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January 6, 2009 3:33 AM

Arab Nations Set For 2nd Gaza Let-Down

Posted by Pamela Falk
Pamela Falk is CBS News' foreign affairs analyst based at the United Nations.


Diplomatic efforts continued at the United Nations on Monday with Arab foreign ministers pressing for a cease fire between Israel and Hamas.

The Arab nations prepared a new draft Security Council Resolution to be presented when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas attends meetings in New York on Tuesday. An open Security Council meeting is planned.

But not much appeared to have changed, despite meetings between the Arab foreign ministers, the U.S. Ambassador, and other permanent members of the Council.

Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad al-Malki said, "We are here with the expectation that all members of the Security Council will work in a positive spirit with us in order to reach an agreement over a draft resolution that will be passed hopefully tomorrow afternoon."

(AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)
Amr Moussa (at left), the Secretary-General of the Arab League, said the meetings were positive, but the new proposal still appeared unlikely to mesh with stated U.S. policy. The U.S. rejected an earlier Arab cease fire proposal last weekend.

The Arab League is setting the stage for yet another disappointment at the U.N. if significant changes are not made.

Israel is hoping for a diplomatic solution outside the U.N. — one which would require a commitment from Hamas to end rocket attacks on southern Israel. That requirement is still missing from the new Arab League draft resolution.

(AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)
However, intense diplomacy is taking place in Israel and Egypt with a European delegation headed by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, an emissary from the Russian Presidency and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair. At the U.N., U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad (at left) joined the Arab ministers' meeting.

The new Arab proposal, which is still being finalized, calls for a cease fire, an immediate withdrawal of Israeli troops, the opening of crossing points, monitoring mechanisms and a U.N. international peacekeeping force to protect the civilian population of Gaza, according to Moussa.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said the effort to negotiate a cease fire was being hampered by the continuing Hamas rocket fire.

Livni told the visiting European delegation in Israel: "The world has to understand that it must choose a camp — Israel or the terrorists."
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by laurieleemoo January 7, 2009 5:37 PM EST
You know, I just can''''t care, I just cannot work myself to care. I forced myself to watch it. I forced myself to read it. And I just have no emotion, I don''''t care.
Posted by louthesz9 at 04:11 AM : Jan 07, 2009

I totally understand what this person is saying...as I too can not bring myself any longer to care about the Palestinian people.

I mean...enough is enough Hamas and all the Palestinians who support them. You are your OWN worst enemies and.......

We just don''t care anymore what happens to you idiots.


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by laurieleemoo January 7, 2009 5:32 PM EST
Exactly how many cease fires do we have to go through before the naive politicians with their high hopes of diplomacy get it through there heads that you can neither negotiate with or trust terrorists while they are in their element.

Hamas must be disbanded as a terrorist organization and then once that happens, Israel can then negotiate with the Palestinian Authority and Abbas.

THAT IS THE ONLY ANSWER!

You can only
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by runningralph January 7, 2009 11:13 AM EST
If Arab nations were serious about having peace they would loudly and publicly denounce Al queda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and all the other terrorist organizations. Instead they call for peace only when infidels retaliate.
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by louthesz9 January 7, 2009 7:11 AM EST
You know, I just can''t care, I just cannot work myself to care. I forced myself to watch it. I forced myself to read it. And I just have no emotion, I don''t care. I remember when I was a little kid, and the Palestinians and Israelis were fighting each other. Let''s face it, there will always be a faction within Palestine that will be violent until ALL Jews are driven out of Israel. They want the entire place back. They''re just gonna fight like this for the rest of our lives and everybody else would have moved on. There will always be a faction that''ll make trouble no matter what truces, peace accords, or decisions are made. You turn on the cable news and they got the experts and they say we gotta negotiate, we have to have a diplomatic solution, blah, blah, blah,.... SHUT UP. JUST SHUT UP!!
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by anitay417 January 6, 2009 8:56 PM EST
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by jimmyc1955 January 6, 2009 5:05 PM EST
Muslim terrorists have been blowing up people indiscriminately. In Iraq and in Afghanistan they kill Muslims, children and women with no remorse.

Recent articles indicate that support for this blind murder is declining and sympathy is waning.

It would make the Arab ambassadors look more concerned if they supported a call for cessation of rocket attacks from Gaza.
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by factsearcher January 6, 2009 5:02 PM EST
What most need to understand is the underlining of the situation. This belic conflict started more than 60 years ago before there was an Israel by british mandate (legally theirs)and is not going to change unless the international community finally put their feet down and get tough with the terrorist organizations...in this case hamas.
To my surprise, this time around the arab nations are asking to cease fire but have not condemned Israel of retaliating...understanding that as long as there is not one united leadership within palestinian...it is a useless cause and israelis have the right and duty to defend themselves as a nation in the middle of the fundamentalist wolves.
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by January 6, 2009 4:03 PM EST
Aldous Huxley opined that "maybe this world is another planet''s hell." This would not be good news for either side. But it would explain why so many earthlings behave like Uranus.
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by quickly101 January 6, 2009 3:59 PM EST
I think the rocket attacks from Gaza into Israel could be stopped quickly if hamas leaders said stop. They don''t want to stop, they are Iranian puppets. Anyone who uses children and women for shields are pitiful excuses for human beings. Hamas is a cult of death.
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by docpeter1953 January 6, 2009 3:57 PM EST
The reason Iseral is doing this now is they can count on this administration to stone wall the UN resolutions. They know that once the power changes in 14 days they may not like the out come of what the UN is going to do.

So they are bent on destruction and they don''''t care about the cost.

But then again it happens sometimes.

Posted by antoniof123 at 08:51
AM : Jan 06, 2009

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Wrong. the reason Israel is doing this now is because Hamas started it again.

Let Hamas quit rocketing Israel and Israel will quit bombing Hamas.

have you not noticed that Hamas continued to send rockets into Israel before and while Israel was bombing Gaza.

Take off the blinders. Hamas started this round and Israel intends to finish.
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by asamiller January 6, 2009 3:06 PM EST
Both the Israeli and Hamas positions are totally self defeating. It is almost impossible to stop the rocket fire by military means, according to their own estimation. They are creating a huge humanitarian crisis which turns world opinion against them and spawns a whole new generation of terrorists so in the long term they make matters worse for themselves and in the short term they don''t accomplish their goals which means victory for Hamas.

Hamas would rather sacrifice the civilian population to garner sympathy and continue the military conflict protected by its human shields. In fact they have advised the population to stay in the line of fire precisely to create more martyrs.

Israel must stop and Hamas must be defeated but by political means and from inside their own borders. Otherwise the bloodbath will continue.
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by rashmi_ui January 6, 2009 3:05 PM EST
The Jew lobby in US is testing president elect obama if he is with them or Not. Also if you see the conflicts in the world right now you will see Srilanka conflict, Russian gas conflict, the Turk%u2019s and Kurds conflict, India and Pak conflict and conflict in Spain. All these are coz of change to presidency in US.
The atrocity done by Israel on innocent pals will not lead to any peace, what to accept from a father to see his family killed and the kids seeing there parents die in front of them. No way i see peace coming .. And when these fathers and kids go against Israel it is called terrorism.
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by ramos937 January 6, 2009 3:03 PM EST
Unless there''''s a provision that compels Hamas to stop the missile attacks that provoked the Israeli offensive in the first place, the resolution isn''''t worth the paper it''''s printed on.
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The tragic truth is that the above is mandatory as regards to Israel. Permanently stop the rockets from Hamas, and then genuine peace talks can start with Hamas as a participant.
If Hamas is not a participant, any talks are useless.
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by Kilz January 6, 2009 2:31 PM EST
While I sympathize with the Palestinians, they must recognize and take responsibility for the fact that they elected HAMAS - a self-proclaimed enemy of ISRAEL...

torva
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I have tried to imaagine myself in Gaza. No food, no work, living in a place most of us in the us wouldnt eveen let our dogs live in. Watching your children grow up maybe and it being no better.
The government goes up for election. One side says that they have done a lot (of which you see nothing). The other side says choose us for "change".

Well it worked here in the US.
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by zoopster1 January 6, 2009 1:59 PM EST
Unless there''s a provision that compels Hamas to stop the missile attacks that provoked the Israeli offensive in the first place, the resolution isn''t worth the paper it''s printed on.

Here''s a thought to all you Israel-bashers who think you got it all figured out by holding Israel solely responsible for this mess: go live in southern Israel for a month or two. As random high-explosive rockets fall into neighborhoods, farm fields and shopping centers FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER, try to get your head around what "provoked" the perpetrators to resort to such militarily ineffective but nonetheless terrorizing tactics. Then report back here. In the meantime, shut up.
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by intheshade-2009 January 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST
This is untrue in part. While Israel left, they blockaded the gaza strip. Nothing goes in or out without their approval. Mostly its nothing gets in. Posted by kcits
--- They keep them in a giganic cocentration camp, use them for cheap labor.
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by mrjustice1 January 6, 2009 12:28 PM EST
Part 1:

THE EVIL IRANIAN ISLAMOFASCIST LEADERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOMENTING OVERTHROW OF ARAB GOVERNMENTS, AND FOR SUPPORTING HAMAS, HEZBOLAH, AND OTHER TERRORIST MURDERERS AND THEIR ACTS OF TERRORISM AROUND THE GLOBE

The current Iranian regime - with it''s primitive, ''punish-and-destroy'' mentality - must be held responsible for much of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and elsewhere.

The current, ISLAM-IMPOSING, Iranian regime is working AGAINST the good interests of both peoples and nations of the world.

The current, ISLAM-IMPOSING, Iranian regime - with it''s primitive, ''punish-and-destroy'' mentality -
is HEAVILY responsible for instigating numerous acts of terror, destruction and murder, not only in the Mid East, but around the entire world.

The current, ISLAM-IMPOSING, Iranian regime - with it''s primitive, ''punish-and-destroy'' mentality - which hardly experiences a shortage of oil, gas, or petroleum, must be prevented from continuing with its nuclear weapons program without further delay.
(Who really believes the Iranian regime''s false claims that their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes??!!)
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by torva-2009 January 6, 2009 12:28 PM EST
While I sympathize with the Palestinians, they must recognize and take responsibility for the fact that they elected HAMAS - a self-proclaimed enemy of ISRAEL...

How then could they expect to be left in peace when HAMAS refuses to recognize Israel - the first step in building a basis for a lasting peace (and other arab pipe dreams), and secondly HAMAS'' history of suicide and missle attacks...

Really what did the Palestinians think would happen? and what do the Palestinians think is going to happen now?!?!?!

There is a remarkable difference this time around as diplomats look for "peace/cease fire" -- while they are going through the motions, including the Arabs, there appears to be a lack of urgentcy on all sides...aside from poo-pooing the poor GAZAN civilians

A sad but tragic truth may be that peace will come only from the ashes of GAZA...regardless of where one stands on the issue of the Israeli / Palestinian conflict...and the Press/media should stop differentiating between Hamas and the Palestinians and simply refer to HAMAS as Palestinians...

For the sake of world peace, let GAZA BURN!
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by antoniof123 January 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST
The reason Iseral is doing this now is they can count on this administration to stone wall the UN resolutions. They know that once the power changes in 14 days they may not like the out come of what the UN is going to do.

So they are bent on destruction and they don''t care about the cost.

But then again it happens sometimes.
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by Kilz January 6, 2009 11:33 AM EST
When anyone who does not deserve to gets injured or suffers it is very sad, but that is unfortunately the result of Hamas and their policies. Israel left Gaza in 2005, giving Palestinians the chance to run their own lives.

Dkaufman81
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This is untrue in part. While Israel left, they blockaded the gaza strip. Nothing goes in or out without their approval. Mostly its nothing gets in.
This is a prime reason this whole mess exists. Had Israel just left theem alone, perhaps they wouldnt me murdering them now.
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