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September 9, 2008 8:13 PM

Obama Says McCain-Palin Proposals Are Like Putting "Lipstick on a Pig"

(CBS)
From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(LEBANON, Va.) Barack Obama used an analogy tonight as he explained why the McCain-Palin campaign doesn’t represent change, setting off supporters of Sarah Palin, who suggested Obama was being sexist.

He started out with his standard stump: “John McCain says he’s about change too and so I guess his whole angle is ‘watch out George Bush - except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education, policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove style politics – we’re really gonna shake things up in Washington.’ That’s not change.”

But then Obama interjected a little humor into his argument, “That’s just calling something the same thing, something different. But you know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”

And as the crowd laughed, he added, “You can you can, wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it’s still going to stink after 8 years. We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

Just moments after the comments, the Republicans held their first ever “Truth Squad” call to condemn the remarks.

Former Massachusetts Governor Jane Swift, interpreted Obama’s remarks to mean that he called Palin a “pig” and McCain an “old fish.”

When pressed on why she assumed that Obama was comparing Palin to a pig, Swift referred to Palin’s “pit bull in lipstick” joke at the convention. She added, "as far as I know she is the only candidate that wears lipstick" and this "seems like a very gendered remark."

Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs responded, "Please. That's ridiculous."
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by September 9, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
Putting lipstick on a pig is an expression that''s been around for a long time. Geez, McCain, you old slump... check an urban dictionary or two if you want to keep up with current expressions. Hockey Mom''s speechwriters didn''t "invent" the line... they just altered it. Obama was using the more traditional expression... which seems appropriate considering we''re always talking about PORK spending.
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by newz4i September 9, 2008 8:54 PM PDT
Republicans have a "truth squad"?

You''re kidding me.

The value of truth starts in the home. Hmm, and they''re going after Obama????
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by jimk2you September 9, 2008 9:06 PM PDT
Wow...how funny... yawn...
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by ukoooo September 9, 2008 9:26 PM PDT
it''d be stupid if you REALLY think this is used as a common phase. I mean, honestly, do you really see it without context???
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by ukoooo September 9, 2008 9:27 PM PDT
it''d be stupid if you REALLY think this is used as a common phase. I mean, honestly, do you really see it without context???
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by ukoooo September 9, 2008 9:29 PM PDT
it''d be stupid if you REALLY think this is used as a common phase. I mean, honestly, do you really see it without context???
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by democrat-sf September 9, 2008 9:33 PM PDT
Wow...very insensitive...and am surprised because Obama usually thinks before he speaks...

Many people I spoke with saw a direct link between "Pig" and Palin; and between an "Old Fish" and McCain.

I think Obama just lost another million women''s votes...
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by writtentruth September 9, 2008 9:34 PM PDT
Barack Obama is always too generous. This is about the nicest thing anyone could say about McCain''s policies or character.
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by jayceer2 September 9, 2008 9:35 PM PDT
Maybe the expression has been around a long time, though not in Obama''s upbringing. And if you see the video, you know *** well he''s referring to Palin. Obama is getting desperate.
By the way, real1413, you''re a chauvinist pig.
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by dburfears September 9, 2008 9:45 PM PDT
Barack Obama told an audience Tuesday that GOP presidential nominee John McCain says he''ll change Washington, but he''s just like President Bush. "You can put lipstick on a pig," he said. "It''s still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It''s still going to stink after eight years."
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So where is this talking about Palin?

The GOP is SO VERY GOOD AT DISTORTION and creating FALSE ISSUES.

WHY? This is the only thing the Republicans can RUN ON. They''ve screwed up the country so badly they need distractions. SO THEY MANUFACTURE THEM.

Karl Rove is at work again. Total slime.

Republicans should be ASAHMED.
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by puma2012 September 9, 2008 10:09 PM PDT
It''s completely obvious what this cretin was referring to. And no, he is not able to think at all. He can''t even speak unless he is reading from a teleprompter. This idiot just lost another 1/2 of the Hillary supporters. Let''s put some lipstick and paint on him and make his image as a clown complete!
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by bhappy2-2 September 9, 2008 10:11 PM PDT
At least McCain/ Palin have proposals. All Osama talks about is "change", but he never talks of WHAT will change. I wonder why not? Perhaps his "change" is really WORSE!
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by gwjackie September 9, 2008 10:14 PM PDT
Ican not believe these Republinans they are like little crybaby school kids.
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by jaw3126 September 9, 2008 10:18 PM PDT
Obama has hit an all time low with that pig comment! He must feel real threatened by the presence of a woman, he is so worried about making Sarah Palin look bad, he doesn''t even see that his child like name calling makes him look bad! Is this the type of man we want running our country? NO!! We don''t want any man who feels threatened by a woman to be the Commander in Chief.
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by gwjackie September 9, 2008 10:19 PM PDT
They are all cry babies if he had called her a dog which she said that was the only difference was lipstick they would have whined about that to.
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by puma2012 September 9, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
I am sure that he called Hillary worse things behind her back, he just didn''t have the guts to say it in public. I think that he is going to be the one sqealing in November when he loses.
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by gwjackie September 9, 2008 10:23 PM PDT
This is Karl Rove this is what he does best.
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by rhunter10 September 9, 2008 10:32 PM PDT
I have a real hard time believing that Sen. Obama would compare Ms. Palin to a pig. I think he respects pigs.
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by jamescb70 September 9, 2008 10:35 PM PDT
What he meant to say was, "you can put lipstick on a woman and it''s still a woman." No big deal, right?
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by jfrost1300 September 9, 2008 10:36 PM PDT
Oh Please, Putting lipstick on a pig is an old saying...look it up.
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by rhunter10 September 9, 2008 10:38 PM PDT
"Let''''s put some lipstick and paint on him and make his image as a clown complete!"

Posted by PUMA2012

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You are advocating a physical assault on a presidential candidate. I think you are dangerous and someone should alert the Secret Service that you are soliciting assault and battery against a U. S. Senator and candidate.
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by navvet2 September 9, 2008 10:44 PM PDT
Open mouth, insert foot. I hope those old socks taste good because you are never going to hear the end of this.
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by rhunter10 September 9, 2008 10:48 PM PDT
"I am sure that he called Hillary worse things behind her back, he just didn''''t have the guts to say it in public."
Posted by PUMA2012

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Actually it was John McCain who used that phrase about Hillary Clinton while attacking her health care proposal last year. So where were all these offended Republicons then? Hypocrites, sick shameless hypocrites, with NO moral values.
McCain calls his own wife a c***, and you should see the clips on YouTube where he attacks women with streams of foul language that no decent man would dare use in or out of the public eye. There''s your pig!
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by syalr September 9, 2008 10:59 PM PDT
It is an old saying, but he should have thought about it before he said it. If it was not an intentional dig then maybe he is not as bright as people say. How could he not have seen how this would be interpreted? Either way it is a disgusting comment. The "old saying" usually refers to a woman. Robert Gibbs'' dismissal of the comment is just idiotic. If Obama really meant no personal insult to Palin then Gibbs should have said so.
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by tested1 September 9, 2008 11:00 PM PDT
I thought you Neo cons would be saying that this is an old joke or something, because it has been used in politics for decades. However you think you can fool someone int voting for you if you throw a hissyfit. But, I am forgetting that you all say George Bush is a good president, when he is probably the worst of all time. Anyway, everyone realizes that you republicans have no decency, and you''ll try to get votes from anything, 9/11, racism, a disabled child, dead soldiers, and the list goes on. And you call yourselves "Patriots" - my God have some shame!!
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by syalr September 9, 2008 11:00 PM PDT
It is an old saying, but he should have thought about it before he said it. If it was not an intentional dig then maybe he is not as bright as people say. How could he not have seen how this would be interpreted? Either way it is a disgusting comment. The "old saying" usually refers to a woman. Robert Gibbs'' dismissal of the comment is just idiotic. If Obama really meant no personal insult to Palin then Gibbs should have said so.
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by syalr September 9, 2008 11:02 PM PDT
Yeah it''s an "old saying", one usually used to disparage women. How is that any kind of explanation? If it was not an intentional dig then maybe he is not as bright as people say. How could he not have seen how this would be interpreted? Either way it is a disgusting comment. Robert Gibbs'' dismissal of the comment is just idiotic. If Obama really meant no personal insult to Palin then Gibbs should have said so.
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by shingles1 September 9, 2008 11:05 PM PDT
If you haven''t heard the phrase "putting lipstick on a pig" before, you clearly need to get out more. It''s an old old phrase, ask your grandparents about it. Not bizarre at all.

Here''s McCain referring to Hilary''s health care plan:

%u201CI think they put some lipstick on a pig,%u201D he said, %u201Cbut it%u2019s still a pig.%u201D

Now, all you fake outraged people - was McCain calling Hilary a pig?

One more - McCain''s former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era."

Just another case of ginned up fake controversy.

And Jane Swift is a moron, by the ways. Here''s more from her clueless exchange today:

A reporter then reminded Swift that in December, McCain was asked about criticisms coming his way from then-opponent Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., and McCain replied, "Never get into a wrestling match with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."

Was McCain calling Romney a pig? a reporter asked Swift.

Of course not, Swift said.
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by boycot-china September 9, 2008 11:09 PM PDT
Who is Barak Obama? He''s an ambitious politician - unwilling to take the time and patience to build a national reputation as an experienced leader (eighteen months in the US Senate?). He''s unprincipled - has takes multiple positions on many issues. Sometimes untruthful - he lied about his tolerance of Rev. Wright''s message and his position on infanticide in the Illinois legislature. Very arrogant - his comments about gun owners and people of faith (San Fran. fund-raiser). He''s an Elitist and unconcerned - refusal to see our troops on his European tour. Accepting of the liberal theology taught at Trinity Church. It''s a quasi-communist perversion of Christianity (remember the Sandinistas?) Unusual in family practices (not giving presents for birthdays or Christmas). Indecisive - (did the surge work in Iraq? What would you do in Georgia?) Wishy-washy (nuanced) on everything (Saddleback Forum) to hide his true beliefs. HYPOCRITE OBAMA! HE REALLY LET US DOWN! WHAT OTHER LIES IS HE GOING TO SPREAD NOW? HE PROMISED CHANGE, BUT WHO REALLY LOOKED OUT OF THE BOX? SENATOR CLINTON DEMOCRATS FOR CHANGE AND FOR SENATOR MCCAIN!
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by rhunter10 September 9, 2008 11:11 PM PDT
"Yeah it''''s an "old saying", one usually used to disparage women. How is that any kind of explanation? If it was not an intentional dig then maybe he is not as bright as people say. How could he not have seen how this would be interpreted? Either way it is a disgusting comment."

Posted by syalr

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So lipstick on a pitbull dog is ''okay'' but lipstick on a pig isn''t? Comparing a woman to a dog is okay? Hypocrites, your values stink!
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by libsluv2spit September 9, 2008 11:18 PM PDT
obama cant even bring in a ''pig'' because he thinks the ''white man'' took it from him..
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by shingles1 September 9, 2008 11:23 PM PDT
By the ways, in the way that Obama is using this metaphor, McCain and Palin are the lipstick while Bush''s policies are the pig.
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by shingles1 September 9, 2008 11:25 PM PDT
libsluv2spit, that doesn''t even make any sense.
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by nwturtle September 9, 2008 11:34 PM PDT
BS, just out of curiosity, did you suggest that McCain was using a "bizarre analogy" when he used the "lipstick on a pig" phrase? This looks like biased journalism, and not the sort McCain complains about.
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by nwturtle September 9, 2008 11:36 PM PDT
BS, just out of curiosity, did you suggest that McCain was using a "bizarre analogy" when he used the "lipstick on a pig" phrase? This looks like biased journalism, and not the sort McCain complains about.
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by nwturtle September 9, 2008 11:38 PM PDT
BS, just out of curiosity, did you suggest that McCain was using a "bizarre analogy" when he used the "lipstick on a pig" phrase? This looks like biased journalism, and not the sort McCain complains about.
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by nwturtle September 9, 2008 11:41 PM PDT
BS, just out of curiosity, did you suggest that McCain was using a "bizarre analogy" when he used the "lipstick on a pig" phrase? This looks like biased journalism, and not the sort McCain complains about.
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by shingles1 September 9, 2008 11:44 PM PDT
aothah is another shining example of our failing public school system.
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by ranakarimi September 9, 2008 11:47 PM PDT
%u201CYou can put lipstick on a pig, but it%u2019s still a pig%u201D? I wonder, is this the same sentiment he holds towards all women and is this the attitude he held towards Hillary during the primaries, who he%u2019s still encouraging to be his attack dog towards Gov. Palin.

Obamas beginning to sound like a desperate and pathetic little man with his back to the wall. It appears he will say and do anything to get elected. I wonder if he regards his wife and his little girls as pigs as well? He certainly doesn%u2019t have a high opinion of women, does he? in behalf of millions of hard working american women and Hillary supporters we are going to punish our party and elect republican president no way obama
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by jennk555 September 10, 2008 12:18 AM PDT
Oh, come on. Some of the Republicans on here are being extremely disingenuous. And I guess all of you were up in arms when McCain used the same phrase regarding Sen. Clinton? Yeah, something tells me that''s not the case.

Gov. Palin did not invent the word "lipstick." The McCain campaign is reaching on this. And here''s a little newsflash, just because you don''t know that this phrase is extremely common doesn''t mean that it isn''t. I''ve heard this phrase millions of times, especially in politics. And it is absolutely not a gender-related statement.

And come on, Republicans advocated women''s issues is totally ridiculous.
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by jennk555 September 10, 2008 12:19 AM PDT
Oh, come on. Some of the Republicans on here are being extremely disingenuous. And I guess all of you were up in arms when McCain used the same phrase regarding Sen. Clinton? Yeah, something tells me that''s not the case.

Gov. Palin did not invent the word "lipstick." The McCain campaign is reaching on this. And here''s a little newsflash, just because you don''t know that this phrase is extremely common doesn''t mean that it isn''t. I''ve heard this phrase millions of times, especially in politics. And it is absolutely not a gender-related statement.

And come on, Republicans advocated women''s issues is totally ridiculous.
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by greenfun September 10, 2008 12:20 AM PDT
BO looks so HOT!
http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y144/12659/Hillary/NObama/?action=view&current=Pig-Barack-Obama--36545LIPSTICK.jpg
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by fairbear11 September 10, 2008 12:47 AM PDT
From all the accounts I have read of what Obama said, he only mentioned McCain. Thus the headline ''Obama says McCain-Palin Proposals Are Like Putting "Lipstick on a Pig"'' is irresponsible journalism. Why is CBS fanning the flames?
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by kare74 September 10, 2008 12:58 AM PDT
Why do you find the use of the phrase bizarre? It means they''re putting fancy dressing on a bad policy.

So, what''s problem here?
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by elugens September 10, 2008 1:36 AM PDT
Go To this Link to see the rest of the Story:

"Squeal Like a Pig"


http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/obama_did_not_call_sarah_palin.php
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by dxbd September 10, 2008 2:03 AM PDT
For those who need confirmation that this is an old and well-used phrase, by politicialns and journalists here is a link:

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0408a&L=ads-l&P=14910
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by truebluematador September 10, 2008 2:07 AM PDT
McCain used the pig with lipstick joke on Clinton first. Let''s get this one right. McCain''s Truth Squad are using Rove like tactics on Obama. Here''s the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w
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by truebluematador September 10, 2008 2:09 AM PDT
McCain used the pig with lipstick joke on Clinton first. Let''s get this one right. McCain''s Truth Squad are using Rove like tactics on Obama. Here''s the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w
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by truebluematador September 10, 2008 2:10 AM PDT
McCain used the pig with lipstick joke on Clinton first. Let''s get this one right. McCain''s Truth Squad are using Rove like tactics on Obama. Here''s the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w
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by mediaspy_nv September 10, 2008 3:07 AM PDT
Hey, I say way to go Obama! It''s about time! If the snout fits....:)
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