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March 13, 2009 4:53 PM

If China Stops Lending Us Money, Look Out

(AP Photo/Greg Baker)

Caption: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, who is "worried" about U.S. debt


If your boss slashes your pay, if you have no savings because you spent more than you earned for many years, and if your creditors are threatening to cut off your credit cards and home equity loan, what happens?

The answer, of course, is that you're in serious trouble. And this could be the situation for the U.S. government -- which is facing lower income tax receipts and ballooning deficits -- if China loses its appetite for extending more and more loans by buying U.S. Treasury securities.

China is the single largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasurys. The money it lends to the Feds finances our significant budget deficits. (Americans have been paying about $450 billion a year in interest on the national credit card; without that debt to pay off, personal income taxes could be almost 40 percent lower.)

But in Beijing on Friday, Premier Wen Jiabao told reporters that he was worried about the U.S. becoming something of a, well, deadbeat. "We have made a huge amount of loans to the United States. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I'm a little bit worried," Wen said. "I would like to call on the United States to honor its words, stay a credible nation and ensure the safety of Chinese assets."

What China's premier may be worried about is the possibility of the U.S. running up so much debt -- the projected 2009 deficit is $1.75 trillion -- that it may not be able or willing to pay it back without devaluing the currency. (If that happens, hello, inflation!)

For its part, the White House tried to reassure its Chinese creditors. Spokesman Robert Gibbs said Friday afternoon: "There's no safer investment in the world than in the United States."

It's unlikely that China would dump its Treasurys; for one thing, substantial sales would depress prices of the rest of its portfolio. The Wall Street Journal suggests that the gold market isn't large enough to represent a viable option, and "it's not clear, meanwhile, that euro, or yen-denominated debt is any safer, more liquid, or profitable than U.S. debt -- key criteria for China's leadership."

But China could reduce or halt future purchases. A less ravenous appetite for Treasurys is already evident: a New York Times article in January was titled: "China Losing Taste for Debt From U.S." One reason for fewer purchases would be diversification. Another would be to divert money toward its own 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) stimulus package.

Reduced demand for Treasurys would drive up U.S. interest rates, probably pushing down home prices even more than they've already fallen, and also could start a run on the dollar.

This is why Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pleaded with the Chinese government last month to keep the loans flowing to Washington, D.C. ("So by continuing to support American Treasury instruments, the Chinese are recognizing our interconnection.")

This is also why, at least in part, U.S. taxpayer dollars were used to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac last year. A Business Week article says that foreign bankers were worried, especially China, which owned around $376 billion of Fannie and Freddie debt. "Treasury saw foreign governments getting the willies," a Senate aide told the magazine.

Which makes the recent flap between a U.S. Navy surveillance ship and three Chinese ships (including two fishing vessels) in the South China Sea more inexplicable than usual. Given their intertwined economies, both countries need each other more than usual right now.
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by mjohnsona2 May 8, 2009 8:22 AM EDT
I think America is in for harder times than we have now. I speak my words with hopes that I am wrong, but reading the above article including many other articles on the economic future of our country make me conclude that America's best days are gone.

We as people failed to hold our government accountable to the ideas that the founding fathers espoused. I often read George Washington's Farewell Address. The point of his address, in my opinion, served as a future message to future generations on some of the things to avoid.

The idea that bothers me is concept of foreign debt. America is enslaved because of our foreign debt, and the inability to pay off its debts force our country into a place that we are no longer the leaders of the free world. Our foreign debt has forced us to surrender jobs to outsourcing, forced us to shift from a manufacturing society to a consumer society, and forced us to become soft materialistic people who lack the backbone and fortitude to survive difficult times.

My intent is not to condemn our country rather I hope to sound the alarms of understanding because our country can not go on with its future path for forever.

We MUST START BY saving and start paying off our debt NOW.

I think the strength of our country can be determined by its morality and spiritual values and how it handles money. Please pray for our country.
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by Professor2U May 2, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
Stupid Bush should be sent to Guantanamo!!! Send him a message.
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by wcreader March 17, 2009 12:52 AM EDT
Re-send: For US, working together with countries like China will allow fast recovery of the world economy; enable many men and working women, many head of the house to earn enough income to feed their family. We often heard from western media on how many we import from China, yet we seldom hear, our media in reporting how much, yet it is very true that, China has brought many US products. It is very sad. For win-win, the key is to working together with respect. Thus, it is important for a few politician, many bias local media, and the hawk team from the US military to do stop those unreal, demonize negative reporting soling aiming at just to make political attack for the competitors; to stop hawk spying act that has post a real national threat to other country; Instead to work together and lead other country to work for the common well of all.
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by wcreader March 17, 2009 12:48 AM EDT
For US, working together with countries like China will allow fast recovery of the world economy; enable many men and working women, many head of the house to earn enough income to feed their family. We often heard from western media on how many we import from China, yet we seldom hear, our media in reporting how much, yet it is very true that, China has brought many US products. It is very sad. For win-win, The key is to working together with response. Thus, it is important for a few politician, many bias local media, and the hawk team from the US military to do stop those unreal, demonize negative reporting soling aiming at just to make political attack for the competitors; to stop hawk spying act that has post a real national threat to other country; Instead to work together and lead other country to work for the common well of all.
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by TPS2 March 15, 2009 3:21 PM EDT
Whose bright idea was it to allow this incredible trade imbalance with China and allow it to mushroom out of control for so long, this had to be allowed under Republican Bush who was President for 8 years! Another Bush financial disaster than will be blamed on Obama who has only 55 days in office.
by cbsantispin

Last fall the United States signed the agreement to bring China into the WTO, on terms that will open its market to American products and investment. When China concludes similar agreements with other countries, it will join the WTO. But for us to benefit from that we must first grant it permanent normal trade relations (PNTR) - the same arrangement we have given other countries in the WTO. I submitted legislation to Congress to do that, and I again urge Congress to approve it as soon as possible.
DLC | Blueprint Magazine | June 1, 2000
America's Stake in China
By President Bill Clinton

Right you are Chucko, it was Bush!
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by wardoglrs March 15, 2009 2:27 PM EDT
The best action for the United States and the rest of the world would be a massive act of peaceful civil disobedience. Stop paying mortgages. Stop paying credit card bills and student loans. It's over. The money you spend now will be money that you wish you had saved (or converted into land, gold, or something of value) Stop paying taxes. And don't give back your keys. Take your homes back and stop funding the government. Take care of yourselves. Do what you have to do to survive because this is your right as a human being. You are not responsible for Wall Street. You are not responsible for any of this. It's collapsing. Don't let them control the outcome. Don't give away your power. Don't give away what few resources you have left to those who created this.
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by cbsantispin March 15, 2009 2:37 AM EDT
Whose bright idea was it to allow this incredible trade imbalance with China and allow it to mushroom out of control for so long, this had to be allowed under Republican Bush who was President for 8 years! Another Bush financial disaster than will be blamed on Obama who has only 55 days in office.
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by SomeRandomDude March 14, 2009 6:37 PM EDT
We don't want China to quit lending! We don't want to not pay the debt!

Our economy is very unstable at the moment, and we need all the capital we can get. If we don't pay the debt, no one will make business transactions with the USA, the Euro will replace the dollar as the world currency, and we WILL have a depression. Half our jobs are working under a foreign company, or making goods to be used by foreigners.

What I would like to know is, how we are going to pay this debt? i would like an article on this topic, or maybe an Obama speech. I bet he won't talk about it until immediately after he gets elected a second time.
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by bumpedoff March 14, 2009 6:25 PM EDT
China would love to put obama in the trick bag
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by March 14, 2009 4:48 PM EDT
Hey 74blaster, I don't think you get it. Bush was too liberal and that bothers conservatives. He ran up the debt by signing all kinds of spending bill that the liberal republican party co-sponsored.

Now, we have Obama that is even more liberal. So all the conservitive movement gets when they demand fiscal responsibility is an answer that justifies Obamas spending spree by saying bush started it. Liberals justify Obamas spending spree by saying that bush went on a spending spree first.

Its like two children pointing the finger saying I just did it becuase he started it.

Get it. Obama and the dems cannot say that its ok to borrow our future away because George Bush did it first.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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by gohan31 March 14, 2009 1:14 PM EDT
I wish the world the best! We just can't get along with each other.
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by the74blaster March 14, 2009 12:51 PM EDT
Don't worry because communist dictator Obama will keep printing and spending it because he's a tax and spend liberal. Look at what the liberals did to California...now they're just taking it on the national level.
Posted by dongo3 at 3:09 AM : Mar 14, 2009

This is a bit hippocritical. Under your hero Bush thepublic debt doubled in 8 years, the economic situation crumpled to where bailouts were needed to keep our country from sliding into a depression and we wasted 3 trillion in Iraq. Now your have the gall to throw rocks at Obama for trying to stimulate the economy with government spending!

You speak with a double standard! I suppose though you would have no issues with the spending if McCain had won!

Perhaps you should stop with the sour grapes attitude and realize that listening to you blowhards whine about Obama is comical.

In fact it is sad that Obama has done more good for our country in 6 weeks than Bush did in 8 years. The Dow is shooting skyward like a rocket and by this time next year the recession will be over with Obamas skilled leadership!

Bye Bye GOP. Its going to be real depressing watching the elections returns in November of 2010 when the dems get veto proof majorities in the house and senate.

I can harly wait to see Rush OD on pain meds..
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by the74blaster March 14, 2009 12:40 PM EDT
Wow. It would have been nice if the 3 trillion we will spent on Iraq would have provided a tangible return for the tax payers. It certainly would have kept us from being a crediter to a COMMUNIST country.
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by Newster1 March 14, 2009 11:45 AM EDT
And that's why the democrats kept lying and saying Fannie/Freddie was fine everytime there was a hearing on it.....I"

You mean the Bush regime, remember; it was former king bush who kept telling the media that the economy was SOUND and refused to admit we were sinking fast] under 2 wars and his global acts and threats are what caused oil prices to spike to $4/gal during his tirades against Iran, Iraq and threatening to do preemptive strikes etc

ODD how right around elections time priced dropped fast, and now that Obama is in the office the oil prices are back around where they were!
Coincidence? hardly! the Middle East was in fear of the tirant invading them next, speculators were cashing in on the global fears that bush doing so would cause oil supplies to be cut off, oil fields, pipelines and refineries to be destroyed and so on.
Now that threat is gone with his removal, you notice the prices dropped to around $1.70/gal
That's no coincidence!
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by whitemale08 March 14, 2009 11:18 AM EDT
Thanks Bush...

for kissing the ass of the British.

The British finally found a boob to fall for Tony Blair's stupid false claims of WMDs to bankrupt the U.S.

Wall Street Republicans who rather live in fantasy instead focusing on the enemy, the British, have fell for their trap and now we are broke to China like any other 3rd world country is to the IMF/World Bank.

Thanks Nixon/Ronnie/Bush I/Bush II/Hannity/Limbaugh.
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by arthurggggg March 14, 2009 7:40 AM EDT
I wish China WOULD top lending our MORONS money. (1)QUIT ENABLING IDIOTS!
China, you are NOT going to be repaid.
(2)It would FORCE Wash. to THINK, for a change.
(3)It would stop the war machine, which is only creating MORE troubles with each faux"victory".
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by cheetah-man7 March 14, 2009 6:03 AM EDT
We can all thank Bush and Cheney for the mess we are in. Those of you blaming Obama need to enroll in my "Reality 101" class - now available on CD for home study all for 3 easy payments of $9.95 (plus S/H). Call 1-800-BUS-HSUX
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by aziridine March 14, 2009 4:09 AM EDT
Just think how much more will have to borrow as Obama extends the Iraq War past Bush's withdrawal date and as Obama expands the Afghan War!!! Obama, the war monger!!! One Big A$$ Mistake America!
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by cs4466 March 14, 2009 3:22 AM EDT
Just think of all the money we borrowed from China to finance our wars of choice in Afghanistan and Iraq. Thanks Bush!
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by aziridine March 14, 2009 2:55 AM EDT
Thanks Obama!
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