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June 26, 2009 2:36 PM

How German History Shapes Obama-Merkel Rift

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Despite the president's claim at a joint appearance this afternoon that "I like Chancellor Merkel a lot," President Barack Obama and Germany's Angela Merkel are widely believed to have a somewhat frosty relationship. The biggest perceived rift between the two? How best to respond to the global financial crisis.

Mr. Obama, of course, has pushed through a massive stimulus package and pressed for greater government spending worldwide to end the recession. Merkel, who helms the largest economy in Europe, has resisted such spending; her government has passed only a pair of small stimulus packages in response to the economic crisis.

One reason for the two leaders' different philosophies is ideological: Merkel is a center-right politician who has argued against bank bailouts in Europe. But German history is also a factor. Under the German parliamentary governmental system known as the Weimar Republic, Germans faced hyperinflation in the 1920s that destroyed savings and drove many people into poverty. Here's one (fictionalized) account of what it was like:
The price increases began to be dizzying. Menus in cafes could not be revised quickly enough. A student at Freiburg University ordered a cup of coffee at a cafe. The price on the menu was 5,000 Marks. He had two cups. When the bill came, it was for 14,000 Marks. "If you want to save money," he was told, "and you want two cups of coffee, you should order them both at the same time."
The Weimar Republic stayed in power in Germany for another decade, but the period of hyperinflation is considered a significant factor in the emergence of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party – the Nazis.

Germans are thus particularly attuned to the dangers of inflation – and particularly wary of fiscal policy that they fear could bring it about.

"We learned from the worldwide economic crisis of the 1920s that an economic crisis can result in an incredible threat for all of society," Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told Der Spiegel magazine, as the Washington Post reported last year. "The consequences of that depression was Adolf Hitler and, indirectly, World War II and Auschwitz."
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by ibsteve2u July 2, 2009 4:45 PM EDT
"...but the period of hyperinflation is considered a significant factor in the emergence of the National Socialist German Workers? Party ? the Nazis. Germans are thus particularly attuned to the dangers of inflation ? and particularly wary of fiscal policy that they fear could bring it about."

Net-net, however, method doesn't matter: Fanaticism takes root when the masses see no future in their current form of government.

I submit that the greed of the Republicans poses as big a threat to democracy in America as the Weimar Republic faced as a consequence of their own policies.

The Republicans attempted to satiate their greed with their policies of "trickle-down" economics, inequitable free trade, and an energy policy that reflected the protection of Big Oil's profits rather than the national interest - all of which served to divert masses of dollars into either their own holdings or out of the country.

The functional result has been three decades of attacks on America's working poor and middle class, the consequences of which can easily seen in our inequality curve's movement back to the same shape it held in 1929.

Democracies are susceptible to excessive greed on the part of the few because that greed brings inequality and the slipping away of the hope for a better future; that is an oft repeated lesson throughout human history. Sadly, another lesson of history is that it is the masses who inevitably "enjoy" the bulk of the consequences of that greed.

That is what I hope of Obama - that he do his best to shield America's masses from the consequences of the greed of the few - that few who control the Republican Party.

Oh, how I despise the right for what they have done to my country, for they have placed it at risk. Democracies are born through common agreement - but they die from common disappointment.
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by thomas.wingenfeld--2008 July 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT
There might be another point: Merkel grew up in the Eastern part of Germany, the German Democratic Republic which had to surrender to the Western Republic of Germany because of bankruptcy. All Germans still pay the bill for this history and don't want to add another huge deficit on top of it. It needed and still needs a lot of time and money to work yourself out of a situation where 18 million people without earnings, without any funds, with old fashioned infrastructure etc. need to be integrated almost immediatelly.
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by keystonebull June 28, 2009 4:54 PM EDT
I thought that Obama was very popular in Europe. I really felt that way until I talked to some people from England that traveled Europe. They have been visiting relatives in Pittsburgh and they said Obama was a laughing stock in Europe, that the people in general just made fun of him. Knowing these people, I believe that to be true.
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by keystonebull June 28, 2009 4:53 PM EDT
I thought that Obama was very popular in Europe. I really felt that way until I talked to some people from England that traveled Europe. They have been visiting relatives in Pittsburgh and they said Obama was a laughing stock in Europe, that the people in general just made fun of him. Knowing these people, I believe that to be true.
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by Aldymac June 27, 2009 5:35 PM EDT
Ever wonder why those who got their mortgages bailed out never got the deed to their homes? I believe it is because the govt. wants to get payed for the bailout by the homeowners plus get payed back by taxing the same thing. Then, get payed back by the banks, great idea, ain't it? Three for the price of one, wow, what an economic plan.
The Germans aren't allowing the muslims to have power in their government, they've already had national socialism, whenever there is a muslim takeover they revert to national socialism to organise, then they go to islamic law. So,,, what stage are we at under BHO?
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by uswarrior June 27, 2009 1:31 PM EDT
Ms Merkel and crew have it right. If you want to know what to do, study history. Why the heck have we rewarded CEO's who have run their businesses into the ground either through criminal behaviour, incompetence, or, at best, inability to compete? What future is there in artificially extending the life of corporations that have not been able to survive on their own? None. Billions of tax dollars that should have gone into rebuilding roads, bridges and schools have instead went into the pockets of vampiric business leaders and corrupt politicians. Bail-out money should have went to individuals for re-training for new careers. It should have been allocated to retirement funds and unemployment insurance accounts that faltered. We could have employed millions by letting-out contracts to rebuild our transportation infrastructure. How many of you know of a road that needs to be resurfaced or widened? Why didn't the bail-out money go towards empowering new companies who want to build way-too-needed mass transit systems? Our National leaders in business and politics need to be fired. Let banks, markets and corporations who can't survive on their own efforts die. New growth will replace them and flourish. Its happened before and the new industries that popped-up brought our Nation greatly increased prosperity.
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by retirevet June 27, 2009 4:15 AM EDT
When you idiots on the right go away, 7 mos ago we came close to not having a country, now someone is suppose to listen to you fools. You idiots just need shut up and go and hang out with that idiot president you had for the last 8 years. And we will never forget what that fool tried to do this great country, and things we are still trying to fix. Do you remember the last idiot BUSH who screw thing up, well a dem had to fix that. So go away and shut up d7767w.
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by burneb June 27, 2009 2:50 AM EDT
How about a comment that actually relates to the topic of this article?

We should expect Germany to take a less aggressive approach to battling the global recession. Merkel inherited a huge trade SURPLUS and serious banking and credit crisis. Obama inherited a gargantuan trade DEFICIT and nearly overwhelming banking and credit crisis.

Germany already has a well-established and respected national health care system, and a reasonably up-to-date national infrastructure. We are some 2-3 trillion dollars behind in maintenance and upgrades on roads, dams, levees, landfills, and other civil engineering projects. Their needs and incentives for related stimulus spending are much less.

Still, the hyperinflation of the Weimar era is highly unlikely for either Germany or the U.S., and Merkel's political conservatism may earn them a "lost decade" like Japan's. Remember when Japan seemed to be doing so much better than the U.S.?
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by krotec54 June 27, 2009 1:01 AM EDT
0bama is living in a bubble and must learn to accept and embrace people who are "different" from him if he is to make headway in politics on the global scale.
Not only do I dislike him intensely, but also I do believe that he does not have the knowledge to be an effective leader...just another (empty) talking head.
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by pete_in_az June 29, 2009 1:32 AM EDT
My guess is you don't like black people.
by libtoad June 26, 2009 6:48 PM EDT
Did Obummer "bow" to Merkel when they first met?
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by ubrew12 June 27, 2009 12:01 AM EDT
No. In the Bush tradition, he gave her a hickey.
by trapbreaking June 26, 2009 6:04 PM EDT
Obama has a rift with Israel, with Germany, and with France. Seems the only heads of state he can get along with are Muslims. Wonder why?
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by libtoad June 26, 2009 6:49 PM EDT
NTM England - Obummer is the Manchurian candidate bent on completely "CHANGING" the USA...
by vistavermin1 June 26, 2009 7:45 PM EDT
Hey wait a second Obama gets along with Chavez and Castro. Of course they are Marxist..

Oh my God we have a Marxist Muslim..
by ToolMangler1 June 26, 2009 9:08 PM EDT
He sure isn't getting along with Irans leaders (muslim) now is he?????
You Repugs need to do everything you can to bring down a Dem, "Wonder why??"
by speakinup22 June 28, 2009 1:48 PM EDT
Interesting observation.
by oftencensord June 26, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
History? Like:
The German intellectualism that fled Europe during WW2 and established itself in America, which lifted the US into world domination... those guys are dead and dying, and are not being replaced here. Whereas in Germany, the educational and social discipline has been rebuilt, and likely to produce the next generation of genius. America has prioritized giving higher education opportunity to the dis-advantaged, and now spends most of its time and resources on dumbing down the masses, taxing the capable into poverty, and making a foolish media spectacle of its leadership !

Yeah, I can see how Angela Merkel would not follow Obama, or the USA down the path of stupidity.
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by vielmann June 26, 2009 5:28 PM EDT
When are you liberal idiots going to stop blaming Bush for what Obumba is doing? the Banks are recovering because of the Bush stimulus package. The Obumba package has not even been spent, two weeks ago only 48 billion of the 787 billion he just had to get approved or the world would collapse.

Everyone talks about the Bush deficit, when only a 600+ billion deficit was incurred from George Washington to Bush and Obumba wants to quadruple that so don't talk about Bush and the deficit.

When are you people going to wake up to what this man wants to do to this country?
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When are you Bush worshipers going to realize that Obama didn't cause this depression by becoming president? When you realize that, then we can get on with the future.
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by apple2pie June 26, 2009 5:16 PM EDT
It sounds like Angela is waiting for a Merkel (play on miracle). LOL
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by USSAmerikan June 26, 2009 5:05 PM EDT
ubrew: I could not agree with you more. The Russians, subject matter experts on the ravages of uncontrolled left wing tendencies, are comparing us to the Weimar republic and we seem to be heading in that direction at a dizzying pace... Some will say it is all part of a Communist conspiracy... I guess time will tell.
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by Jim1900 June 26, 2009 4:59 PM EDT
We can't fund the Neocons' fantasies any more. We are spending more on defense than at the height of the Cold War. For what? To let Bin Laden escape and let the North Koreans build nukes.
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by libtoad June 26, 2009 5:03 PM EDT
!Viva Rev Wright and Gdamn America!
by speakinup22 June 28, 2009 1:46 PM EDT
So just HOW WOULD YOU take care of North Korea if it hadn't been for that military spending, eh jimmy'm boy ?

Vote "Present" ?
by zonkzilla June 26, 2009 4:39 PM EDT
Now she knows how Hitler felt when Jesse Owens beat all of Hitler's "super race athletes in the Olympics. Here she is next to the most popular US President since Reagan, and he is an African American. KARMA!
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by libtoad June 26, 2009 5:00 PM EDT
Dumbest post of the day - see above!
by vistavermin1 June 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT
Set new standards for dumbness...
by ubrew12 June 26, 2009 3:12 PM EDT
Today, WE are the Weimar Republic, and the risk of hyperinflation is very real. However, one should also blame Bush and the Republicans for handing Obama a government in DEEP, DEEP debt at a time when the economy was humming along (compared to today). Most economists believe that the proper time for a government to take on debt is precisely at THIS time in the economic fortunes, to keep 10% unemployment from turning into horrific 30% unemployment.
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by ubrew12 June 26, 2009 11:54 PM EDT
Bush doubled the debt, taking to $11 trillion, BEFORE the reins were handed off to Obama. And most of that was added while the economy was doing relatively well. Yet, he handed Obama an economy in free-fall.

Quit confusing deficit with debt, it shows once again how juvenile you guys on the right are.
by retirevet June 27, 2009 4:19 AM EDT
When you idiots on the right go away, 7 mos ago we came close to not having a country, now someone is suppose to listen to you fools. You idiots just need shut up and go and hang out with that idiot president you had for the last 8 years. And we will never forget what that fool tried to do this great country, and things we are still trying to fix. Do you remember the last idiot BUSH who screw thing up, well a dem had to fix that. So go away and shut up d7767w.
by McHineguy June 26, 2009 3:11 PM EDT
At least they understand that we are doing the wrong thing. Hitler gave great speeches too.
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by erb0087 June 26, 2009 4:27 PM EDT
Hitler's speaking style couldn't be more unlike that of Barack Obama.

Obama is always cool and reasonable, professorial in tone.

Hitler screamed and practically foamed at the mouth.

A study in contrasts: Two short samples.

Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otA7tjinFX4

Hitler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAUPt9SX2qk

Couldn't possibly be more unlike. Poles apart.
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