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January 4, 2009 10:28 AM

Cheney: Israel Did Not Seek U.S. Clearance For Ground Attack

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Vice President Dick Cheney said on CBS' Face The Nation Sunday that Israel did not seek approval from the U.S. before embarking on a ground invasion into Gaza.

“They didn’t seek clearance or approval from us, certainly,” he said.

“I think it’s important to remember who the enemy is here," Cheney continued, when asked if the ground attack was a mistake. "The enemy is not the Palestinians, from the perspective of the Israelis – it’s Hamas.”

“…You’ve got a U.N. member state being attacked by a terrorist organization," Cheney said. "And to go after that terrorist organization, I think they probably decided that an air campaign wasn’t enough, that they had to go in on the ground if they were going to take down the sites from which the rockets had been launched against Israel.”

Cheney called his comments “informed speculation.”

“If there’s to be a ceasefire, you can’t simply go back to the status quo anti, what it was a few weeks ago,” he said. “Where you had a ceasfire recognized by one side but not adhered to by the other. It’s got to be a sustainable, durable propsoiton, and Hamas has to stop rocketing Israel. And I don’t think you can have a viable ceasefire until their prepared to do that.”

Cheney also said that the administration’s surveillance program had been a success that “provided crucial intelligence for us. It’s one of the main reasons we’ve been successful in defending the country against further attacks.”

“This was all done in accordance with the president’s constitutional authority under article two of the Constitution as commander in chief,” he added.

When host Bob Schieffer asked if the Bush administration had gone “too far” in its surveillance program, Cheney said no.

“I don’t believe we violated anybody’s civil liberties,” he said.

“Do you believe the president, in time of war, that anything he does is legal?” Schieffer asked.

“I can’t say that anything he does is legal,” Cheney said. “I think we do and we have historic precedent of taking action which you wouldn’t take in peacetime but that you will take sometimes in wartime in order to do the basic job that you sign up to when you take the oath of office – to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”

“If you hark back in our history and look at Abraham Lincoln,” Cheney continued, “who suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus in the middle of the Civil War…”

“But nobody thinks that that was legal,” Schieffer interjected.

“No – well, it certainly was in the sense he wasn’t impeached,” Cheney said. “And it was a wartime measure that he took that I think history says today, yeah, that was probably a good thing to do.”

Schieffer asked Cheney if the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq had been handled badly.

“The original campaign was masterfully done,” Cheney said. “…I think the thing that we underestimated, at least I underestimated, was the damage that had been done to the Iraqi population by all those years of Saddam’s rule. So that there weren’t any Iraqis early on who were willing to stand up and take responsibility for their own affairs. Anybody who had that kind of get up and go in earlier years had had their head chopped off. And I think we underestimated the damage that had been done during those years of Saddam’s rule.”

Cheney also urged the Obama administration to continue the Bush administration’s interrogation policies.

“I would hope [Obama] would avoid doing what others have done in the past, which is letting the campaign rhetoric guide his judgment in this absolutely crucial area,” Cheney said. “We were very careful, we did everything by the book, and in fact we produced very significant results.”
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by jain1800 January 4, 2009 11:55 AM PST
As an American I do not understand with what is going on in the world you needed to talk to a person who is totally irrelavent in our lives. The worst vice president
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by ramos937 January 4, 2009 11:59 AM PST
Cheney also urged the Obama administration to continue the Bush administration%u2019s interrogation policies.

%u201CI would hope [Obama] would avoid doing what others have done in the past, which is letting the campaign rhetoric guide his judgment in this absolutely crucial area,%u201D Cheney said. %u201CWe were very careful, we did everything by the book, and in face we produced very significant results.%u201D
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Although it is a movie, Rendition very accurately shows one primary method of interrogation. In the film, an Mulim-American is kidnapped by the CIA, transported to Egypt(?), tortured by Egypt day after day to reveal information that in truth he does not have access to. Finally, the CIA observer has had enough. He causes the prisoner to be released and insures his and the prisoner''s safety by spilling the beans to the Washington Post who then reveals the program. The film was based on a true story. This is one of the tactics Cheney wants Obama to retain.
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by dpearlberg-2009 January 4, 2009 12:08 PM PST
This was vintage Cheney. If you look in the dictionary under Hubris, self-importance, smug, pedantic, and %u201Cman-without-a spiritual center, you will see his photo!
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by babooph January 4, 2009 12:12 PM PST
His "significant results" include the destruction of the bill of rights & the shame of our nation worldwide-any aware idividual will forever think of him with digust.
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by flajoe1 January 4, 2009 12:13 PM PST
"I think the thing that we underestimated, at least I underestimated, was the damage that had been done to the Iraqi population by all those years of Saddam%u2019s rule. "


Soooooooo it was the Iraqi''s fault we did such a bad job.

Typical CEO response you see they never take reasonability for failure. They only take full credit for success.
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by cukidoh January 4, 2009 12:13 PM PST
Ridiculous interview. Shame on you Bob Schieffer. *** Cheney is one of the most dangerous men in American history. His use of executive privilege when convenient is an affront to democracy. He says all they did was approved by the Attorney General--PLEASE!!!!--Gonzalez couldn''t spell his own name without asking Cheney. Reports were rewritten over and over until they contained the lies Bush/Cheney wanted. They even eavesdropped on Tony Blair!!! --one of their only friends. NOT ONE SINGLE HEAD OF STATE SHOOK BUSH''S HAND AT THE G21 ECONOMIC SUMMIT....Prosecute Bush/Cheney. They are corrupt and have destroyed our country.
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by vetsence January 4, 2009 12:18 PM PST
Is this the man associated with Haliburton war contracts telling us about going by the book?
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by dburfears January 4, 2009 12:26 PM PST
Cheney thinks that anything the President does is legal so long as the political climate lets him get away with it.

In other words, it may be wrong, it may be unconstitutional, it may be illegal. However, if the Congress does not have the political will to remove the President, the the President has no obligation to follow the law, follow the Constitution, or do what is right.

This is not a man who understands representative government, right and wrong, or the concept of integrity.
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by n8yvn29 January 4, 2009 12:32 PM PST
Here we have Cheney cheerleading the brutal Israeli invasion and occupying of the Gaza Strip. Cheney, the same miscreant who deliberately lied us into an unwinnable occupation of Iraq, helped to destroy our economy, spied on and tortured Americans, did away with Habeas Corpus, outed a CIA agent, etc, etc. THE FACT THAT CHENEY SUPPORTS THIS INVASION SHOULD SPEAK VOLUMES IN AND OF ITSELF!!!
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by allzwell January 4, 2009 12:37 PM PST
Posted by TexHillGirl at 12:17 PM : Jan 04, 2009

Bitter, bitter... c''mon, cough up that vile hairball you''re choking on.
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by boatdocster January 4, 2009 12:39 PM PST
%u201CThe original campaign was masterfully done,%u201D Cheney said. %u201C%u2026I think the thing that we underestimated, at least I underestimated, was the damage that had been done to the Iraqi population by all those years of Saddam%u2019s rule. So that there weren%u2019t any Iraqis early on who were willing to stand up and take responsibility for their own affairs. Anybody who had that kind of get up and go in earlier years had had their head chopped off. And I think we underestimated the damage that had been done during those years of Saddam%u2019s rule.%u201D

PURE CHENEY *********! First, we should never have been in Iraq. Second, we toppled a 3 bit leader, illegally, for their oil. No ifs, ands or but''s.

Many people in the US Government, including Powell, told this Dimwit what type of planning and troops would be needed in a post Saddam era. Notice how Darth Cheney tries to blame it one the Iraqi people instead standing up and saying "Yes, we screwed up there".

ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY!! More Iraqi''s killed under US occupation then under Saddam.

W - WORST EVER!!
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by pirmin3 January 4, 2009 12:45 PM PST
Cheney be one sick mo fo
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by boatdocster January 4, 2009 1:00 PM PST
%u201C%u2026You%u2019ve got a U.N. member state being attacked by a terrorist organization," Cheney said.

I''m sure Saddam said the same thing - I''m an UN member state, allowing UN inspectors in to my country and still the USA was allowed to invade and declare war on Iraq, despite no threat, verbal or otherwise, no Iraqi attack on any US citizen or territory.

Hey Darth, that makes you wonder who the real terrorist is...
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by jrszabo January 4, 2009 1:02 PM PST
He is sick!! And his presence tainted Bush''s presidency!!!
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by January 4, 2009 1:18 PM PST
Obama, please continue our Bush/Cheney torture regime.
It totally gets us off the hook.
Cool, thanks :-)
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by lolmom1 January 4, 2009 1:19 PM PST
God Bless Israel and God Bless America for backing them. Hope Obama has enough intelligence to do the same thing. If not....just watch what happens to the USA
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by utahliberal January 4, 2009 1:28 PM PST
"Face the Nation"? Bob, change the name of your show to "Snow the Nation". You really grilled Dr. No today...pathetic after all he did behind the scenes for the past 8 years and the results we live with today that are clear to everyone, the fact Cheney/Bush continue their exit interviews without anyone seriously questioning them...Murrow/Sevareid''s network a shadow of it''s former self.
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by liberalme January 4, 2009 1:29 PM PST
To you ignorant idiots if these commie bastwards stood up and told you the sun is going to come up in the west tomorrow, you fools would believe it.

Posted by TexHillGirl

Sorry tex, rowdy--whatever--you are outnumbered. Even your lookaid drinking cons admit Bush and Cheney are lying terrorists, but not you---goes against your grain to admit your cult leaders are criminals.
Leaves you in denial and without a conscience--just like them.
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by dburfears January 4, 2009 1:34 PM PST
Schieffer always softballs his "good friends" in the GOP. Now this guy is allowing a criminal to spout his anti-American and anti-Liberty ideas without a single hint of real questioning.

Cheney thinks that anything the President does is legal so long as he gets away with it. In other words, it may be wrong, it may be unconstitutional, it may be illegal; however, if the Congress does not have the political will to remove the President, then the President has no obligation to follow the law, follow the Constitution, or do what is right.

So if some slimeball commits a murder, but gets away with it, then it is LEGAL? Of is being a criminal only OK if you are a GOP President? Give me a break.
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by mtminds January 4, 2009 1:35 PM PST
The real ruler of the country speaks!
And the truth is still not told!
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by lopezf11 January 4, 2009 2:15 PM PST
The real ruler of the country speaks!
And the truth is still not told!

Posted by mtminds

Hyperbole R Us.
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by lopezf11 January 4, 2009 2:18 PM PST
Sorry tex, rowdy--whatever--you are outnumbered. Even your lookaid drinking cons admit Bush and Cheney are lying terrorists, but not you---goes against your grain to admit your cult leaders are criminals.
Leaves you in denial and without a conscience--just like them.

Posted by liberalme

The Israelis are outnumbered. Alot of good that does the Arabs.

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by lesaa January 4, 2009 2:19 PM PST
Mr. Schieffer really did not ask the questions I thought he would if this was meant to be an "exit" interview. I thought I was watching FOX there for a moment!
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by lopezf11 January 4, 2009 2:21 PM PST
Mr. Schieffer really did not ask the questions I thought he would if this was meant to be an "exit" interview. I thought I was watching FOX there for a moment!

Posted by lesaa

Don''t take that stuff if you''re going to drive, drink alcohol or watch TV.
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by chalres-2009 January 4, 2009 2:41 PM PST
why is this guy not in jail?
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by pejohns2 January 4, 2009 2:44 PM PST
Your interview with Queen Victoria pleased me greatly. When the Real President says "we/us" it is editorial for "I/me"; only rarely does he say Bush, and then it is about some particularly heinous action. Cheney would not have achieved his long-time power and ill-gotten wealth if he could be publicly rattled by the press. You graciously establish a non-combatant ambiance and treat your guest with hospitable respect; this relaxes the guest''s guard somewhat. Then your shrewdly phrased questions, asked in a low-key manner, disarm the guest as much as is posible. And, around the well-rehearsed fabricated answers, a little truth is unintentionally leaked out, enabling the active listener to possibly glean some real understanding of a heavily curtained topic. Stephanopolous seems to be trying to acquire these skills. If a guest is a charlatan, the Meet the Press heavy-handed interrogations, designed to advance an interviewer''s tough fierceness rather than to unearth factual information, only fuel already sharply-honed skills in obfuscation.

The reflections on the year''s developments were not only delightfully laid out, but also right on. You''re being a well-dressed anchor is a visual boon in an era of sartorial depression.
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by liberalme January 4, 2009 3:09 PM PST
LibturdYou, I don''''t know what the heck "lookaid" is (likely some new extention of the public nipple your neo-messiah is promising to give you as payment for your vote), but the fact you try and excrete the fact any real American conservatives ever made such a claim proves two things fur sure and fur sartain..

1: You are too friggin stupid to have even a tiny clue as to what a conservative is, or you are...

2: Too friggin un-American to care...

Both you say??

Posted by GoGWGo at

Hey Koolaid drinker---you must be one of the 20% Bush cult die hard war mongers.
Good for you, personally I don''t like my grandson fignting a manufactured Bush war.
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by tincup356 January 4, 2009 3:21 PM PST
Cheney and Bush don''t need to be impeached,,,,they need to face war crimes trials...they have both violated the rights of citizens in this country and have used both the bill of rights and the constitution like toilet paper,,,,,,Both of these men and congress are committing treason, and are pulling off the biggest ripoff in world history,,,,,why aren''t the people revolting?
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by tincup356 January 4, 2009 3:27 PM PST
Bush and Cheney deserve a fair trial....then a fair hanging just like they did Saddam for killing his people.
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by fahren451 January 4, 2009 3:27 PM PST
1: You are too friggin stupid to have even a tiny clue as to what a conservative is, or you are...

2: Too friggin un-American to care...

Both you say??

Posted by GoGWGo at 02:19 PM : Jan 04, 2009

Define your punch list then. I would love to read the words of a genius.
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by jokr8790 January 4, 2009 6:05 PM PST
This was a puff piece interview. Schieffer didn''t ask any tough questions. The administration didn''t violate anyone''s civil liberties? Is he kidding or on drugs? How about 4th Amendment rights, Fifth Amendment rights, 6th Amendment rights, FISA violations, usurpation of Congress''s power to declare war? Orchestration of phony prosecutions of democrats during elections, vote rigging...The list goes on.
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by sivalleyguy January 4, 2009 11:16 PM PST
Cheney''s words are a target rich source of disinformation. "DISINFORMATION is false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately." If Cheney wasn''t consulted before the Israelis indicated they were going to attack Gaza I''m Bill Gates. It''s obvious the Israelis scheduled a time before Obama came in, yet after the US elections. I didn''t say the Israelis asked permission, but "consulted" with the REAL president (aka Cheney). There were just too many AIPAC fans in the OVP for Cheney not to be consulted. I''m sure the Saudis knew, too.
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by sivalleyguy January 4, 2009 11:26 PM PST
Mr. Scheiffer: why haven''t you read "How to Break a Terrorist" by Matthew Alexander? This is a book by an American military interrogator that lays out how to interrogate successfully and get results that actually.....kill terrorists! Wow! Imagine that.

After you have read Mr. Alexander''s book (a professional pseudonymn) do you think the interview with Cheney could have been improved?

Perhaps, Mr. Schieffer, you could be so kind as to schedule Mr. Alexander on your program to "Meet the Nation." We could benefit from an alternative to Cheney''s disinformation.
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by gogwgo January 4, 2009 11:28 PM PST
Hey Koolaid drinker---you must be one of the 20% Bush cult die hard war mongers.
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Posted by liberalme at 03:09 PM : Jan 04, 2009

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LibturdYou, given your screen name you appear to be so proud of, might I have expected anything more than the classic DumboCraphead kut''n run we see above??

Nope!!
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by gogwgo January 4, 2009 11:34 PM PST
I see the CBS board censor came through and removed any and all who dared to offer opposition....

Tell me CBS board censor, do these left wing pinkos have to suck your weeeeeeenie to get get you to do this, or might you not be properly plumbed for such???

In which case do they let you suck theirs??
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by jeff9611 January 5, 2009 11:56 AM PST
HUMUS IS A CRIMINAL AND TERRORIST BODY OF FIGHTERS THAT HIDE BEHIND CHILDREN AND IN HOSPITALS WHICH MEANS THEY ARE THE BIGGIST COWARD ANYWHERE AND ISRAEL HAS EVERY RIGHT TO STUMP THEM COZ WE WOULD DO THE SAME THING IF SOME BAND WAS DOING THAT FROM MEXICO IN FACT WE DID IN 1916 PONCH VILLA ATTACK COLOMBUS,NM , GEN. PIRSHING CHASE HIM ALL OVER MEXICO
(PLEASE FORGIVE SPELLING)
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by kansas1946 January 5, 2009 6:18 PM PST
Cheney also urged the Obama administration to continue the Bush administration%u2019s interrogation policies.

%u201CI would hope [Obama] would avoid doing what others have done in the past, which is letting the campaign rhetoric guide his judgment in this absolutely crucial area,%u201D Cheney said. %u201CWe were very careful, we did everything by the book, and in fact we produced very significant results.%u201D
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What a disgusting American. He has tried to justify trashing the constitution and torturing people, but fortunately, most Americans are not buying it, and I am almost sure that Obama is not buying it. A few more days and this evil administration will be history and America can try to recover from the damage. If we are lucky, we will NEVER have to see Cheney''s face again.
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