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September 9, 2008 5:20 PM

Where They Stand: Your Taxes

[Editor's note: Tonight, we're beginning series of in-depth stories that we'll be airing about twice a week until Election Day. Each will focus on one major issue that affects Americans – from health care to the environment to education. It's called "Where They Stand," and is designed to help see straight through the rhetoric and find out what impact each candidate's plan would actually have on you. Tonight, Anthony Mason has our first installment, and it's about something that hits every American's wallet … and on which Obama and McCain differ significantly: taxes. Correspondent Anthony Mason contributed this post about his report for tonight's Evening News.]
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We headed to Ohio, a critical battleground state, to look at the tax issue. Polls show the race there is in a statistical dead heat.

We spent three days there, driving from Columbus to Dayton to Cincinnati – all to spend time with three different families. Their incomes ranged from $32,000 to $213,000. We found them with a little help from the Ohio Society of CPAs, so we could see how the candidate’s tax proposals could affect a cross section of Americans.

Kendra Foos, a mother of three in Miamisburg, Ohio, summed up what a lot of middle income taxpayers seem to be feeling: “We’re on our own. That’s how I feel. There isn’t anybody that’s rooting for us. [They think] we’re the ones in the middle that can take care of themselves.” As she sat around the kitchen table with her husband Andy, a construction manager, Kendra said, “We're the ones that seem to struggle the most, because we don’t have any type of program to help us. And the rich are doing just fine.”

All three families we talked with felt squeezed by the economy, which polls show is the most important issue in the state. Ohio has lost 200,000 jobs this decade. Second only to Michigan. Joi Beacham, a teacher from Pataskala, summed up what she wanted from the next president in one word: "Relief."

In “Where They Stand” on the Evening News tonight, we lay out both candidates proposals. Matt Yuskewich, a Columbus accountant, crunched the numbers for us to show what it would mean for our three Ohio families. And in doing that, we hope it will show you a pretty good estimate what it could mean for your tax bill. So, join us – and let us know what you think. There are plenty more issues to come – so stay tuned for those, too.
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by Screenwriter40 September 11, 2008 3:16 PM EDT
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by calkinsam September 11, 2008 3:42 AM EDT
I was actually very interested in the story. I thought it was a great idea. I did want actual figures for the family that makes 213+ rather than some hypothetical amount. I agree with the Foos family it seems like those of us in the middle are screwed again.
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by mcbelle10 September 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
This report was biased against Oboma. The reporter did his best to show Oboma''s tax plan as unfavorable. Even though Obama''s tax plan raises taxes for those making $250K and the top-earning family in this story earned $213, the reported calculated their taxes as though they made $250K ($37K increase). He also suggested to the middle class family that Oboma''s tax plan would not help them much over McCain/Bush''.
I had hoped to watch CBS to support Katie''s ratings. But I was turned off by the very biased reporting.
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by bromleywoods September 10, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
I seldom watch CBS news but did so last night upon hearing that the first in a series of reports devoted to where the candidates stand on the issues would begin. I was anticipating getting sound information regarding income taxes, but I was sorely disappointed. The comparison of the first two families made sense, but I never learned how the $224,000 family would fare; instead, Mason speculated what would happen under the Obama plan if that family''s income increased. The report provided little concrete information; surely an organization as rich as CBS could do the research necessary to provide viewers with substantial concrete, unbiased information regarding the candidates'' positions on the issues.
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by tree44327 September 10, 2008 3:29 AM EDT
Thanks to everyone that commented. CBS Credibility is on the line. A professional retraction and clarifying Evening News piece is in order - seriously, ask Mr. Cronkite for guidance. Big mistakes on this piece and you know it.
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by djmclg September 10, 2008 1:20 AM EDT
There is a serious flaw with this news story. When the story drifted and said how much will Wilson family might pay under a hypothetical situation, you lost all credibility. Put the numbers out and let them tell the story. If you knew the numbers, why didn''''t you report the facts instead of adding a hypothetical situation where they may earn more?

Please put out a chart where it has one the screen:

McCain Plan Obama Plan
Family A
Family B
Family C

Shame on you Anthony Mason for leading us to believe that this would be a fact based story. It changed to a "what if" story, and now we don''''t know what the Wilsons tax would be under the McCain plan or the Obama plan at their current salary.

Please publish a clarification on this on the Wednesday evening news with Katie Couric on CBS with the current salaries and tax impact for each family similar to the chart above. Just the facts are what we need to help us make the decision.

Thanks.
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by pfrantz42 September 10, 2008 1:20 AM EDT
I am fortunate enough to understand the tax code sufficiently to know your portrayal of Obama''s tax plan is not correct. Others including ebaytrk,GSnyder8, and thinkingdem apparently also caught your misleading report. Taxes are paid bracket by bracket. Everyone pays the same on each bracket. Whether you make $50,000 or $500,000 you pay the same on the first $15,650 if married filing jointly. You would pay 15% on every dollar over $15,650 but not over $63,700. Regarding the couple in question, if they are in the 28% bracket, they will still pay 28% on all income to the top of that bracket. They will only pay the 36% on income over the top of the 28% bracket. In the current economy, it is very possible they will not make more money next year. Why was this assumed for this couple and not the others? Is it too much to expect that this couple pay a few hundred dollars more if they make over $250,000 in taxable income and their income is going up in these tough economic times?
I think this topic needs a correction on the evening news. It misled a lot of people and may affect the way they vote. This important election should not be influenced by misinformation from a major national news outlet. The preparers of the story apparently did not understand the tax code and the vast majority of Americans also do not. As a result many viewers will not know this information was not correct. That is why you must correct your story on air!
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by billpatti September 10, 2008 1:07 AM EDT
Your tax comparison between McCain & Obama was "incorrect" in one aspect. You said correctly that McCain would make the tax cuts permanent. But you failded to mention that before applying Obama''s tax incentives, he would reinstate the pre-Bush taxes, which were higher for all incomes, even for the lower and middle class tax-payers. This would make the total taxes each group would pay under Obama much higher than under McCain''s plan.
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by oreo012003 September 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
Wow, I''m going to stop working!!! The one family didn''t pay a dime and received a nice check. Then they are going to get free college on the people that actually pays taxes. History will repeat itself by showing how a democracy will bankrupt itself, because the masses will vote for the politicians that promise them the most.
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by ebaytrk September 9, 2008 10:43 PM EDT
Comment on %u201CWhere They Stand%u201D on the Evening News tonight. This was completely inaccurate reporting.
You did not analyze the $213,000 income family the same as the other 2 family''s income. You based it on some "future growth of his business", and cited a tax increase. You wouldn''t even say what it was. His business could just as easily go down in this economy. This was a completely misleading analysis and you are doing the public a tremendous dis-service. Is there no news network with enough backbone to report accurately anymore.
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by gsnyder8 September 9, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
The above comments (thinkingdem) regarding the inaccurate representation of the tax code described on tonight''s program are right on:
If the $213,000/yr families income increased to $252,000 a year and the $250,000 bracket increased from 33% to 36%, their taxes would NOT increase by 3% as was shamelessly implied on the program. Their taxes would go up by 3% on the $2,000 more than $250,000. An increase of a whopping $160.

This was not an innocent mistake because the accountants were certainly aware of this (which is why the actual numbers were omitted)

As an individual who is lucky enough to have an income over $300,000 what is important to me is that our country stops being drastically mismanaged, so that once again my stock portfolio will go up instead of down, and the value of the dollar will increase so that every thing I buy is not more expensive. It doesn''t matter if your save a $1000 dollars on your taxes if you have to spend $5,000/year more on gas, groceries, and goods because the failed economic policies of your government have made each dollar you have worth less.
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by gsnyder8 September 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT
The above comments (thinkingdem) regarding the inaccurate representation of the tax code described on tonight''s program are right on:
If the $213,000/yr families income increased to $252,000 a year and the $250,000 bracket increased from 33% to 36%, their taxes would NOT increase by 3% as was shamelessly implied on the program. Their taxes would go up by 3% on the $2,000 more than $250,000. An increase of a whopping $160.

This was not an innocent mistake because the accountants were certainly aware of this (which is why the actual numbers were omitted)

As an individual who is lucky enough to have an income over $300,000 what is important to me is that our country stops being drastically mismanaged, so that once again my stock portfolio will go up instead of down, and the value of the dollar will increase so that every thing I buy is not more expensive. It doesn''t matter if your save a $1000 dollars on your taxes if you have to spend $5,000/year more on gas, groceries, and goods because the failed economic policies of your government have made each dollar you have worth less.
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by thinkingdem September 9, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
RE: Candidate taxes plans...

Good idea - But you got it wrong!

FYI: Any increase in the ''bracket'' rate only applies to the income falling within that bracket...

This means what you pay the lower rate bracket by bracket until you reach the highest...

Hence, the highest earners in your piece''s example would NOT have had their income tax rate increase given their current income of $213K - By contrast it would have remained at 28% for that portion of their income exceeding the 15% rate cap (and excluding any new deductions that they might receive)

Hence your analysis was JUST PLAIN WRONG and further it made an assumption about the highest level earners that you did not apply to the other families (that they would reach the higher 33% rate through an increase in their total income)...

Do it right or don''t do it at all...
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by incredulous1 September 9, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
I was absolutely disgusted by this piece...and the thing that disgusted me was the fact that CBS chose to use a black family to represent the lowest income and white families for the other two categories. Grow up CBS...we are not all as stupid as you treat us. I am not a black person, but I was extremely offended by the blatant racism in this portrayal of income levels. The not so subtle message behind this piece was to communicate to Americans that Obama is going to take money away from white people and give it to black people. I know plenty of poor white folks who will equally benefit from his tax cuts, and a good deal of those poor white folks are the elderly, people that the Republican party has disenfranchised and left out in the cold...literally. Not everyone who is white is in the middle or upper income levels, and your use of race in this piece was deceptive, selfish, and misleading...I would venture to say intentionally so.
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by incredulous1 September 9, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
I was absolutely disgusted by this piece...and the thing that disgusted me was the fact that CBS chose to use a black family to represent the lowest income and white families for the other two categories. Grow up CBS...we are not all as stupid as you treat us. I am not a black person, but I was extremely offended by the blatant racism in this portrayal of income levels. The not so subtle message behind this piece was to communicate to Americans that Obama is going to take money away from white people and give it to black people. I know plenty of poor white folks who will equally benefit from his tax cuts, and a good deal of those poor white folks are the elderly, people that the Republican party has disenfranchised and left out in the cold...literally. Not everyone who is white is in the middle or upper income levels, and your use of race in this piece was deceptive, selfish, and misleading...I would venture to say intentionally so.
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by chesbay10 September 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
I dont see anything on taxe breaks from either side for the close to or in middle class income levels without children. Its like those people are punished in taxes without breaks because they have no children to get tax credit. Not everyone has children but they are hard working and seem to pay the most in taxes no matter what income level.
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