Obama-Biden '08?
According to the New York Times, the New York Daily News and others, Barack Obama is primarily focused on three men as his search for a running mate draws to a close this week: Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, and Delaware Senator Joseph Biden.
Biden is perhaps the name with the most buzz at the moment, thanks in part to his foreign policy bona fides, which were recently showcased during his high profile trip to Georgia and call for aid to the country.
"Barring a big surprise or last-minute change of heart, the choice is likely to be Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee," Howard Fineman wrote on MSNBC today. Time's Mark Halperin is also suggesting Biden will join Obama on the ticket. And Obama mentioned Biden in a speech today, further fueling speculation.
Now we are getting a preview of how Republicans might target the ticket should Biden get the nod. Earlier today, the Republican National Committee sent around a blog post from Politico's Ben Smith showing a Biden ad from 1988.
It opens with an announcer saying this: "The White House isn't the place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power, war and peace, and the economic future of the next generation. A President has got to know the territory, but that's not enough."
That sounds not unlike some of the criticism leveled at Obama, a relative newcomer to the political scene, both by Republicans and former rival Hillary Clinton. Should Biden join Obama on the ticket, it's likely that Republicans will push this line of attack – particularly since they can link it to his running mate.
Biden is also taking some heat in the liberal blogosphere. In a post yesterday, Markos at Daily Kos questioned Biden's judgment because the Delaware senator voted for the war.
"It strikes me that any pick designed to cover up a 'flaw' in Obama (i.e. 'lack of foreign policy credentials') only accentuates those flaws," Kos writes of Biden. "Make him secretary of state."
Kos also picks up on one purported problem with Biden – that his long tenure in Washington makes him a bad fit with Obama's message.
"I'd love to see him pick a fresh face in politics who reinforces Obama's message of change," he writes. "Biden doesn't."
Obama is expected to announce his running mate to supporters late Friday and appear with him at the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois on Saturday.
Delaware State Election Commissioner Elaine Manlove told CBSNews.com this afternoon that Biden, who is up for reelection this year, "can run for both seats" if he becomes the vice presidential nominee.
She said the state's governor, who is sworn in on the same day as the president, would appoint a replacement for Biden should he win Senate reelection and the vice presidency. (Ruth Ann Minner, a Democrat, is presently the state's governor.) Whomever the governor appoints would serve a two year term.
UPDATE: Biden is now denying that Obama is planning to tap him. CBS News' Allison Davis O'Keefe reports that as the Delaware senator drove out of his driveway today, he leaned out slightly and said this to the reporters staking him out: "You've got better things to do guys, I'm not the guy."
Biden is perhaps the name with the most buzz at the moment, thanks in part to his foreign policy bona fides, which were recently showcased during his high profile trip to Georgia and call for aid to the country.
"Barring a big surprise or last-minute change of heart, the choice is likely to be Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee," Howard Fineman wrote on MSNBC today. Time's Mark Halperin is also suggesting Biden will join Obama on the ticket. And Obama mentioned Biden in a speech today, further fueling speculation.
Now we are getting a preview of how Republicans might target the ticket should Biden get the nod. Earlier today, the Republican National Committee sent around a blog post from Politico's Ben Smith showing a Biden ad from 1988.
It opens with an announcer saying this: "The White House isn't the place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power, war and peace, and the economic future of the next generation. A President has got to know the territory, but that's not enough."
That sounds not unlike some of the criticism leveled at Obama, a relative newcomer to the political scene, both by Republicans and former rival Hillary Clinton. Should Biden join Obama on the ticket, it's likely that Republicans will push this line of attack – particularly since they can link it to his running mate.
Biden is also taking some heat in the liberal blogosphere. In a post yesterday, Markos at Daily Kos questioned Biden's judgment because the Delaware senator voted for the war.
"It strikes me that any pick designed to cover up a 'flaw' in Obama (i.e. 'lack of foreign policy credentials') only accentuates those flaws," Kos writes of Biden. "Make him secretary of state."
Kos also picks up on one purported problem with Biden – that his long tenure in Washington makes him a bad fit with Obama's message.
"I'd love to see him pick a fresh face in politics who reinforces Obama's message of change," he writes. "Biden doesn't."
Obama is expected to announce his running mate to supporters late Friday and appear with him at the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois on Saturday.
Delaware State Election Commissioner Elaine Manlove told CBSNews.com this afternoon that Biden, who is up for reelection this year, "can run for both seats" if he becomes the vice presidential nominee.
She said the state's governor, who is sworn in on the same day as the president, would appoint a replacement for Biden should he win Senate reelection and the vice presidency. (Ruth Ann Minner, a Democrat, is presently the state's governor.) Whomever the governor appoints would serve a two year term.
UPDATE: Biden is now denying that Obama is planning to tap him. CBS News' Allison Davis O'Keefe reports that as the Delaware senator drove out of his driveway today, he leaned out slightly and said this to the reporters staking him out: "You've got better things to do guys, I'm not the guy."
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See all 110 CommentsI agree. Biden has a tendency, much like McCain, loves so much hearing himself talk that he tends to say some really stupid ***.
Veep candidates are like the children of campaigns..better seen than heard.
Posted by semperfi2008 at 04:05 PM : Aug 19, 2008
You think there is ONE person breathing on this planet that the Fascist are NOT going to throw all the mud at they can? It''s not that hard to point out the difference between McCain of 2000 and the McSlime we see today. I think MOST American''s can see the difference. Sieg Heil McSlime
Posted by b48151 at 04:25 PM : Aug 19, 2008
I can see the limits of your education is about what?? 6th Grade?? When you are living through the WORST in our HISTORY Sparky, I just don''t think calling someone "Liberal" is going to get it done for you? Not after living with a blazing NAZI like Bush... Nope, your going to have to do a little better than that. Sieg Heil Grand Wizard!!
After all, Biden is the one who gave Obama advice during one of the early Democratic party debates. During a commercial break, Biden told Obama he had to get into the fight. Sure enough, Obama did and that debate helped Obama win Iowa.
Picture this...the two are fighting each other to become the next president. Rather than tear each other down, they actually gave each other advice.
After 8 years of disaster in America because of a president who forced his ways on everyone in America. History has taught us that Americans deserve better than this.
Obama and Biden decided on that debate day that this isn''t about them, it''s about making sure the right thing is done for America.
Bob Casey - Maybe his dad but why him?
Wes Clark - Give me strenght - Retread
James Jones - Didn''t he die by drinking the kool aid?
John Kerry - Guys a friggin ***,
Claire McCaskill - Who?
Janet Napolitano - Who?
Bill Nelson - wierdo
Sam Nunn - Not a chance,
Ed Rendell - Guys a gangster
Tim Roemer - duh, who?
Brian Schweitzer - Sure, whos he?
Ted Strickland - super Ohio liberal,
Tom Vilsack - no, Hitlary athletic supporter,
Mark Warner - No
Jim Webb - ask him about that time in the car, with the fake guns driving through the hood?
Anthony Zinni - not one of Americas best Generals.
obama need to pick someone with good name recognition. that way he will crush mccain and whoever he picks (probably ramney).
need to pick someone whose well known to get votes, big names like kerry, dean, gore, or even clinton would be better than a unknown.
need to pick someone whose well known to get votes, big names like kerry, dean, gore, or even clinton would be better than a unknown.
Posted by abadawi77
If you don''t know who Joe Biden is, you can''t be well informed about anything, and should stay at home on election day.
BREAKING NEWS OBAMA IS A MUSLIM(or was)
GO SEE FOR YOURSELF
http://web.israelinsider.com
/Articles/Politics/13056.htm
Not Just Words, but an actual photo of his enrollment in Jakarta, he lists religion as ISLAM.
After a dismal run in power, neocons can''t run on their record so they have to resort to lies, smear and fear to get people to vote them in.
For examples of how desperate they''ve become see below.
lol!
Posted by badaxmofo at 05:43 PM : Aug 19, 2008
*** Nothing at all says vote for Amnesty Mccain! I would vote for Hitler before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain! If you are dumb enough to vote for Amnesty Mccain, you deserve to be forced to speak and learn Spanish just like everyone else will if Amnesty Mccain becomes dictator, um president!
Posted by obama8years at 06:02 PM : Aug 19, 2008a
*** Why do you care so much about the religion of a president? I don''t care what religion Obama or Amnesty Mccain is! I care more about the fact that Amnesty Mccain co-sponsored a bill that would have given amnesty to over 20 million illegal mexicans! Why would you want Amnesty Mccain as president so he can keep us in Iraq to apparently keep those foriegners from coming to our country, while at the same time he wants to let over 20 million other foreigners be given amnesty within our country! Talk about double talk express! I would vote for the prophet Mohammed before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain!
Then Obscamma jumps on Biden for VP because of his foreign policy BS...How stupid can you be!
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Posted by tomcool1277 at 06:19 PM : Aug 19, 2008
Well, It looks like you''re willing to do that...put Mohammad in the White House and you will STILL get amnesty...fool!
Eddie in Nashville, Tn
The most damaging revelation in the AP photo (registration required to see the large-scale image. A derived image is here.) may turn out to be the listing of his name as Barry Soetoro. It has been reported that he used the name Barack Hussein Obama and failed to mention Barry Soetoro when asked to provide any former names. (He reportedly also did not respond honestly when answering negatively to a question concerning illegal drug use, which he has since admitted.) It is believed that failure to report his previous name is not an isolated instance, and may have contributed to the perceived need to manufacture a forged birth certificate listing Obama''''s preferred identity as if it were present from the start.
The listing of Barry Soetoro as a Muslim contradicts what appears on his campaign''''s Fight the Smears website, where he says that "I have never been a Muslim." In a private meeting with Jewish leaders in February, Obama emphatically re-stated the claim, but with a bit of a twist, declaring: "I am not, nor have I ever been, a Muslim (especially an anti-American one)."
Posted by obama8years at 06:02 PM : Aug 19, 2008a
*** Why do you care so much about the religion of a president? I don''''t care what religion Obama or Amnesty Mccain is! I care more about the fact that Amnesty Mccain co-sponsored a bill that would have given amnesty to over 20 million illegal mexicans! Why would you want Amnesty Mccain as president so he can keep us in Iraq to apparently keep those foriegners from coming to our country, while at the same time he wants to let over 20 million other foreigners be given amnesty within our country! Talk about double talk express! I would vote for the prophet Mohammed before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain!
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It Proves Obama is a Lier , which we already know.
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Posted by RosieOD4Prez at 06:20 PM
Sounds like you have a lot of experience with that.
Posted by obama8years at 06:40 PM
Obama isn''t the liar, you are. Like we didn''t know that already. But furthermore, the fact that you care what religion he is, shows us that you are just another prejudiced bastaard that this world could do without.
Will McCain be taking toe-tapping lessons from Larry Craig?
Posted by obama8years at 06:39 PM : Aug 19, 2008
I love how stupid some ''con posters can be. This first sentence (question) is immediately answered in the next sentence. Then it''s followed by two ragingly unimportant lies. NO, a little boy named Barry didn''t claim Islam as his religion, his stepfather filled in his own religion. SO WHAT?
You''re into the 9/11 conspiracy lies, too, aren''t you? Either way, YOU''RE A LIAR!
"Hillary Democrat" choosing McCain? Not a chance, unless you''re basing your decision on photos or astrology. There is NO legitimate similarity in their politics.
YOU are a PHONY.
Please let it be Joe Biden. He has the credentials and everyone has heard of him. Also he is much more intelligently wittier than Mc Cain.
Please let it be Joe Biden. He has the credentials and everyone has heard of him. Also he is much more intelligently witty than Mc Cain.
MS.CLINTON,WOULD SAY OR DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR VOTE..
4TH..THE LIES aBOUT GETTING OFF A PLANE UNDER GUNFIRE,THAT SHE REPEATED ON MORE THAN 2 OCCASIONS..AND HER SUPPORTERS CLAIMING THAT THE MEDIA WAS ATTACKING HER BECaUSE OF THE STATEMENT..WELL,SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE LIED,AND TRIED TO COMPETE WITH JM TO SAY SHE TOO HAD COMBAT EXPERIENCE,LOL...WELL....
5TH..HAVE U CLINTON BACKERS EVEN LIFTED A FINGER ON YOUR KEYBOARD TO SEE JUST WHAT SHE''S DONE IN THE SENATE????
SHE HAD ONE MEANINGFUL BILL SHE SPONSORED,AND IT WAS ABOUT HEALTHCARE...THAT WAS IT!!!
THE OTHER 19 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH NOTHING..LIKE,NAMING POST OFFICES AFTER SOMEONE..WHAT THE HECK???
OBAMA HAD MORE EXPERIENCE ON HIS 1ST DAY IN THE SENATE THAN CLINTON DID..
AND HAD WRITTEN,SPONSORED,AND PASSED MORE BILLS THAN SHE DID..
OBAMA,RAN ON JUDGEMENT..
REMINDING ALL,THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM EXPERIENCE,LIKE SHE AND JOHN MC CAIN,AND ALL THEIR EXPERIENCE,GOT US IN THE WAR AND PREDICTAMENT THAT WE ALL ARE IN NOW!!
3RD,BE HONEST..THE REASON I SEE ON THE INTERNET,HEAR ON TALK SHOWS ON THE RADIO,AND SEE ON TV ABOUT HOW U CAN''T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE U ARE AFRAID,IS WEAK..AFRAID OF WHAT???
U GOT A BLACK MAN WHO HAS FACED PREJUDICE,LIKE HILLARY,AND OVERCAME IT..
HE GREW UP POOR AND ON FOOD STaMPS,UNLIKE
HILLARY AND MC CAIN,aND OVERCAME THAT TOO!!
HE GREW UP WITHOUT KNOWING HIS FATHER WITH HIS SINGLE MOTHER AND GRANDPARENTS RAISING HIM LIKE MOST YOUNG KIDS DO NOW,AND U SINGLE MOTHERS OUT THERE THINK THAT HILLARY KNOWS BETTER OR BEST FOR U???
SHE HAD PARENTS AND MONEY...
SO DID JM AKA JOHN MC CAIN...
OBAMA KNOWS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE POOR..
BUT DID HE RAISE THIS AS AN ISSUE OR COMPLAIN ABOUT IT???
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE STAYED HEAD STRONG,WAS SELF MOTIVATED,AND WHAT DO U KNOW,ENDED UP AT HARVARD!!!
LETS GET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT..
1ST,ALL THIS TALK ON WHAT HAPPENED TO HILLARY AND HOW SHE LOST IS SIMPLE..
SHE GOT BEAT!!
SHE GOT BEAT BY SOMEONE WHO PREPARED BETTER,FOUGHT HARDER,AND WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO ATTACK HER LIKE SHE DID HIM AND COME OFF AS A BULLY BEATING ON A GIRL..
2ND, FROM THE DAY SHE ENTERED THE RACE,SHE HAD NAME RECOGNITION,8 YEARS AS 1ST LADY,POLITICAL POWERHOUSES AS FRIENDS,AND MOST OF ALL.. MONEY!!!!
SHE DID NOT PREPARE OR RUN HER CAMPAIGN FOR THE LONG HALL LIKE HE DID..
HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE INTERNET,HIS ORGANIzATIONAL SKILLS,AND HIS ABILITY INSPIRE PEOPLE AND MOVE THEM WITH HIS SPEECHES..
3RD,SHE RAN ON THE SAYING,"I HAVE OVER 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE"..WHAT EXPERIENCE????
THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE IN CLINTONS CABINET AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE SAID THAT SHE DIDN''T HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS,OR EVEN SITTING IN MEETINGS CONCERNING THE ECONOMY,OR EVEN VOTING ON ANYTHING..
BUT AS U PUT IT,SHE HAS EXPERIENCE..LMAO,GIVE ME A BREAK PEOPLE..
Joe would do fine, as would the other veep candidates, even Hillary.
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