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January 5, 2009 9:39 AM

Franken To Be Certified Winner, But Minnesota Senate Battle Not Over

(AP Photo/Jim Mone)
This afternoon, the Minnesota state Canvassing Board is set to certify recount results showing Democrat Al Franken with 225 more votes than incumbent Republican Norm Coleman.

Coleman isn't exactly calling Franken to congratulate him on a victory, however: His campaign's lawyers have seven days to file suit challenging the results, and they have suggested they will do so. According to the Star Tribune, the ensuing court battle could "leave the seat vacant for weeks."

The Coleman camp's hopes rest on two arguments: One, that a small number of ballots were counted twice in the recount, and two, that 650 improperly rejected ballots were never forwarded to local officials to be counted.*

As the Associated Press reports, New York Sen. Charles Schumer has indicated he favors seating Franken soon.

"While there are still possible legal issues that will run their course, there is no longer any doubt who will be the next Senator from Minnesota," he said. "With the Senate set to begin meeting on Tuesday to address the important issues facing the nation, it is crucial that Minnesota's seat not remain empty, and I hope this process will resolve itself as soon as possible."

But Republicans are signaling that they will fight efforts to seat the former comedian. On CNN this morning, National Republican Senatorial Committee chair Sen. John Cornyn said there is a "likelihood" of a filibuster over Franken being seated (even provisionally), and the AP quotes Cornyn criticizing Schumer for "pre-judging the outcome while litigation is still pending."

Franken's lead rose from the double digits to the current 225 votes on Saturday, when 933 wrongly rejected absentee ballots were counted. There were almost 3 million votes cast in an race.

Republicans are already framing the Coleman/Franken fight as an example of Democrats acting improperly. The Republican National Committee late last night sent an editorial to reporters from the conservative Wall Street Journal editorial page alleging "Funny Business in Minnesota."

"Thanks to the machinations of Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie and a meek state Canvassing Board, Mr. Franken may emerge as an illegitimate victor," the WSJ wrote – a sentiment likely to be echoed by Republicans in the coming days.

*UPDATE: The Minnesota Supreme Court has rejected the Coleman camp's request to count the roughly 650 rejected absentee ballots upon which it has pinned its hopes.

But that doesn't mean Coleman is giving up – his campaign quickly sent out a statement vowing to contest the results.

“Given our campaign’s unwavering commitment to ensuring that the vote of no Minnesotan is disenfranchised, today’s ruling by the Minnesota Supreme Court is both disappointing and disheartening," Coleman for Senate Counsel Fritz Knaak said. "The fact that the Franken campaign now rejects the notion of every valid vote being counted so they can attempt to declare victory on the basis of a broken process, and an artificial lead built on double counting of votes should concern all Minnesotans. Today’s ruling, which effectively disregards the votes of hundreds of Minnesotans, ensures that an election contest is now inevitable."

As the AP notes, the Supreme Court left the door wide open for such a move – the ruling noted that Coleman's motion to have the ballots counted "was among issues better handled in a post-recount lawsuit."

UPDATE #2: And it's official: Around 3:30 PM Eastern Time, the board certified Franken as the winner of the recount.
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by antoniof123 January 5, 2009 11:08 AM PST
Too funny they want the courts to overturn the votes.

Just like a reactionary wing nut if they can''t win fairly they will cheat any way they can.

It is over Coleman and you have lost.
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by briannorwood January 5, 2009 11:17 AM PST
Time to give up the ghost Coleman! If you were a more effective Senator, your seat would not have been up for grabs!
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by whosaid1 January 5, 2009 11:19 AM PST
And why would anyone be surprised at this ?! It''s been obvious from the very start that this would be the outcome. I say Minnesota deserves Franken.......wow, what at "hoot".
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by nobdysfool January 5, 2009 11:42 AM PST
WAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAH! These repuglicans can never concede with honor or dignity.
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by pvperson January 5, 2009 11:44 AM PST
Yeah, why did they let votes for Franken count, don''t they know that only republicans are allowed in office.

After all, Coleman expects the courts to put him in power, not the voters.
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by brannigon January 5, 2009 11:45 AM PST
MN has to get its head back on straight! First Jesse Ventura for governor, and now Franken for senator! They''re both a joke! Come on MN wake up!!!
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by drputt45 January 5, 2009 11:57 AM PST
Yeah, it looks like Franken won, but MN lost. I don''t care if the senator is dem or rep, but come on, a comedian? Politics is a big enough joke already.
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by notblue January 5, 2009 12:00 PM PST
nobodysfool, like Gore and the left have done!

Just goes to show how stupid the left in America really is, they think a far left, failed radio talk show host/satirist is qualified to be a U.S. senator! Nice!
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by wannabersc January 5, 2009 12:00 PM PST
MN, you are now officially the laughing stock of America. Hey look... the joke is on you.
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by actornaught January 5, 2009 12:19 PM PST
...These repuglicans can never concede with honor or dignity.
Posted by nobdysfool at 11:42 AM : Jan 05, 2009

Of course, the gracious concession was only something Coleman wanted Franken to give. Now that the mandated recount is over, Hypocrite Coleman looks to drag it into court.
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by nobdysfool January 5, 2009 12:20 PM PST
notblue, Al Gore had the election stolen from him & everyone knows it. And look what your great President Bush has done to our country!
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by washcapitals January 5, 2009 12:22 PM PST
Wow this country is going to h*ell in a handbasket.
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by antoniof123 January 5, 2009 12:27 PM PST
WSJ is now used for toilet paper throughout the southern states and Mexico.
Posted by ConDumbistan at 11:22 AM : Jan 05, 2009

How true I canceled mine about 6 months ago when I realized it was turning into another faux news. Do wing nuts really think or do they just except others to beleive everything they say.

They are dumber than dirt ruined a good paper.
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by jbs6 January 5, 2009 12:30 PM PST
Notbleu;
Just goes to show how stupid the left in America really is, they think a far left, failed radio talk show host/satirist is qualified to be a U.S. senator! Nice!


-30 y.o. and a US citizen of the state. Ask a former groping weightlifter, why don''t you? -Or ask a former "B" actor''s wife.
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by zzy-izzy January 5, 2009 12:30 PM PST
The republicans are something else if they cant just right out and steal a election they will drag it through the courts and spend the taxpayers money and if that does not work they may even suck a johnson to get the job what poor loosers the Republicans are whine cry kick and pull ther hair and maby even run to mommy.
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by zzy-izzy January 5, 2009 12:36 PM PST
notblue he may be more qualified than most Republicans in office now look what aronald has done $42billion in cal great for a actor but i firgot he is a Republican so that one does not count.
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by irmcvet971 January 5, 2009 12:42 PM PST
In a perverted sense, one must admit that franken, if the ACORN fraud prevails, could become the best symbol of the d-crat party: a pathetic, non-funny clown. He''''ll also provide a new and even better justification for their jackass symbol.

Posted by LoonyLeft at 12:30 PM : Jan 05, 2009


LOL YEAH right! The Democrats could have elected someone like Larry Craig! ROFLMAO You know when you have given the nation the WORST in its history you really aren''t relevant anymore!
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by dubya_luvr January 5, 2009 12:43 PM PST
I love all the Republican bed-wetting going on in this forum.

You lost a recount. The courts couldn''t be bought this time. Cry me a river.
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by hatesthecolt January 5, 2009 12:58 PM PST
If he''s properly certified, they need to seat him. Republicans need to get over themselves: they can''t steal one EVERY election. Maybe they''ll do better in 2012.
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by wingnutsblow January 5, 2009 1:08 PM PST
Hey Norm, call the waaahhhhmbulance!
I heard no such outrage when Kenneth Blackwell delivered Ohio for Bush in 2004.
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by dinkydog1 January 5, 2009 1:10 PM PST
Al Franken is a complete idiot...and this proves the people in Minnesota are ret@rded....


Posted by yurajackass at 12:42


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No, it only proves even an idiot and a bad comedian can defeat a Republican.


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by zykracosmos January 5, 2009 1:12 PM PST
Here''s the thing- if an idiot like "yurajackass" is against Al Franken being seated, then we should all be for him. Never trust a politician without a sense of humor. Al''s books and radio program gave us all a good sense of his common sense and intellect. He will be a thoughtful progressive Senator who will do what''s right. I have no sympathy for the whining, mean and nasty Republicans who ran this country into the ground and still don''t have the humilty to admit the damage they have done. Go get ''em Al!
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by notmudrose1 January 5, 2009 1:14 PM PST
a few moments ago the minnesota supreme court denied coleman''s claim that 650 absentee ballots were not counted.

next step: state delares franken the winner.
next step: coleman sues
next step: minnesota supreme court dismisses coleman''s suit.
next step: franken is MN senator
next step: franken joins caroline kennedy as the 59th democratic senator.
next step: a few republican senators die and democrats replace them and no more filibusters.
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by zykracosmos January 5, 2009 1:20 PM PST
Forum Communications reports: %u201CThe state Canvassing Board has carefully handled its duties in the U.S. Senate recount, a board member and Minnesota%u2019s top judge said. Supreme Court Chief Justice Eric Magnuson, who sits on the board responsible for declaring an election winner, said regardless of the outcome, citizens and the candidates - Sen. Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken - need to be assured %u2018that everything%u2019s been looked at and looked at carefully%u2019 by the five-member board. Magnuson was satisfied that occurred, particularly during the board%u2019s inspection of nearly 1,500 votes that the campaigns challenged during the statewide recount. %u2018It%u2019s apparent that everybody%u2019s worked really hard on this and if there were any nits to be picked, they%u2019ve been picked,%u2019 he said.%u201D
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/108647/
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by notmudrose1 January 5, 2009 1:20 PM PST
hey ladyorgans(gopwillwin/gophockemom/etc./etc) since you''re down on your knees I''ll oblige you...zip!
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by xlib January 5, 2009 1:21 PM PST
Naw, it ain''t over because there are a bunch of abandoned cars that have ballots in them that need to be counted a few times.
This guy should fit in just fine with the rest of the dem clowns. Why, he may even replace harry as court jestor to queen nance.
Gotta love it.
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by zykracosmos January 5, 2009 1:22 PM PST
As an upstanding member of the Christian race I reject this satantic decision and urge all other upstanding Christians to join me in prayer for the future of this country.


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Posted by lady_organs at 01:15 PM : Jan 05, 2009
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...an upstanding member of the Christian race? What the he11 is that?
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by zykracosmos January 5, 2009 1:24 PM PST
the way the government is looking for the next 4 years, I guess Fox News will lose a lot of viewers as most Republicans go back to watching NASCAR as their irrelavance starts to sink in.
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by dubya_luvr January 5, 2009 1:27 PM PST
Posted by ZykraCosmos at 01:22 PM : Jan 05, 2009

lady_organs plays the role of "straw man" here, spewing easily vilified far right remarks. Please ignore them if it gets to you.
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by washrealtor January 5, 2009 1:33 PM PST
Franken no doubt had advisors from Wash. Gov. Gregoire as to the correct methods to do a recount. AKA recount and find "ballots" until you win then call it over.
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by marcodele January 5, 2009 1:39 PM PST
It isn''t a very good year for the right wing neocon nutjob compassionate conservative christians, is it?

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by hatesthecolt January 5, 2009 1:51 PM PST
Posted by notmudrose1
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You sick perverted liberal, now you have made this message board unfit for christian viewing!

Posted by lady_organs

Notmudrose, if you ACTUALLY get her to go away, I''LL DO IT! ; )
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by cariboubarbi January 5, 2009 2:03 PM PST


If Republicans could govern competently, they''d still be in power. Instead they''re eating sour grapes.



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by dubya_luvr January 5, 2009 2:20 PM PST
Does anyone recall the margin of votes Al Gore lost FL by, and the subsequent Republican response to the lawsuit over that election recount?

Gore lost by a razor-thin margin, and Republicans screamed about the recount and the lawsuit to conduct it, which ultimately resulted in the recount never being conducted and the Supreme Court declaring Bush the winner.

Republicans: all hypocrisy, all corruption, all the time.
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by strangeworld January 5, 2009 2:57 PM PST
The bigger question here is why, with this country circling the bowl because of an economic meltdown of their creation, are the remaining republicans in government more worried about seating one senator than they are working for the good of this nation. The GOP has turned into the party of obstructionists...they have no interest in the betterment of the nation for all it''s citizens and instead spend their days trying to change policy to the advantage of their wealthy friends, business associates, and campaign contributors. There''s a reason that republicans continue to be voted out, and an example of the behavior that started their slide is evident in the threatening filibuster instead of working for the taxpayer/citizen. With the country on the verge of a depression, lets drop the partisan BS folks - If you live in the district of a republican senator, give their office a call and tell them to start working for the good of the country rather than playing games. It''s about time that republicans start working for all of us.
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by omega40 January 5, 2009 3:04 PM PST
Well this is good news. Coleman will soon be off the government dole and able to pursue a plethora of opportunities in the private sector that he and his fellow GOPers helped create. I hope Mr. Coleman isn''t a hypocrite and rejects any holdover benefits such as health care, pension or unemployment benefits in the name of smaller government and to lead by example his desire to do away with entitlements.
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by strangeworld January 5, 2009 3:42 PM PST
Contrary to recent attepts by the remaining republicans to muddy the waters and claim that they are blameless, the GOP, once taking office in 2000 under bush, had their say on just about every policy that they cared to enact - it''s evident now that republican policy was a dismal failure for most Americans. For most of eight years, democrats allowed the president and members of the GOP to make the country a better place, the best that the conservatives could do was to get us mired in an expensive war that was not needed and an economic meltdown. Republican policy has run it''s course...the people of the US have spoken and desire a change. The GOP should accept the fact that their attempts have been fruitless and throw their support behind Obama and the democrats as the voters desire.
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by strangeworld January 5, 2009 4:11 PM PST
The nation as a whole are rueing the day that they elected the modern republican party into office...from reagan to bush they have been a dismal failure and have severely harmed America. Republican policy does not work...it''s time to call your senator and insist that they stop the same old GOP tactics that have ruined this country. It''s stupid to go on about Franken being a threat to this nation''s politics when we''ve endured 28 years of catastrophe at the hands of the GOP. It''s time for a change.
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by brundage3 January 5, 2009 4:16 PM PST
The stuff about Gregoire here in Washington State,,, The post here is in factual error.

(WHY CBS does not enforce at least the ethics rules of a typical major newspapers columnist upon uis is beyond me!)

The dems diod not insist on holding recount after recount until she was elected. (2008 in fact she won handily over the opponent she also beat years earlier.)

In her first election the lead changed hands in recount process. UNCOUNTED votes in King county were found. There were other issues. For instance a mechanical recount versus hand recounting. And in the final analysis she won.

NO non partisan org. maitains the recount(s) were not valid. She won close. She won fair and square.
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by alanw1077 January 5, 2009 4:17 PM PST
I can hear the 80% liberal Minnesota canvassing board officers now:
"The minute Franken is ahead, the recount is OVER! Got it?"

What a shameful period in Minnesotas history. A disgrace, a complete and total robbery.
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by centerfall94 January 5, 2009 4:19 PM PST
Poor poor republicans. Cry more please? You lost. And you lost HUGE. Franken''s victory is just the icing on the big fat victory cake for the democrats.

Hear that? YOU LOST. YOU LOST BIG.
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by hillarynow January 5, 2009 6:51 PM PST
CONGRATS SENATOR FRANKEN! YOU''VE DONE GOOD! THE US SENATE NEEDS MEN LIKE YOU! COLEMAN IS A SORE LOSER! LOOK AT HIM WHINING LIKE A LITTLE GIIIIRRRRRRL! FRANKEN FOR PRESIDENT!!!
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by briannorwood January 6, 2009 9:46 AM PST
Hey Norm!

Didn''t you say right after the election that it would be best for the State if Al conceded?

Shoes'' on the other foot now. Do you still have that great concern for the poor people of MN?
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by hillarynow January 6, 2009 6:10 PM PST
Coleman is a sore loser. Al Franken is so much smarter than Coleman, thank God Coleman lost!! We are all so happy in the Democratic party, and it''s been so much fun watching you Republicans squirm, somewhere right now Bill O''Reilly is having a nervous breakdown over this one!

Break out the party hats and Champagne!

Franken for President !!!
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