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October 10, 2008 3:16 PM

Biden's Politeness With Palin Is Over

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From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro:

(SPRINGFIELD, MO.) - While Joe Biden talks about the “big issues” the country is facing - the worsening economic crisis, the need for energy independence, the disappearing pensions for American workers – it’s also worth noting that he has changed his tone on Sarah Palin to one that borders on condescension and mockery.

Prior to the debate, Biden said he “respected” Palin and limited his comments to saying “I don’t know much about her” when he spoke publicly.

In Green Bay last month, Biden said, “Sarah Palin has made a couple really good political speeches, and she makes a very strong impression and a confident impression.”

In Sarasota, Biden was asked how he would treat Palin during the debate, to which he replied, “Well look, the answer is one word: with respect. I mean it sincerely, with respect. She is the governor of a state. She warrants respect, and the only thing that I have to find out and you will have to find out is, what are her views.”

During their debate, we did not see the Biden that used cutting remarks as he did with Giuliani last year, when he said the former mayor only knew how to create a sentence with “a noun, a verb, and 9/11”.

And while the reaction from critics and voters was that Biden kept his cool and did not come across as arrogant, patronizing, or sexist in their debate, he certainly has a different view and tone when looking back on it now.

“Last week I had a debate, at least I think it was a debate, with Governor Palin,” said Biden to huge roar from a crowd in Tampa, Fla.

Biden now peppers lines like that in all of his speeches – lighthearted swipes at Palin, saying to a crowd in Springfield, Missouri, “Isn’t she neat?” to howls of laughter.

On Thursday in the state’s capital, Jefferson City, Biden said, “Sarah Palin in my debate turned to me – she’s really good – Sarah Palin turned to me and she said ‘Well, I was only in second grade when Senator Biden was elected to the Senate.’ It’s true.”

Biden then wound up a one-liner and pitched it to the audience. “Well, I should have turned to her and said, Sarah, you were in sixth grade the last time John had a good idea.”

He got a standing ovation from supporters. It just so happens, Palin did not use the line about being in second grade in their debate, but at an earlier rally.

While Biden treads the line between directly criticizing Palin and using her to go after McCain, it’s clear he’s making an effort to acknowledge Palin in a joking only context.

“You can’t change, you can’t change your approach to global warming if, as my opponent said in our debate, and paraphrase her, she’s not quite sure what causes it,” Biden said to laughs from the audience in Missouri, and continued to impersonate Palin, saying, “'I don’t know how that happens.’ ‘I don’t know where it comes from.’ If you don’t know where the cause of the problem, how do you solve it?”

Later in Liberty, Mo., Biden joked. ”I understand that earlier this year your debate team, your debate team won the Missouri state championship here at William Jewell. I bet John McCain and Sarah Palin right now wish they had asked you for some tips.”

“I could use a few myself,” he added self-deprecatingly.
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by PulSamsara October 10, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.
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by pjc27 October 10, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
Step it up Biden, you you to bite some McCain/Palin rear. Take them out. Go Biden! Go Biden!
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by blindhowlin October 10, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
Got get her Joe, you treat a lady with respect, Palin is no lady.
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by bisbo11 October 10, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
Did anyone watch the debate? If Palin had as many mis-statements as Biden, the media would be eating her alive instead of turning a blind eye...

Biden said that McCain wanted to give oil companies a special tax break worth billions; in truth, they would merely benefit from a tax cut for all corporations. He said that Obama and he had each opposed the Bush administration on having elections in Palestine. Neither had. He denied saying that he opposed %u201Cclean coal%u201D; he said it. He said McCain was alone among Republicans in voting against a Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; the vast majority of Republican senators in fact voted with McCain. As President Ford %u201Cliberated%u201D eastern Europe, so Biden kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon %u2014 at least in his mind. And on, and on.
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by mswolfestock October 10, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
Joe, you''ll come out on top of any debate with Sara Palin.

You won''t have to go on the attack to make her look as stupid as she is.
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by jmcfarlin1 October 10, 2008 4:12 PM PDT
Anything goes now, If Ms. Palen can dish it out, she should be able to take anything that comes her way, after all she is a pit bull, pink pig with lipstick and soccer mom all rolled into one.
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by rsamps1 October 10, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
Palin is the sorriest excuse for a running mate since Spiro Agnew- go home Sarah, your family needs you, your country does not!
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by anotherview2-2009 October 10, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
Good tactic to demean her. If Palin were blond it would be perfect.

What this really means is that Biden doesn''t have anything of value to give the country. he wants to shut her down because someone is truly vetting Obama.
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by dexterinjp October 10, 2008 4:24 PM PDT
Why hasnt Slow Joe taken the time to explain anything about his 14 outright lies, not misstatements, that he used in the debate? Maybe Joe needs to go back to 2nd or 6th grade to learn some integrity. He hasn''t done anything in the Senate so he wouldnt be missing anything. Also, what has that Democratic Congress done in the last two years anyway. Sure didn''t do anything about Fannie and Freddie, EXCEPT take their money.
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by paris1969 October 10, 2008 4:26 PM PDT
If Obama wins ... Biden will have had nothing to do with it ... he just represents how sexist the Obama Campaign has been and continues to be!!!! Biden over Hillary .. puuuleze!!!!!!!!
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by mmstar20 October 10, 2008 4:28 PM PDT
Liberals are all bullies. They push for what they think is right, when in actuality it''s keeping the poor in their place and out of their own backyards. Just throw money at them - they''ll keep begging and we''ll continue to pillage the American workers of their hard earned money to ensure unwed mothers can have mutliple babies and not lift a finger to help herself.
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by osamaangry October 10, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
Sarah makes a good sportscaster and knows how to use the camera.
Otherwise she is a bimbo.

And I am so angry about Bin Laden still being out there.
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by jorjalex October 10, 2008 4:48 PM PDT
Dear Americans,

I am appalled and dismayed with our current Government for the Government and by the Government policy.

I ask you what is being done with all of issues occuring and reoccuring in our Nation and the policy makers are not working to safeguard our futures, nor the futures of our children?

Anwwer: Nothing!

Everything from energy to economics to edcuation and security to enviroment to social security to taxes, nothing is being done to help US, the American, the worker, the taxpayer, the Family.

Does anyone remember from American History class what happened to the
British Tax Collectors????

It''s time for tea my fellow American.

God bless you all. God save us and our Country!!!!
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by xtrapolitica October 10, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
Mtucker3, you''re doing a great job of discrediting yourself by disrespecting other people. There are diplomatic ways to convey your perspective so people can understand and benefit from the point you are "attempting" to communicate. America%u2019s condition is too dire for nonsense. It''s sad you have a constitutional right to express THIS opinion.
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by afsc30574 October 10, 2008 4:52 PM PDT
Sen. Obama is Jimmy Carter 2.0, and Sen. Biden is Walter Mondale 2.0. These two offer nothing except change for change''s sake. It''ll be 1976 all over again if they get elected.
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by mrtutto October 10, 2008 4:53 PM PDT


The way that the McCain/Palin are acting at their rallies reminds me of a Mussolini/Hitler ticket. There was never any doubt in my mind that McCain would totally lose everything he stood for AND lose an election. McCain/Palin have a real talent to make a lot of people vomit.
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by xtrapolitica October 10, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
Mtucker3, you''re doing a great job of discrediting yourself by disrespecting other people. There are diplomatic ways to convey your perspective so we can understand and benefit from the deeper point you are "attempting" to communicate--a perspective that could provide constructive insight to voters. America%u2019s current condition is too dire for nonsense. Hateful rhetoric is the unfortunate downside to free speech.
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by dan1967win October 10, 2008 5:12 PM PDT
Barack Obama will give tax breaks to people who make less then 250,000 dollars per year. Obama will get our country out of this mess in Iraq. McCain and Palin have NO plan for the economy and NO plan to end the war in Iraq. McCain and Palin are no different then Bush and Cheney. A Republican is a Republican. I don''t trust McCain and Palin.

VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA AND LETS GET A DEMOCRAT WIN IN NOVEMBER!
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by cacatua08 October 10, 2008 6:00 PM PDT
Face it - Palin is the comedy relief. Anyone who can''t answer a question like "What publications do you read?" without talking in circles and saying nothing has some sort of problem. That isn''t a "gotcha" question!

She obviously was woefully unprepared for accepting the VP appointment but too ambitious to have the wisdom to decline. Now she is saying borderline dangerous things that incite her "Joe Sixpacks", who''s idea of entertainment can be on the crude side, like harrassment and hate crimes.

Some of these people think it is OK to harrass women who go to clinics where abortions are done, to bomb these clinics, or shoot the doctors who perform legal abortions - all things that have happened when someone like Palin says words that incite certain people to do despicable things.

Then she is no longer funny. Be careful of baiting Sarahcuda, Joe. Her mouth might go off!

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by frita2 October 10, 2008 6:23 PM PDT
BushInASkirt.com

So sad. Palin is Bush in a Skirt and McCain is showing his anti-muslim colors.

I''m looking forward to seeing this chapter of ignorance ending.
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by mailani808 October 10, 2008 6:45 PM PDT
McCain=McBigot. Palin=Race Baiter. These people and their supporters show up to their recent rallies yelling "kill him (Obama)" and racial epithets as black people. Absolutely disgusting these desperate Republicans. How low can they go? Americans need to wake up and see what is going on - look at the Republican campaign rallies that recent bear an ugly resemblance to Ku Klux Klan gatherings. God help these people that they might regain some degree of civility.
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by dbstevens October 10, 2008 6:45 PM PDT
When Palin grows up, she might have the possibility of being a good politician, if she takes wise and slow steps and learns how to do the job. I do think she needs to change some of her backwoods views though, and learn hot NOT to shoot a gun and skin a moose. American''s do not need a moose on every table.
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by tscc2 October 10, 2008 6:59 PM PDT
Palin is a joke.
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by intankinated October 10, 2008 7:21 PM PDT
REMEMBER March 12, 2000?
According to OneAmerican7, I guess our current president is a terrorist too. "W" himself, as the Republican presidential candidate, met with Muslim leaders at a mosque in Tampa, FL.

Un-beknownst to "W" at the time, but known to FBI...there were Sami Al-Arian (tied to 1993 WTC bombing and member of Islamic Jihad) and Hassan Turabi (known supporter of Osama bin Laden/al-Qaida in the 1990s).

Bush accepted money and support from terrorists without realizing it. At least Hillary returned a $50,000 donation from the American Muslim alliance because she checked their web first.

Obama was criticized by American Muslims for not allowing Rep. Elliott, a Muslim, to speak at a rally. The American Muslim vote is important - it swung the state of Florida Bush''s way back in 2000. So it''s not unreasonable for the Obama campaign to send a representative to address their issues of racial profiling/ discrimination.

The real terrorists right now are the Wall Street fatcats, their political enablers, and Limbaughs/Coulters, etc who spew their agenda in order to get more readers/listerers.

Liberals,conservatives, who cares? We have Americans sleeping in tents, renters thrown out on the street because owners defaulted on mortgages...and now, in my home town...schoolkids who can''t afford lunches. The MCain/Palin machine could be constructively addressing the issues but instead they attack...I hope their ranting won''t incite violence...but it probably will.



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by demsmustwin October 10, 2008 7:59 PM PDT
Only in a free democratic society like America could someone as dumb as Sarah Palin be selected for his running mate as vice president by a much admired war hero like John McCain -- and let''s not forget the five long tortuous years he spent in a bamboo cell as a prisoner of war. It sounds more like a comedy that someone in Hollywood wrote and made a big hit at the box office. I''m beginning to feel sorry for Sarah Palin, she honestly does not realize just how arrogant, ill-prepared and self-serving she is, and how many lies she is trying to pass off as the truth. Even McCain is trying to calm her down at rallies. If he can''t do it, nobody can. What a mess!I hope when this election is over, John McCain will realize that in the hearts of America, we will always love him as a war hero, he just did not have what it takes in 2008 to be our president, especially with Sarah "Tasergate" Palin.
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by vote4safeusa October 10, 2008 8:44 PM PDT
1) Palin is not a joke.
2) I beleive this race bitterness was brought on by "the people".
**Joe Biden is a good man and
Sarah Palin is a good women.

3)We are voting for President!
-I think that the questions about BO''s past are fair questions.
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by keljacks2 October 10, 2008 8:53 PM PDT
"It will be all over in the Morning" I''m talking about Palin''s political career. She has proven the states case with her badgering interviews, lies and deception. Her character clearly proves a women who would be vendictive to fire monegon because he wouldn''t fire Wooten. I know Romney and the other GOP who thought McCain would pick them are laughing. McCain is going down in history as giving the presidental election away
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by boswed October 10, 2008 9:16 PM PDT
Obama if he wins is going to have to tell everyone that all his big plans are off at least for a few years. He will say no tax cuts, Washington needs the revenue, no health care plan, war in Iraq will continue for a couple of more years but we will ramp up Afghanistan, no nothing except some nice speeches about being sympathetic. Free trade will be determined to be good actually so there will be no renegotiation but the Daley machne will move into the White House and the spoils will be distributed
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by joelewiz75 October 10, 2008 10:10 PM PDT
The Genie is out the bottle.. question is how do you get him back in? The governor and VP candidate, according to the Alaskan Republican Legisture, broke the law. What a shame, Swiftboat express has just capsized.
First Wall Street blows up, then his campaign rally crowds blow up and now the last vestiges of credibility blows up...
Change we need, not change for the worse!
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by newslink October 10, 2008 10:40 PM PDT
Now I hear the Vice President Talking. I knew that Biden would come through. I am so proud of him.
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by farmasyst October 10, 2008 10:48 PM PDT
Someone should at least criticize Sara palin for naming her Downs Syndrome child after a mathematical concept that the child will never understand.
Anyway, she''s a joke.
Truth be told, Tim Pawlenty was offered the VP nomination, but turned it down becuase the "timing wasn''t right."
Smart man, Pawlenty. He''ll be running in 2012 or ''16.
As for Sara Pailskin, is this the 2nd best the Republicans have to offer? She''s the stupidest box around, with th epossible exception of kellyfromsp
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by farmasyst October 10, 2008 10:55 PM PDT
Oh, I apologize.I didnt mean kellyfromsp. I meant to refer to the vote4safeusa.....Sorry, kelly.
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by billturetsky October 10, 2008 11:25 PM PDT
"3)We are voting for President!"

That''s more than naive - actually STUPID - the VP BECOMES President - and in this case a *** good chance it would happen.
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by hungry4goodg October 11, 2008 12:47 AM PDT
Sarah''s own words are painting an increasingly ugly self-portrait. Americans aren''t fooled. We know why Sarah has become even more sarcastic and nasty...as her poll numbers drop. Sarah has been amusing to gossip about, but as Sarah becomes more and more bitter...her entertainment value falls and Sarah herself becomes more and more stale...another of Sen. McCain''s failed publicity stunts.
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by cb089 October 11, 2008 1:13 AM PDT
Wall Street Journal called Joe Biden a PNONY liar:
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During the VP debate watched by 70 million viewers, Joe Biden "invited Americans to join him at Katie''s restaurant in Wilmington to witness middle-class struggles. Just one problem: KATIE''S CLOSED IN THE 1980s. The mistake is more than a memory lapse because IT EXPOSES HOW PHONY IS MR. BIDEN''S attempt to pose for this campaign as Lunchbucket Joe."
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Palin should mention the WSJ article in one of her speeches... "I read in the WSJ that..."
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More Biden lies and/or "memory lapses" below:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122325448093406451.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/usnews/whispers/main4505101.shtml
http://newsok.com/bidens-boo-boos-misstatements-mar-debate-performance/article/3308160
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by noamnestymc October 11, 2008 1:54 AM PDT
"It will be all over in the Morning" I''''m talking about Palin''''s political career. She has proven the states case with her badgering interviews, lies and deception. Her character clearly proves a women who would be vendictive to fire monegon because he wouldn''''t fire Wooten. I know Romney and the other GOP who thought McCain would pick them are laughing. McCain is going down in history as giving the presidental election away
Posted by kellyfromsp at 08:53 PM : Oct 10, 2008
**** I agree with your post! I think the republicans gave away this election, especially after nominating the guy that co-sponsored an amnesty bill with teddy kennedy. If amnesty mccain was smart, Romney could have put Michigan in play, instead, they now pulled out of michigan. Amnesty Mccains one chance to win the election between now and Nov 4th, would be to sign a pledge that no illegal immigrant than came into this country illegally would given amnesty/citizenship! Palin is a joke, she abused power! Amnesty Mccain stole the republican nomination. I could have stomached a president Romney or Huckabee... but never president amnesty Juan Mccain! I am a former Republican turned Democrat because of Amnesty Mccain supporting illegal mexicans more than he supports americans!
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by Blondshag October 11, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
Someone is kidding America.

Obama has always put himself above all....even America.

Biden was only waiting for the right time to break out if fork tounge..and turn into the real person that Biden is.

OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE ONE IN THE SAME...EGO ABOVE AMERICA. NOT COMMITTED TO AMERICA EITHER.

TIME for John McCain and Sarah Palin to "REFORM WASHINGTON GOVERNMENT!"

America is not the warehouse for AMERICA SOCIALISM. Socialism does not work!

Finally, it is time for America to WAKE-UP about BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
WONDER WHY OBAMA --- DOES NOT USE HIS REAL NAME. That answer in itself will answer Why-Barack Hussein Obama is not the president for America.

Obama is not Committed to America.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is committed to WHO? You got it!

GO----JOHN MCCAIN!!!

GO----SARAH PALIN!!!

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by Blondshag October 11, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
Someone is kidding America.

Obama has always put himself above all....even America.

Biden was only waiting for the right time to break out if fork tounge..and turn into the real person that Biden is.

OBAMA AND BIDEN ARE ONE IN THE SAME...EGO ABOVE AMERICA. NOT COMMITTED TO AMERICA EITHER.

TIME for John McCain and Sarah Palin to "REFORM WASHINGTON GOVERNMENT!"

America is not the warehouse for AMERICA SOCIALISM. Socialism does not work!

Finally, it is time for America to WAKE-UP about BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
WONDER WHY OBAMA --- DOES NOT USE HIS REAL NAME. That answer in itself will answer Why-Barack Hussein Obama is not the president for America.

Obama is not Committed to America.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is committed to WHO? You got it!

GO----JOHN MCCAIN!!!

GO----SARAH PALIN!!!

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by lillietoo October 11, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
I''m a female myself, and none of the comments this article attributes to Senator Biden is even remotely condescending or disrespectful. And not only does any reasonable voter who has witnessed Palin''s performance in interviews and the debate agree with Biden''s assessment of her skills, but his comments significantly pale in the light of the fear-inspiring, racially-tinged, red-meat hatred Palin has been spewing for the last week.
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by lillietoo October 11, 2008 3:11 PM PDT
I''m a female myself, and none of the comments this article attributes to Senator Biden is even remotely condescending or disrespectful. And not only does any reasonable voter who has witnessed Palin''s performance in interviews and the debate agree with Biden''s assessment of her skills, but his comments significantly pale in the light of the fear-inspiring, racially-tinged, red-meat hatred Palin has been spewing for the last week.
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by intankinated October 11, 2008 7:32 PM PDT
Strange how you can always pick out the McCain/Palin supporters from these blogs. They pop off catchy taglines from TV commercials, and like their heroes - paint their verbage with shallow claims and no specifics.

Blondshag, do your homework. Mccain was involved in the Lincoln Savings & Loan scandal that brought him before the Senate Ethics Committee, while his buddy (Keating) spent time in jail. The man has 7 houses, and his wife attends rallies dressed in $300,000 outfits (including jewelry). He''s aligned himself with Bush for the last 8 years - our soldiers are still dying in the sand, the economy is in shambles, and all the right wingers can do is point the finger away from themselves. Well even Palin had the courage to say all administrations make huge blunders.

Likewise, Palin is in the hot seat for abusing her powers as governor, her family are multi-millionaires who have donated a mere 1.5% to charity in the last two years. She and Todd were members of a political action group (Alaskan Independence Party) whose purpose was to secede from the US. Let''s check out those ties.

These two are going to reform American? Laughable. Although I respect McCain for his service to our country, his selection of Palin is the biggest elephant joke of all time.

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by reuelt October 12, 2008 6:17 PM PDT
Let me put it this way:-
Biblical Daniel became ruler by simply surviving the "Lions den". As I used to sing the Sunday school song (Daniel was a man of Prayer):-"God just shut the lions'' mouth so they could not harm him".


If Biden "the lion", could not "eat" up a "christian lady" in that debate, then the VOTERS are ready to make that lady the Vice President.

The "lion" can now roar and show his teeth all day long - it doesn''t matter. But just feed him some red meat.


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