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September 5, 2008 2:47 PM

Obama: "We're Not Going To Mess With" Americans' Guns

(CBS)
From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(DURYEA, PA.) It’s been almost 6 months since Obama suggested that people cling to guns because they are bitter, a.k.a. “bitter-gate,” but he is still plagued by questions about his position on gun control. At a town hall meeting today, a voter told Obama that there are rumors that he is going to take away guns. “People love hunting,” the man told Obama.

Obama said he is aware that the issue is being “peddled again and again,” but he assured the crowd that he will not take away guns that are legally obtained.

“I believe in the Second Amendment, and if you are a law-abiding gun owner, you have nothing to fear from an Obama administration!”

Obama said his support for gun safety measures – such as background checks- does not mean that he opposes all gun ownership.

“Now, the NRA sometimes... their general attitude is look, we don’t want anything, and if you even breathe the word ‘gun control’ or ‘gun safety,’ then you must want to take away everybody’s guns. Well, that’s just not true,” he said adding that illegal guns are his concern, not those used for sportsmanship.

He also keenly noted that even if he intended to take away guns, he would not have the power to do so as president. “I couldn’t get it done. I don’t have the votes in Congress.”

As he wrapped up his rather lengthy explanation, Obama urged the crowd to look at his policies on the economy and health care rather than gun control.

“This can’t be the reason not to vote for me,” Obama said, “Because your guns... we’re not going to mess with them... spread the word with your friends.”
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by wastedbandwidth September 5, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
yeah, riiiiiight.....

you have been such a friend of gun owners across America. "hunting'' guns in your eyes are black powder muzzleloaders.
thank God you will be Chicago''s problem again in a couple of months
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by DCropp September 5, 2008 3:51 PM PDT
It''s already been ruled on by the Supreme Court. The Second Ammendment guarantees the right to bear arms if they are obtained legally.

Why are so many people ignorant of this ruling? Don''t they pay attention to the Supreme Court?

Clearly McCain would rather lie to people than admit to the facts of the Supreme Court ruling.
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by pmsnbc1 September 5, 2008 4:16 PM PDT
FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP.

Funny, Nobama was in favor of taking away the guns of D.C. citizens just two short months ago.
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by anticonserv September 5, 2008 4:33 PM PDT
johngalt07 I dont dont know what poll you are looking at but looks like Arizona and Alaska are the only ones theat are getting check marks in the losers columes LMAO and if McShame cant get an orignal strategy and just keep tryiong to Dub Obama''s its going be some sad Conservatives LAMO What You need to worry about is the people cry about losing there jobs and homes yet you vote for the party who has done this to you just becuase you rahter suffer than vote for aMinority of any Kind unless they are from Alaska Im sorry thats the exception please
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by platteman September 5, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
Let us all remember, Obama said he would take public financing before he said he wouldn''t. He was against wiretapping before he voted for it. Obama was against the DC gun ban until the Supreme Court of the USA said it was not constutional. Obama is for raising taxes on the rich, first it was half a million, then it became $250,000 then it dropped to $100,000. Now tell me, he says one thing, does something else when he is confronted. He was against the surge, voted to end funding of the war, yet last night on O''Rielly he said it worked, yet when asked every time before, he said it hadn''t worked.

He is just like John Kerry, he was for it before he was against it. Over and over his work is like water, it will run away from him as fast as he says anything.
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by twocanpete September 5, 2008 4:38 PM PDT
All he has to do now is say that he will secure the borders and bring the jobs home from China.
I''ll be blogging it.
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by platteman September 5, 2008 4:40 PM PDT
What I can''t believe is that no one has blamed Bush for the hurricaines yet. Gosh I thought he was in charge of those storms. How come Obama and Biden haven''t blamed Bush for them yet? Oh that is right, give them time, they will.
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by mawskrat September 5, 2008 4:42 PM PDT
I trust Obama about as far as I can spit.
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by s1ckd09 September 5, 2008 4:56 PM PDT
All you have to do is look at his own slip up in the quotes above to see what he really wants.
%u201CI couldn%u2019t get it done. I don%u2019t have the votes in Congress.%u201D
Hmmm... so the reason he gives for not doing it is becuase he doesn''t have the votes? Someone that has no desire to take away guns wouldn''t even bother to consider the amount of votes he does or doesn''t have for it.
Plus, %u201CThis can%u2019t be the reason not to vote for me,%u201D indicates that he is more worried about the votes he will lose than his principles he says he believes in.
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by s1ckd09 September 5, 2008 4:58 PM PDT
Posted by whatwhy001 at 04:24 PM : Sep 05, 2008

You are very wrong to say Obama "has vitually no experience governing"... Obama has NO experience governing whatsoever.
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by j10031953 September 5, 2008 5:27 PM PDT
Obama not going to mess with our guns? How laughable is that? His own statement that he doesn''t have the votes just goes to show you just how stupid he thinks Americans are. He says he illegal guns are his concern so with a Democratic majority in Congress they can make gun ownership illegal and there you goes your guns. Obama wouldn''t give you a straight answer if his life depended on it. He is a LAWYER you know, so does anyone know a LAWYER that tells the truth?
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by obungler September 5, 2008 6:26 PM PDT
Obama lies! He''s already supporting banning GUNS! And he firmly believes that municipalities should have the right to do so!

His ideology subvers our Constitutional rights, as will his clear intention to subvert our Constitutional rights in global agreements subject to meeting UN standards!

NO! NO! NO! NO OBAMA! NO WAY JOSE!
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by tomlmurf September 5, 2008 6:40 PM PDT
Joe Biden sat on the committee that investigated the Branch Dividian massacre.
He helped cover up the ATF and FBI killing babies and young children.
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by tomlmurf September 5, 2008 6:41 PM PDT
Go to YOUTUBE and watch ''Waco; Rules of Engagement
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by shouterguy September 5, 2008 7:05 PM PDT
Obama is 100% solid on the Second Amendment.

I am a gun-owning, rural social moderate/conservative and I checked this out FIRST before I supported Obama.

He''s a Second Amendment supporter. Anyone who says he''s not is lying.


Period.
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by jmurrieta1 September 5, 2008 7:18 PM PDT
Last election the NRA smeared John Kerry, and backed the cowardly little deserter George Bush.

Why?

Because the NRA is a Republican front? Because they are no longer a Constitutional Rights group but just a political machine?

Maybe?
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by yellow651 September 5, 2008 7:19 PM PDT
Sure he supports your legal right to own guns, sure he does. No question you "checked it out." Are you nuts? He''s the leading liberal in the senate. That doesn''t tell you anything about his real leanings on gun control?
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by jmurrieta1 September 5, 2008 7:19 PM PDT
"All liberals so is lie about guns and owning them. The liberal freedom haters want to take your firearms from you period. If you beleive different, then you are a liberal moron.


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Posted by zgomer

Run on home now Gomer--Mayberry wants its moron back!

Don''t come back soon!
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by jmurrieta1 September 5, 2008 7:21 PM PDT
Dems and progressives should buy more guns, and learn how to use them, if you don''t already know.

We''re going to need them when the Fascists declare their fuhrer Supreme Commander in Chief for Life.
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by jiimmyb-2009 September 5, 2008 7:21 PM PDT
Shouterguy you are blind and here''s why. Obama has made it clear that if given the opportunity he will appoint liberal judges to the Supreme Court. If you recall, the 2nd Amendment was almost overturned in a 5-4 vote less than 2 months ago.
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by cm5605 September 5, 2008 7:37 PM PDT
Obama is not a 2nd Amendment supporter. He''s lying about that the same way he''s lying about not being Muslim. He''s only doing that to get your vote by telling you what you want to hear to get into the White House then he''ll show his other face and screw you.
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by im4honesty September 5, 2008 7:46 PM PDT
NRA

"Nuts running amok"!!!
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by mommajommah September 5, 2008 7:47 PM PDT
well, i aint scared of him, but his supreme court appointees would frighten the hail out of me on this issue.
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by larrymiz137 September 5, 2008 7:50 PM PDT
According to the book of revvelation:The anti crist will be a man, in his 40s, of muslim decent,who will deceive the nations with persuasive language,and have a massive christ like appeal...theprophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power,he will distroy everything. And now : for an award winning act of stupidity :The people want to elect a muslim male in his 40s to the presidency. He was born a muslim ( and still considered a muslim by his family ).to a muslim father.his mother remarried, Yep another muslim.so why would you think he wasent raised a muslim?
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by larrymiz137 September 5, 2008 7:58 PM PDT
Flip flopper my but, he is a dirty liar
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by straybill September 5, 2008 8:14 PM PDT
For all you O haters out there, how about showing some actual PROOF of all your claims - i.e. CREDIBLE links.

Option B, of course, is to simply admit the obvious; you''re scared of blacks.
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by miles1967-2009 September 5, 2008 8:20 PM PDT
Some of you ignorant right-wing nut jobs are beyond scary. But, that is obvious to the whole world who is reading your idiotic posts.
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by bob5ford September 5, 2008 8:29 PM PDT
Over 20 countries, including Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, Costa Rica and even Georgia have crime death rates higher then the United States. This includes several countries where guns are outlawed for private citizens. Russia''s gun death rate is three times the U.S.''s. I guess gun control really works much better then a legally armed citizen defending himself. By the way, would you like to buy a bridge?
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by ioweign September 5, 2008 8:34 PM PDT
Obama is 100% solid on the Second Amendment.

I am a gun-owning, rural social moderate/conservative and I checked this out FIRST before I supported Obama.

He''''s a Second Amendment supporter. Anyone who says he''''s not is lying.


Period.

Posted by shouterguy at 07:05 PM : Sep 05, 2008

How about McCain and "Freedom of the Press" ?
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by September 5, 2008 8:58 PM PDT
Shouterguy, you are indeed looney toons if you think Obama is not after your guns. Maybe he''ll let you keep a single shot .22, but if you have anything semi-auto he wants to take it. He has already said that in public. He also says that he does not have an objection to guns for recreation purposes, meaning hunting. The last time I looked, the Second Amendment did not limit the right to own and bear arms to guns for "sporting purposes." Get real, support a real American, support McCain-Palin.
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by September 5, 2008 9:01 PM PDT
It is worth getting fired up about. Left wing anti gun lunatics are constantly trying to violate my Constitution right to bear arms, and I don''t like it and will resist to the utmost. Thank God for organizations like the NRA, GOA, and JPFO who keep a watchful eye on pending legislation and don''t let the dishonest left wingers try to slip in yet another anti gun law, as if we need any more laws about guns.
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by kojipham September 5, 2008 9:06 PM PDT
spatin51 - Please tell us your definition of real Americans. Please educate us all. Please tell me you are not what I think are you
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by ubrew12 September 5, 2008 9:28 PM PDT
There was an article on cbsnews.com today about how it happened that a crazy man who should have been properly diagnosed and instituted was instead free to go on a rampage in Washington state the other day, killing six. The usual suspects were trotted out, liberal laws that prevent institutionalizing someone who doesn''t want it. Conservative cutbacks that drain mental health resources, etc.

But no one asked the simple question: if this guy HAD to be on the street, did he HAVE to have easy access to a gun?? Until we start asking that question, so many more Americans are going to die unnecessarily.
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by blazercoach1 September 5, 2008 10:08 PM PDT
In other words...vote for me, but don''t vote anymore liberals like me into Congress or I WILL have the votes to take your guns away!
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by cbsisdem September 5, 2008 10:21 PM PDT
Obama will say ANYTHING to trick Americans into voting for him. But we know better.
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by notfooledtx September 5, 2008 10:33 PM PDT
Oooo, looks like all the irrational angry folks from the gop convention all landed here. Yikes!!
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by chetking September 5, 2008 10:33 PM PDT
Calm down gun owners. I''m an NRA member and lifelong hunter. The organization is way off course in its recent internal magazine articles to members; Obama-Bidden are not after your firearms and from a federal perspective ain''t gonna be on the agenda with too many other bigger fish to fry. Why in God do so many gun owners and NRA people vote against their own interests in their hysteria over someone possibly taking their guns? Lighten up. Look at the recent Supreme Court decision on the Washington D.C. gun law which Obamma, a constitutional law professor, fully concurs with.
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by ragnar30066 September 5, 2008 10:39 PM PDT
So how is it going with Obama''s efforts to get the Justice Department to arrest those people putting on the public service ad asking about his relationship with Weatherman bomber Bill Ayers? The last I heard, there is no law against stating known facts and even if they weren''t facts the First Amendment is still in force. And will remain so as long as the Second Amendment is. Pesky thing that Bill of Rights.

I understand that Obama moonlighted as a teacher of constitutional law (?) right after he got out of law school (?). Is the Bill of Rights one of the Changes he thinks we need?
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by cbsisdem September 5, 2008 10:47 PM PDT
chetking,

You are being either disingenuous (lying) or you are very confused. If you are an Obama supporter, you are NOT an NRA member - Obama opposes everything the NRA stands for! If you give money to the NRA, AND you intend to vote for Obama, you are donating money to opposing sides.

My bet is that you are a liar - probably a paid comment poster working for the Obama campaign. Well, give this message to your boss: You will never be president of the United States of America.
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by cbsisdem September 5, 2008 10:53 PM PDT
By the way, just to educate any ignorant liberals out there:

The Second Amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting or sport shooting!
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by cbsisdem September 5, 2008 11:04 PM PDT
azure11, are you a paid Obama employee, are you a Canadian, or do you work for CBS?
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by docpeter-2009 September 6, 2008 7:12 AM PDT
His qualifier "illegal guns" should concern everyone. Obamas real position is that anything semi-automatic should be an "illegal gun", reducing the technology of the civilian population to government tyranny to that of the late 19th century.

Posted by clgl_fubar at 01:27 AM : Sep 06, 2008
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Please provide a reference where I can read this is BO''s opinion, otherwise you are spreading mor anti-BO nonsense.
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by hungryman9 September 6, 2008 7:52 AM PDT
YOu folks should know that most everything azure11 says is a lie. There are several on here everyday that are just libs telling lies and trying to get hussain elected. I think that pretty woman McCain brought on board is going to send them all packing.
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by sleepyric September 6, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
what a bunch of paranoid gun nuts....always have to read something into the sentence. It''s ok that your health insurance costs you a zillion $$, and your electric and gas bankrupt you, but all you *** worry about is your *** guns. What a bunch of tards..
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by hungry1968 September 6, 2008 8:49 AM PDT
Posted by sleepyric at 08:34 AM : Sep 06, 2008




That''s how the republicans ALWAYS win. They target, stupid, myopic people that only care about ONE ISSUE, lie to them, and then get their votes.

Look at Bush / Rove. They told everyone that if the democrats get elected, you''re going to have g`a`y marriages and abortions EVERYWHERE, in record numbers. So the religious right came out in record numbers to vote against Kerry.

The result, g`a`y marriages are now legal in two states, (soon to be 6), and abortions are happening at the same proportional (record) rates that they always have.

But now we have $4 gallons of gas, perpetual war, and a crumbling infrastructure to go along with it.
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by hungry1968 September 6, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
His qualifier "illegal guns" should concern everyone. Obamas real position is that anything semi-automatic should be an "illegal gun", reducing the technology of the civilian population to government tyranny to that of the late 19th century.

Posted by clgl_fubar at 01:27 AM : Sep 06, 2008





You have proof of this?

No, I didn''t think so.

Nothing but anti-Obama speculation and rumor mongering.
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by sleepyric September 6, 2008 9:33 AM PDT
yeah,,,that''s right,,,believe everything LaPierre says,,after all, your paranoia is making him a zillionaire! He uses your paranoia to suck the money out of you and build his little personal empire. He''s a lobbyist - isn''t McCain against lobbying?? Kind of hurts to know the truth doesn''t it? Suckers.
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by obungler September 6, 2008 10:01 AM PDT
Obama LIES! He''s already supported the banning of handguns and wants to continue to give rights to communities to ban them!

That''s TOTALLY against our Constitutional rights! Not even to say a part of the Communist Manifesto...disarm the people!
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by obungler September 6, 2008 10:02 AM PDT
Posted by whatwhy001 at 09:31 AM : Sep 06, 2008

Well said!
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by hungry1968 September 6, 2008 10:05 AM PDT
And it happened! Thats why the Demtards will not win this election.

Palin/McCain08

Posted by darkmeat4 at 09:47 AM : Sep 06, 2008





Yeah, and how is that $4 gallon of gas, and poisoned garbage from China working out for you?
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