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April 22, 2009 7:46 PM

Fidel Didn't Really Dash Hopes For Cuba Talks

(CBS)
Fidel Castro is once again demonstrating that he knows how to stir up controversy.

An online essay penned by the former Cuban president Tuesday evening seemed to throw a wrench into the apparent thawing in U.S.-Cuba relations. But some analysts question whether that is really the case.

(CBS)
This screengrab taken from the Cuban government Web site CubaDebate.cu shows the top of former leader Fidel Castro's editorial column, published on April 21, 2009.

It's a "script that has repeated many times before," says Nelson Valdes, a Cuban-American sociologist at the University of New Mexico.

"The United States proposes something. The Cuban government reacts to the proposal and states on what basis it is willing to interact," Valdes says, stressing that, as always, Cuba insisted that in any talks the sovereignty of both countries be respected.
Fidel Castro was just setting the record straight, says Valdes, when he wrote that President Obama had "misinterpreted" the remarks made by his brother, Cuban President Raul Castro.

The media reporting blurred the "nuance and principles" in President Castro's declaration that he was ready to discuss "everything," including human rights, freedom of the press and expression and political prisoners.

That statement set tongues wagging. Now the U.S. government and the foreign press have made it seem as though Cuba is "changing its stance," says Valdes, when in reality "the Cuban position has not changed an inch."

In his latest essay, Fidel Castro noted that his brother's offer to discuss all issues was "a show of courage and confidence in the principles of the revolution."

In other words, Havana is happy to defend its positions on the issues in question, but was not signaling a readiness to make concessions in exchange for better relations with Washington. The former Cuban leader, sidelined by illness in 2006, was clearly put off by Mr. Obama's subsequent call for Cuba to unconditionally release political prisoners and suspend a 10 percent currency exchange fee slapped on the U.S. dollar in 2007.

Earlier this month, the Obama administration lifted restrictions on family visits by Cuban Americans and limits on the amount of financial aid they could send relatives on the island. It's assumed that most of those funds are sent in U.S. dollars, but Cuba's leaders do not welcome the American currency on the island, and not just because of the dollar's falling value.

As part of the application of Washington's economic and trade embargo, the U.S. Federal Reserve went after a Swiss bank for handling U.S. dollars from Cuba. The $100 million fine it imposed in that case discouraged other foreign banks from taking dollars from Cuba, complicating the island’s international trade payments.

Havana hoped the 10 percent surcharge would discourage the circulation of U.S. dollars and that visitors would instead spend Euros, British pounds, Swiss francs and other convertible currencies which can be exchanged for the local currency at the going world rate.

Julia Sweig, Director of Latin American Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, was reluctant to say exactly what Fidel Castro's jumping into the breach at this point meant, but she conceded that it, "muddies the waters a bit... but then, the waters were already muddied."

Everybody has been chiming in, says Sweig, "some with more conciliatory and more open-ended statements, some with the same old, same old." She stresses the need to look for "substance over rhetoric."

The biggest sticking point for the Cubans is the U.S. economic and trade embargo, and in his essay Fidel Castro chastised Mr. Obama for clinging to it, predicting that that policy would lead him to failure as it did for his ten predecessors.

Castro ended his essay by implying that unless Mr. Obama does something different, Cuba will be treading water with a different U.S. president who will be, "without-doubt less intelligent, promising and admired in the world than Barack Obama."

That reasoning might also explain why the Castro brothers are disappointed in Mr. Obama's decision to not reject the existing parameters in the relationship to encourage change on the island.

Cuba-U.S. relations dramatically worsened during the Bush administration, and there is no way of knowing who will replace him. Therefore, Mr. Obama's leadership was likely seen as a window of opportunity for the aging Castros to bring closure to the five-decade-old dispute between the two neighbors, and to do it on their terms before the mantle of leadership passes to a younger generation.

Raul Castro is also feeling pressure from his public to improve living standards, and an end to the embargo and the opening of two-way trade and travel with the U.S. would go a long way to improving the government's current financial liquidity problems.

But, given the back and forth messages which have come from the Castro brothers, which seem to leave the country's position largely unchanged, many people consider a real breakthrough unlikely in the immediate future.

A frequent visitor to Cuba and the representative of a large U.S. farm group, whose members see the island as an important market for their products, says it was a mistake to think improvements in U.S. Cuba relations were on a fast track.

Asking not to be identified, as his employer has not issued any statement on the latest developments, he explained his perspective on the future of bilateral relations.

"Many years ago, about 1980, I met a Cuban-born businessperson in Venezuela. We became friends and he told me that nothing would change between the U.S. and Cuba until key people (on all sides of the issue) — a whole generation of people, including himself – died," he said.

"That's kind of been a pretty good guide for me and helped ease out the ups and downs of this whole thing."
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by CLoverNYC1 April 24, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
If America is to regain and remain a respected leader in the world, we must have a government that is held accountable by its citizens - a government that takes seriously its sacred oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
Posted by Stuart2560 at 8:13 PM : Apr 23, 2009
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Whoa Bro - you'd better climb down off that lofty soapbox before you pitch off and hurt somebody.

I agree with you in part.

The frank reality is that prosecuting former elected officials for 'war crimes' will only serve to further solidify the global image of America as a fickle nation of rich, pampered whiny cry-babies with the ability to blow up the planet.

We are hated and feared around the world.

Do you really believe President Barack Obama is the anointed messiah who will regain the tarnished image of America by putting Bush and Rice in the slammer?
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by CLoverNYC1 April 24, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
PinocchiObama is still trying to be a real president.

But that's kind of difficult with his Lord Axelrod, the Pelosi camp and the ultraliberal left pullling his strings at every turn.

Cuba has nothing to offer the US (except a few of those vintage 50s automobiles for the Smithsonian and an awfully good cigar).

A prisoner exchange is unlikely. Fidel is a die-hard socialist who is dying hard and making life for the Cuban people very difficult in the process.
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by oldwhiteguy1 April 23, 2009 8:26 PM EDT
If our government would just stop the "holy-er" than thou" approach to the world and its leaders, life would be good!
North Korea, Iran, Iraq,Venezuela, Afghanistan and the rest are trying an age old strategy of "saber rattling". They have something to say. They're trying to get their story heard. They are sovereign countries who don't want to be told how to live...especially by the neighborhood bully.
Obama is correct, to offer to listen.
People all over the world have the same wants and needs that we do. A roof, safety, food and a better life for their children.
In a global economy, we are ALL in this together
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by matrixbattery2 April 23, 2009 4:48 PM EDT
Wishful thinking!.. even Castro knows that you can not waste a good crisis!.. Honk if I am paying your mortgate!

neo
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by Daren072767 April 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT
National Security Archive Update, April 23, 2009

ROBERT F. KENNEDY URGED LIFTING TRAVEL BAN TO CUBA IN '63

Attorney General cited inconsistency "with traditional American liberties"
State Department overruled RFK proposal to withdraw prohibitions on travel

Documents Record First Internal Debate to Lift Ban

http://www.nsarchive.org

Washington, DC, April 23, 2009 - Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy sought
to lift the ban on U.S. citizens traveling to Cuba in December 1963,
according to declassified records re-posted today by the National Security
Archive. In a December 12, 1963, memorandum to Secretary of State Dean Rusk,
Kennedy urged a quick decision "to withdraw the existing regulation
prohibiting such trips."

Kennedy's memo, written less than a month after his brother's assassination
in Dallas, argues that the travel ban imposed by the Kennedy administration
was a violation of American freedoms and impractical in terms of law
enforcement. Among his "principal arguments" for removing the restrictions
on travel to Cuba was that freedom to travel "is more consistent with our
views as a free society and would contrast with such things as the Berlin
Wall and Communist controls on such travel."

This document, and others relating to the first internal debate over lifting
the Cuba travel ban, are quoted in an opinion piece in the Washington Post
today, written by Robert Kennedy's daughter, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend. Her
article argued that President Obama should consider her father's position
and support the Free Travel To Cuba Act that has been introduced in the U.S.
Congress.

Kennedy Townsend's article is available here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/22/AR2009042203088.html

Visit the Archive's Web site for more information:

http://www.nsarchive.org
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by pdchapin April 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT
Fidel and Raul are playing good cop-bad cop with President Obama while the rest of the world laughs at America.

Why are we trying to sing kumbaya with the Fidel anyways? What's in it for us?
Posted by CLoverNYC1 at 10:13 AM : Apr 23, 2009

The world is trilled that Obama seems to by trying to improve relations with Cuba. The Cuban government is losing this exchange as it looks either confused or intransigent. In the end, however, they don't care and so far an improved image in the world hasn't really gotten the US anything. We need conservatives to increase their attacks on Obama so the rest of the world will recognize that they have to give him something or they could end up with a Bush clone in the future.

What's in it for us? Potential market for US goods if nothing else. And we may be able to get some civil rights concessions from the Cubans, although I sure wouldn't bank on that.
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by CLoverNYC1 April 23, 2009 1:13 PM EDT
Fidel and Raul are playing good cop-bad cop with President Obama while the rest of the world laughs at America.

Why are we trying to sing kumbaya with the Fidel anyways? What's in it for us?
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by raoulz April 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT
no problem can be solved until fully understood,The United States has a crazy economic embargo against the peoples of Cuba for almost 50 years, because it says that Cuba has a comunist government....but it does not give the same status to China who is by large the biggest comunst nation in the world. truly no one can understand the criteria of the US govermentm because it is not uniform or in harmony with reality..to continue thisd economic embargo against this small island and it´s people is a cowarly act that goes against the most basic principles of justice.
Who cares what Castro thinks,,,,I care about the peoples of Cubam mothers and children with no resources and hungry.
this is the time for an american president to make the difference on this crazy policy against the peoples of Cuba.
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by thgdriver April 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT
I'll say one thing for those Cubans, they sure know how to keep those old cars in operation. Every time I see news out of Cuba there's plenty of 1950's style Chevrolet's, Fords, Chrysler's, Studebaker's, Packard's, etc.

Could it be the big three auto makers here are afraid of their know how? The big three aren't selling any new cars now, If those Cubans get here it's surly over for GM. LOL!
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by zolaines April 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT
It is not the first time that Castro avoids scrutiny. During the eighties he rejected European aid because he had to make concessions in human rights.

Castro has eliminated countless numbers of people who could have talked about the genocide he committed against his own people. Cuban students of mine put the number in the hundred of thousands and they think is a a conservative number.

The famous "paredones" from 1959 to 1966. Remember, this a guy who had Cuba controlled by the Soviets and used their spying methods, fear methods to silence his own people. How is that for high treason?
I do not understand the fascination with Fidel or Guevara. Guevara left a trail of terror and blood whenever he stepped in Latinamerica and brought children into guerrilla warfare. He was no dreamer or idealist.

Chavez is the continuation of Castro with money. Chavez poorly educated and brainwashed in Cuba, already an oppressor of his own people. Cubans have infiltrated all the army and police bodies of Venezuela. Hey, don't you think is that a case of treason?

He pays a company here in USA (Washington DC) to clean his name and do propaganda in the American media, cheap heating oil through Joe Kennedy?. It is a blunt attempt to influence American public opinion. This company keeps track of every article that denounces Chavez' involvement with drug trafficking or the colombian guerrilla and prepares ad hoc answers that are sent to newspapers by people in their pay-rolls.

Look at his friends, Mugabe, Ahmadijenad, Ortega, Evo Morales, not the people you want to have next door.

It is sad to say tthe least, when American actors and politicians who earn their living in dollars and live with the full benefit of civil rights and freedom, go to Venezuela and Cuba and legitimize with their hand shakes and smiles the bloody horror these dictators have imposed on their countries. They would not live a week over there.

Castro wants to erase the past of torture, killing, terrorism, and repression that has allowed him to be in power for 50 years, (and to have a huge checking account in the process). He will never allow the truth about his actions and his rotten regime to go public. His latest response was to be expected.

Before you embrace the whole latin Left, (but safely, from here) talk to the Cubans and Venezuelans who have lost all their individual rights and freedom. And talking as a supportera and admirer of the Castros and Chavezes of this world does not make you an intellectual. Be honest, get truly educated before you wear a Che Guevara T-shirt, for us is more than a slap in the face. You have no idea how much we have lost.
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by thgdriver April 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT
I was surprised Castro is still alive, are we sure he /it's not a clone?

Castro does not want to normalize relations because he would lose an excuse he has used on his people for years. He calls our embargo a blockade and tells his people it's all our fault they are hungry and dirt poor leaving himself and communism off the hook. We are the only country not doing business with Cuba as far as I know.
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by Daren072767 April 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT
I first visited Cuba in 1996 as a young law student as part of a comparative law study contrasting "fundamental rights" between the USA and Cuba.

I returned to Cuba five times in 2008 and three times this year. I will continue to visit the island for three reasons: (1) I am free, and notwithstanding the existing travel restrictions affecting non-Cuban-Americans, I will continue to exercise my right to travel (?Freedom of movement is the very essence of our free society?Once the right to travel is curtailed, all other rights suffer?The right to know, to converse with others, to consult with them, to observe social, physical, political, and
other phenomena abroad as well as at home gives meaning and substance to freedom of expression and freedom of the press.? ? Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, 1964); (2) I am opposed to violations of the Equal Protection Clause of the US Constitution, that is, it is not constitutional to allow some Americans to travel and send money while restricting other Americans from doing the same; and (3) lastly, but more importantly, I love the Cuban people, their culture and the intelligence.

With this said, Cuba has problems (racism, the dual currency, lack of resources and political leaders who apparently have a greater interest in the status quo than real change). Not unlike the Miami Cubans who profit from the status quo, and US politicians who, out-of-fear of political fall-out, refuse to buck the mafia.

With that said too, many Cubans desire real change that will improve their material lives. They do desire more liberty as well. And, they love their country, there is no doubt about this. They doubt real change will come soon, ... they reply to my hope, "they have heard all this before, .... nothing will change soon."

It is sad; they have a deep affection for America and its people. This is not to say they do not agree with our politics, but it is to say that they have the ability to distinguish the American leadership from the American people.

For those of you who have not traveled to Cuba, it is a lovely Island. There is very little crime. The people are not starving and they are indeed well educated. This is not to say they are not poor, certainly they are. But this Island and its people do not compare at all to other third world countries where there exists real hunger, real poverty, real neglect. This is not Cuba.

I predict change will occur within one year, but I have always been a half full type of fella.
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by presjfk April 23, 2009 11:09 AM EDT
it doesn't mater what Castro does, we have it in our power to undermine the communist party's position by unilaterally lifting the embargo. The embargo has been a source of strength for the communists and we should not allow this.

The idea that the embargo weakens the communists and strengthens the opposition is a fallicy and has been proven a lie for decades.

We are doing business with China and we should do business with Cuba. When the American tourists flood the country, some of our goods, their goods here in the USA, the dependency that such exchange breeds will bring change we have been wanting and Cubans desperately need for all these years.
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by legacyabq April 23, 2009 10:49 AM EDT
Posted by ohgrowup at 6:18 AM

LOL!!
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by excoachken April 23, 2009 10:41 AM EDT
Well, the ball is in Fidel's jai lai court for now.
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by erasmus111 April 23, 2009 10:36 AM EDT
Posted by Rowdy106 at 5:53 AM : Apr 23, 2009

You are so filled with hate and negativity that you dont even make sense anymore.

I just really need to ignore your posts from now on.
Posted by fedup12 at 6:34 AM : Apr 23, 2009

I've been trying to figure out why anyone reads them in the first place.
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by fedup12 April 23, 2009 9:34 AM EDT
Posted by Rowdy106 at 5:53 AM : Apr 23, 2009

You are so filled with hate and negativity that you dont even make sense anymore.

I just really need to ignore your posts from now on.
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by ohgrowup April 23, 2009 9:18 AM EDT
Fidel's best friend

Fidel: Raul, that's another fine mess you gotten us into!

Raul: I only wanted to be friends with Barack, that's all.

Fidel: Our clones are almost ready to take over and you befriend the enemy?

Raul: I have had a change of heart my brother. We have done all we can to protect and nurture Cuba and I think that it is time to let go.

Fidel: That's it, I am canceling your clone Raul.

Raul: I have already taken the liberty of canceling both our clones Fidel.

Fidel: What?

Raul: We can't live forever Fidel. And with the money we saved I have cloned your beloved friend of many years.

Fidel: Not Dingo!

Raul: It certainly is not Che! Call him!

Fidel: Dingo! Dingo! Come here boy!

Dingo: Ruff!!!

Fidel: Oh thank you Raul, I love you!

Raul: I love you too brother! Sniff!

Dingo: Ruff! Ruff! Ruff!
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by sleepyric April 23, 2009 9:08 AM EDT
patience...just wait until the old fart dies. Hey Fidel,,,tick tock,,,tick tock.....
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by petesis April 23, 2009 9:05 AM EDT
I read Fidels letter/blog and it seemed like he was negotiating already.
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