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May 12, 2009 3:40 PM

Senate Considers Federal Tax On Soda

(AP)
The Senate Finance Committee today is hearing proposals on how to pay for President Obama's proposed universal health care plan, which is expected to cost more than $1 trillion. Among the proposals, as Consumer Affairs reports: A three-cent tax on sodas as well as other sugary drinks, including energy and sports drinks like Gatorade. Diet sodas would be exempt.

"While many factors promote weight gain, soft drinks are the only food or beverage that has been shown to increase the risk of overweight and obesity, which, in turn, increase the risk of diabetes, stroke, and many other health problems," Michael Jacobson of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, which is pushing the idea, said in his testimony. "Soft drinks are nutritionally worthless…[and] are directly related to weight gain, partly because beverages are more conducive to weight gain than solid foods."

According to Jacobson, "Beverage companies market more than 14 billion gallons of calorie-laden soft drinks annually. That is equivalent to about 506 12-oz. servings per year, or 1.4 servings per day, for every man, woman, and child."

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He argued that each penny of tax on a 12 ounce drink would raise $1.5 billion annually and lower consumption roughly one percent, improving overall health. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that a three-cent tax would generate $24 billion over the next four years.

Such a tax might well be considered a "sin tax" similar to the taxes levied on cigarettes, which are extremely high compared to most other consumer products. Jacobson also wants the taxes on alcohol raised -- he argues that doing so will "compensate society for the costs of alcohol abuse and alcoholism and to marginally reduce problem drinking." The argument echoes the idea of cigarette taxes helping pay for health care costs associated with smoking.

In his testimony, Jacobson also called for a ban on artificial trans fat and a reduction in sodium levels in food.

(AP Photo/Tim Roske, File)
Any soda tax a proposal is unlikely to pass easily, as New York Governor David Paterson well knows. Paterson's proposed 18-percent tax on soft drinks died amid pressure from the industry and resistance among New Yorkers who didn't want to pay more for soda.

It would also, it should be noted, only pay for a tiny portion of the health care overhaul.

Susan Neely of the American Beverage Association, which represents Coca-Cola Co., PepsiCo Inc. and others, told the Wall Street Journal that the tax would hit poor Americans hardest and would not lower consumption.

"Taxes are not going to teach our children how to have a healthy lifestyle," she said. Neely said the industry backs programs to lower consumption of sugary drinks in schools.
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by maraltay October 20, 2009 8:20 AM EDT
Soda doesn't make people fat. If you don't have underlying medical problems that cause weight gain, then you did it to yourself. The thing is the dems need to find a way for us to pay off all the debt they have gotten us into since capturing the majority in 2006, along with the war debt. They will eventually increase income taxes, but only if pelosi, and reids little hand puppet wins the next election too. They will push all kind of taxes in order to show progress on the deficit, to justify trying to raise their own salaries. Like I said before, it's not about healthcare. It's not about us. It's all about their wallets. That's a democrat, and we don't need them. Time to rebuild our government without them. You can't have one party running it all. It's time Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians ran a democrat free government. That is the only way to fix our healthcare, and our economy.
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by barry1968 October 19, 2009 7:15 PM EDT
People are so stupid. Did they think it would end with cigarettes. Come on. The writing was on the wall. But since it did not affect them, they voted yes. Ohhh well. Let the government into your house and they will climb in your bed. Maybe next time you'll think before you vote to cost some else money just because you don't agree with what they do. Have fun paying them new taxes. I've been paying the extra 8 dollars a carton for cigs ever since you all voted on it. Have a great day.
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by Susanvanzandt October 17, 2009 4:40 PM EDT
I am in favor of taxing soda and very aware that the ads I'm seeing on t.v. are from the soft drink producers. There are taxes on cigarettes and alcohol and it is becoming clear that soft drinks are a major cause of the obesity seen in young people. I'm also in favor of bringing back gym classes and recess for youngsters.
Thank you for your time.
Susan Kline
Parkville, MD
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by barry1968 October 19, 2009 7:17 PM EDT
which of your vices can we tax. Please let me know so I can suggest it to the tax man.
by chrish1966 October 17, 2009 1:41 AM EDT
I saw this one coming! The soda tax, along with tobacco is just the beginning my friends! For all of you who prolote a nationwide healthcare system, stand by, you will pay throught the nose for it. I have visited countries that have nationally funded healthcare and this is how they pay for it! For instance, in Norway five years ago, a large pizza and a pitcher of beer set me and a friend back 55 U.S.Dollars!! Why? Thats right, to pay for the healthcare system!!! Still want to take care of the people who do not care to care for themselves?????
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by maraltay October 16, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
Democrats. Here it is. This has less to do with healthcare than you think. First of all healthcare can be fixed. The democrats will not be able to fix it. According to the plan they have now, it may not make it worse, but it wont get any cheaper or better. It's taking so long because we are paying attention, and they can't just pass some obviously phony bill to put money in their own pockets. They are democrats. It isn't about helping us(except in public interviews) it is about lining their own pockets. They promised they would not raise our income taxes, and they haven't. They can't go back on that and win the next election. They are now realizing that they can actually get their hands deeper into our pockets by taxing the things we buy. The soda/healthcare tax is a screen. The next tax they impose will be screened by some other pet project. Minimum wage went up, and as soon as there is any sign of strong economic recovery, and job growth, so will their salaries. Mark my words. It's coming. This is what you get when you have a record number of ignorant, uninformed voters showing up at the polls. Congradulations due to the outcome of our Nov. 2008 elections, America is officially The Dumbest Country in the World.
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by haukmeq September 28, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
Why not tax hamburgers and fries from fast-food chains instead?
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by ashaindra September 20, 2009 9:50 PM EDT
rum, tobacco and sugar, the government's favorite industries to tax, at least according to Adam Smith (Wealth of the Nation).

sure they're not necessities (well maybe sugar but the issue now is soda), but does that make it okay to directly influence our personal choice in consumption? no.

but obesity is still a problem.

anyway, thought i'd share this great video that encapsulates a lot of the differing points on the issue:

http://www.newsy.com/videos/hard_talk_on_soft_drinks
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by madvoiper September 19, 2009 8:54 PM EDT
Make it fair to all. Put the same tax on Beer...who wants to see flabby beer guts. At least a six pack of coke wont cause an accident on our highways. Beer...fat and drunk. I would rather have the soda addicts.
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by barry1968 October 19, 2009 7:21 PM EDT
you must be stupid. Beer and any other alcohol has been heavily taxed for years. Glad to see it finally affect you.
by RasterMasterOne September 18, 2009 2:50 PM EDT
Not sure where ya live but we do pay taxes on booze! State and Fed tax. What the heck happens with that $$. I'll tell ya, go's to some politicians pet projects. Unless you buy it on a military base or Indian reservation, then no tax, unless they changed that over night behind closed doors.
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by RasterMasterOne September 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT
This was attempted in CA during the 80?s and it did not work, it was the junk food tax. What ever these people tax, I won?t buy it; I?ll go back to my roots and make own. You taxed beer so I make my own; you taxed wine, so I make my own. Tax tea, I?ll grow my own. The president has found the problem as he stated in his speech. Corruption, waist and fraud! It is not just in health care, it?s every where you find the government doing business. So now that he has identified the problem go fix it!!!!

Just think out side the box. Look at any thing the gov. has come up with is in failure. Social Security, Medicare, Medical, Fredimac, Fanimae do need to go on?

Heck I thought seat belts and helmets was to fix all the health care problems, that?s what we were told back when the made these laws.
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by J6P_is_Clueless September 18, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
DO THE SODA TAX... Make it .20c per 16 oz...

People want Health Care but don't want to pay for it.
Just let the "Guvmt" pay for it....

Why should I pay more for my health care just b/c you Blubber Guts and Lard ***** want to suck up on sodas, stuff your faces with Food Stamp Pizza, & smoke ??

Pay your own damn freight like most responsible people.
Get your Welfare Ass off my back.
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by J6P_is_Clueless September 18, 2009 11:58 AM EDT
Soda Tax, Go for it... As a "Ex" smoker I was also in favor of the increased tobacco taxes.
(Their Bagmen (Lobbyist) couldn't kill the taxes.)
.03c ?? How about .20c per 16oz ?? Get serious with it.
Maybe the soda tax could replace that insane $3800.00 tax proposed by Sen Max Baucus if you have "too much" health ins. How did that Dim Wad come up with that one ??
Maybe he cut a deal for the $30.Mill for 2 MT/Canada border crossings where <25 vehicles per day cross & the stations are closed at night ?? (Open Borders.)

Don't be confused or mislead by the PepsiCo shills. PepsiCo can well stand the additional soda tax with all the $$ they make from getting Pizza approved for Food Stamps.
Hey, How about killing Food Stamps for Pizza ? There's some bucks...
(I can just hear the stampede of Bagmen (Lobbyist) heading for WA DC now.)
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by leadfoot41 September 17, 2009 10:58 PM EDT
Has our lawmakers nothing to do worth while with there time but to add more stupid taxes for us to endure. What a bunch of IDOTS. And next they will be taxing us for taking a dump!!! Get real you IDOTS.
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by cathyherrera September 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT
The government should not be able to tell us that we can't have sugar. It is our right and why is that every one has to be thin? I see and know some people that are so thin that they can't find clothes to fit them but so does the heavy person. I have the right to eat and drink what I want and NOBODY including the President has a right to tell me. I served in the US Marines for my country but I am not going to put up with a stupid President and his followers. Taxing things is not going to help fight obesity. Federal government or state government providing health care (also telling you what you can do or have done) is not the answer either. Why don't the President and his cabinet, senators, state reps and local governors, mayors and alike cut their pay down to what I've lived on for the past year and see what they say. They have made sure that their health care insurance is not messed with and that they still have say on what can be done or have done while we have to take their left overs. Get real. They are nothing but a bunch of idiots and the president is the biggest one. Quit being stupid and do some real thinking about the people and quit taxing things. You thought that by raising the taxes on cigerattes that people would quit smoking; well, did they? A pack is now over 5.00 and people are still buying them. We are going to do what we want to do so quit taxing us poor people to death we are already dead from the previous taxes. And if the president and others think I am saying to much and need to be quiet, guess what I don't have to. Grow up federal and state governments. By the way quit bailing out businesses because all they are doing is paying it to the ceo's or whatever for their bonuses.
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by doorie941 September 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT
now tax soda why not tax beer and booze. drunk drivers on the road every day killing people. not soda drinkers. tax booze
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by doorie941 September 17, 2009 8:58 PM EDT
now tax soda why not tax beer and booze. drunk drivers on the road every day killing people. not soda drinkers. tax booze
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by boottrooper2 September 17, 2009 6:27 PM EDT
I am really tired of the goveermment trying to regulate tax us for what they think is for are own good first it was the seat belt laws then the anti smokining taxes and regulations now its this if i choose to have and unhealthy drink it sould my descion not the governments and who knows for sure whats healthy diet drinks have been linked to cancer and other illnesses this tax is just another cash cow for an ineffectual government that wastes our tax dollars and what will they go after next red meat? this is what happens when the insurance lobby controls he govrernment instead of the people
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by tynedancer September 17, 2009 9:54 AM EDT
They want to tax soda to pay for universal health care? Really? If they are truly concerned about the health of Americans, why don't they offer to have free memberships to the YMCA, or another company. We might be able to exercise more, if it was available for free. What is next? We already pay rediculous prices just for water.
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by dan_j July 29, 2009 5:40 PM EDT
I understand where people are coming from when they say that if you let them tax something like soda that it opens the door for taxes on other products down the road. However, we have to realize that obesity related problems are now one of the biggest if not the biggest health-care issue the government has to spend money on. I hate to be cynical about this, but if the government has to spend more money every year because it's citizens don't know how to take care of themselves and have very poor nutrition which leads to them having health problems involving obesity that the government has to help pay for, you're damn right the government has the right to tax one of the causes of this problem to make their money back.
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by barry1968 October 19, 2009 7:28 PM EDT
If we let them start here. They started with cigarettes and alcohol. People are pissed off now because this affects soccer mom. Glad to see other have to pay. They voted yes on the taxes before and opened the door.
by Honeypie87 July 27, 2009 8:54 PM EDT
Amazing that only the sweetened drinks will be taxed. Anyone getting this??? I can't drink unsweetened or artifically sweetened drinks. And this is supposed to help with weight on healthcare? I have other idea's. Lets put some of congress on scales just like the rest of us its not easy. But they have the funds to pay for it! They're our funds!! think about it!! I'd rather have sugar than the unsweetened chemicals that are crap for most people and more deadly to others than I'd like to tell you about.
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