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August 19, 2008 3:21 PM

Obama-Biden '08?

According to the New York Times, the New York Daily News and others, Barack Obama is primarily focused on three men as his search for a running mate draws to a close this week: Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, and Delaware Senator Joseph Biden.

Biden is perhaps the name with the most buzz at the moment, thanks in part to his foreign policy bona fides, which were recently showcased during his high profile trip to Georgia and call for aid to the country.

"Barring a big surprise or last-minute change of heart, the choice is likely to be Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee," Howard Fineman wrote on MSNBC today. Time's Mark Halperin is also suggesting Biden will join Obama on the ticket. And Obama mentioned Biden in a speech today, further fueling speculation.

Now we are getting a preview of how Republicans might target the ticket should Biden get the nod. Earlier today, the Republican National Committee sent around a blog post from Politico's Ben Smith showing a Biden ad from 1988.

It opens with an announcer saying this: "The White House isn't the place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power, war and peace, and the economic future of the next generation. A President has got to know the territory, but that's not enough."

That sounds not unlike some of the criticism leveled at Obama, a relative newcomer to the political scene, both by Republicans and former rival Hillary Clinton. Should Biden join Obama on the ticket, it's likely that Republicans will push this line of attack – particularly since they can link it to his running mate.

Biden is also taking some heat in the liberal blogosphere. In a post yesterday, Markos at Daily Kos questioned Biden's judgment because the Delaware senator voted for the war.

"It strikes me that any pick designed to cover up a 'flaw' in Obama (i.e. 'lack of foreign policy credentials') only accentuates those flaws," Kos writes of Biden. "Make him secretary of state."

Kos also picks up on one purported problem with Biden – that his long tenure in Washington makes him a bad fit with Obama's message.

"I'd love to see him pick a fresh face in politics who reinforces Obama's message of change," he writes. "Biden doesn't."

Obama is expected to announce his running mate to supporters late Friday and appear with him at the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Illinois on Saturday.

Delaware State Election Commissioner Elaine Manlove told CBSNews.com this afternoon that Biden, who is up for reelection this year, "can run for both seats" if he becomes the vice presidential nominee.

She said the state's governor, who is sworn in on the same day as the president, would appoint a replacement for Biden should he win Senate reelection and the vice presidency. (Ruth Ann Minner, a Democrat, is presently the state's governor.) Whomever the governor appoints would serve a two year term.

UPDATE: Biden is now denying that Obama is planning to tap him. CBS News' Allison Davis O'Keefe reports that as the Delaware senator drove out of his driveway today, he leaned out slightly and said this to the reporters staking him out: "You've got better things to do guys, I'm not the guy."
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by semperfi2008 August 19, 2008 4:05 PM PDT
It would be a dumb mistake to pick Biden. The RNC will run those clips of Biden praising McCain and saying he would be glad to be his running mate in the 2000 primaries!
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by realpatriot1 August 19, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
semperfi2008,

I agree. Biden has a tendency, much like McCain, loves so much hearing himself talk that he tends to say some really stupid ***.

Veep candidates are like the children of campaigns..better seen than heard.
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by skyk-2009 August 19, 2008 4:26 PM PDT
Biden would be a good choice!
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by mcvet-1 August 19, 2008 4:30 PM PDT
It would be a dumb mistake to pick Biden. The RNC will run those clips of Biden praising McCain and saying he would be glad to be his running mate in the 2000 primaries!

Posted by semperfi2008 at 04:05 PM : Aug 19, 2008

You think there is ONE person breathing on this planet that the Fascist are NOT going to throw all the mud at they can? It''s not that hard to point out the difference between McCain of 2000 and the McSlime we see today. I think MOST American''s can see the difference. Sieg Heil McSlime
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by mcvet-1 August 19, 2008 4:32 PM PDT
It doesn''''t matter who Hussein picks because at the end of the day he is still a fkn radical liberal idiot.

Posted by b48151 at 04:25 PM : Aug 19, 2008

I can see the limits of your education is about what?? 6th Grade?? When you are living through the WORST in our HISTORY Sparky, I just don''t think calling someone "Liberal" is going to get it done for you? Not after living with a blazing NAZI like Bush... Nope, your going to have to do a little better than that. Sieg Heil Grand Wizard!!
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by DCropp August 19, 2008 4:41 PM PDT
Biden makes the most sense of the three candidates listed as front runners.

After all, Biden is the one who gave Obama advice during one of the early Democratic party debates. During a commercial break, Biden told Obama he had to get into the fight. Sure enough, Obama did and that debate helped Obama win Iowa.

Picture this...the two are fighting each other to become the next president. Rather than tear each other down, they actually gave each other advice.

After 8 years of disaster in America because of a president who forced his ways on everyone in America. History has taught us that Americans deserve better than this.

Obama and Biden decided on that debate day that this isn''t about them, it''s about making sure the right thing is done for America.
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 4:48 PM PDT
Great now we''ll have 2 arrogant $%@#@# in the White House with no experience. Obama, clearly no experience in any way shape or form, and Biden been in the Government since he was 29. No experience in anything else other than telling everyone else what to do. He is a petty, big mouth who frequently swears %u201Cfor emphasis%u201D. Guys and ***, oh, and a Plagiarizer and a Blow Hard extraordinaire! Nice!
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 4:50 PM PDT
daninmadison You are crazy if you think these 2 clowns are "it''''s about making sure the right thing is done for America." They''re both Ego Manics!
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 4:51 PM PDT
MCVet-1 ditto for you. Idiot!
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 4:54 PM PDT
semperfi2008 dont tell me you''re voting for this clown? A Marine who is voting for this moron. Why, because he''s black? What is Obama getting like 99.9% of the black vote? I''d say thats not informed voting, but voting against the other guy, because he isn''t black. Thats racism!
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by embryoniccrusader August 19, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
I think it will be Obama Biden in the cards for America. http://www.obamabiden08.org has been exploring that topic since January 2008!
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by mrmazerati August 19, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
Obama admires McCain. McCain admires Obama. Their policies are not radically different. Even Iraq is a wash when you really think about when troops will come home. Obama sent Biden to Georgia with basically the same position as McCain. The candidates have cosponsored bills. Ask me, the only things different about these two guys are age and color. Media hype aside, this is one of the least contentious races I can remember.
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
Michael Bloomberg - Why?,
Bob Casey - Maybe his dad but why him?
Wes Clark - Give me strenght - Retread
James Jones - Didn''t he die by drinking the kool aid?
John Kerry - Guys a friggin ***,
Claire McCaskill - Who?
Janet Napolitano - Who?
Bill Nelson - wierdo
Sam Nunn - Not a chance,
Ed Rendell - Guys a gangster
Tim Roemer - duh, who?
Brian Schweitzer - Sure, whos he?
Ted Strickland - super Ohio liberal,
Tom Vilsack - no, Hitlary athletic supporter,
Mark Warner - No
Jim Webb - ask him about that time in the car, with the fake guns driving through the hood?
Anthony Zinni - not one of Americas best Generals.

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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 5:04 PM PDT
mrmazerati - too bad you and I have the same vote. YOu''re clueless. Barry can''t shine Mac''s shoes! Community activist. Give me a break.
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by KYJurisDoctor August 19, 2008 5:05 PM PDT
It will be Joe Biden or Tim Kaine. OsiSpeaks.com
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 5:08 PM PDT
KYJurisDocto - Hey Lawyer dude, tell me why? Kaine has ltd Chief Executive experience, and Biden is a Blow Hard. I actually hope its Biden. Then the RNC can re-run his comments about the nice, clean black kid! Brilliant!
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by embryoniccrusader August 19, 2008 5:08 PM PDT
I think it will be Obama Biden in the cards for America. http://www.obamabiden08.org has been exploring that topic since January 2008!
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by mrmazerati August 19, 2008 5:13 PM PDT
I see everyone foaming at the mouth but the candidates themselves, here. They don''t hate each other, why should we hate one or the other on their behalf? If you''re a McCain fan, why not take McCain''s lead and respect his opponent? Same for Obama. There''s no animosity at the top, why feel like you have to roll around in it at the bottom?
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by embryoniccrusader August 19, 2008 5:16 PM PDT
I think it will be Obama Biden in the cards for America. http://www.obamabiden08.org has been exploring that topic since January 2008!
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by ichabod57 August 19, 2008 5:17 PM PDT
Biden, huh? Now THAT might actually get me to vote for McCain.
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by jackmayoff2 August 19, 2008 5:20 PM PDT
THATS A GOOD PICK FOR OBAMA
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by drbob10001 August 19, 2008 5:22 PM PDT
NO, simply NO, Please NO! Biden will lose votes for Obama. He is OLD POLITICS! We need a change. Someone who is unexpected, yet admired. Hopefully a strong woman with the power of history and poise behind her
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by xjug1987-2009 August 19, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
Barry does''t respect anyone. He consistantly refers to Senator McCain as "John McCain" this or that. President Bush as "George Bush"... Right out of Bill Clintons disrespectful book. Do not use the title of your opponent as it elevates them. Barrie is a little nothing and he''s dangerous.
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by abadawi77 August 19, 2008 5:42 PM PDT
who the hell is biden?
obama need to pick someone with good name recognition. that way he will crush mccain and whoever he picks (probably ramney).
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by abadawi77 August 19, 2008 5:46 PM PDT
nobody even heard of biden! (i just had to look him up on wikipedia to figure who he was).
need to pick someone whose well known to get votes, big names like kerry, dean, gore, or even clinton would be better than a unknown.
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by cdfoxtrot2 August 19, 2008 5:57 PM PDT
nobody even heard of biden! (i just had to look him up on wikipedia to figure who he was).
need to pick someone whose well known to get votes, big names like kerry, dean, gore, or even clinton would be better than a unknown.

Posted by abadawi77

If you don''t know who Joe Biden is, you can''t be well informed about anything, and should stay at home on election day.
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by obama8years August 19, 2008 6:02 PM PDT
THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!!

BREAKING NEWS OBAMA IS A MUSLIM(or was)

GO SEE FOR YOURSELF

http://web.israelinsider.com

/Articles/Politics/13056.htm

Not Just Words, but an actual photo of his enrollment in Jakarta, he lists religion as ISLAM.
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by micma-2009 August 19, 2008 6:07 PM PDT


After a dismal run in power, neocons can''t run on their record so they have to resort to lies, smear and fear to get people to vote them in.

For examples of how desperate they''ve become see below.


lol!




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by tomcool1277 August 19, 2008 6:16 PM PDT
Nothing says vote McCain more than Obama-Biden!
Posted by badaxmofo at 05:43 PM : Aug 19, 2008
*** Nothing at all says vote for Amnesty Mccain! I would vote for Hitler before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain! If you are dumb enough to vote for Amnesty Mccain, you deserve to be forced to speak and learn Spanish just like everyone else will if Amnesty Mccain becomes dictator, um president!
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by tomcool1277 August 19, 2008 6:19 PM PDT
Not Just Words, but an actual photo of his enrollment in Jakarta, he lists religion as ISLAM.
Posted by obama8years at 06:02 PM : Aug 19, 2008a
*** Why do you care so much about the religion of a president? I don''t care what religion Obama or Amnesty Mccain is! I care more about the fact that Amnesty Mccain co-sponsored a bill that would have given amnesty to over 20 million illegal mexicans! Why would you want Amnesty Mccain as president so he can keep us in Iraq to apparently keep those foriegners from coming to our country, while at the same time he wants to let over 20 million other foreigners be given amnesty within our country! Talk about double talk express! I would vote for the prophet Mohammed before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain!
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by wellhell3 August 19, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
Obscamma is such a stupid twit! He and Biden both come out echoing John McCain on the Georgia issue!

Then Obscamma jumps on Biden for VP because of his foreign policy BS...How stupid can you be!
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by rosieod4prez August 19, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
Man, Biden looks just like someone told him his mother passed away.
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by gretagreen August 19, 2008 6:21 PM PDT
I like Joe Biden but I''d like to see Obama choose Sam Nunn.

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by wellhell3 August 19, 2008 6:21 PM PDT
I would vote for the prophet Mohammed before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain!


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Posted by tomcool1277 at 06:19 PM : Aug 19, 2008

Well, It looks like you''re willing to do that...put Mohammad in the White House and you will STILL get amnesty...fool!
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by efarris38 August 19, 2008 6:24 PM PDT
I hate to say this but I am a lifelong Democrat but if Obama does not choose Evan Bayh for Vice President then I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR OBAMA. He is shunning all of the Clinton supporters by not choosing Senator Bayh. In addition, Senator has just as much if not more experience than Biden. Bayh has been a two term Governor, a US Senator and also been on the Armed Services and Senate Intelligence Comm which shores up the foreign policy and national security experience. Bayh also bridges the Clinton supports and would UNITE the party. I feel like Obama would be taking a unilateral approach if he picks Biden and show that he doesnt care what fellow Democrats and constituents think, this is a page of classic George W Bush and same old Washingt on tactics. I wish Obama well but unless Senator Bayh is the choice then I will take my chances and possibly vote for McCain especially if he chooses a moderate or Lieberman. I am tired of these politicians not listening to the American people who are the ones who elect these folks. Obama please dont make the same mistakes that the Bush Admin has made for 8 yrs!!!!! OBAMA/BAYH 2008!!!!!!!!!!

Eddie in Nashville, Tn
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by obama8years August 19, 2008 6:39 PM PDT
If we cant question Obama patriotism , can we ask him if he was ever a Muslim or his religion was Islam. He denys it on his website.


The most damaging revelation in the AP photo (registration required to see the large-scale image. A derived image is here.) may turn out to be the listing of his name as Barry Soetoro. It has been reported that he used the name Barack Hussein Obama and failed to mention Barry Soetoro when asked to provide any former names. (He reportedly also did not respond honestly when answering negatively to a question concerning illegal drug use, which he has since admitted.) It is believed that failure to report his previous name is not an isolated instance, and may have contributed to the perceived need to manufacture a forged birth certificate listing Obama''''s preferred identity as if it were present from the start.

The listing of Barry Soetoro as a Muslim contradicts what appears on his campaign''''s Fight the Smears website, where he says that "I have never been a Muslim." In a private meeting with Jewish leaders in February, Obama emphatically re-stated the claim, but with a bit of a twist, declaring: "I am not, nor have I ever been, a Muslim (especially an anti-American one)."


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by obama8years August 19, 2008 6:40 PM PDT
Not Just Words, but an actual photo of his enrollment in Jakarta, he lists religion as ISLAM.
Posted by obama8years at 06:02 PM : Aug 19, 2008a
*** Why do you care so much about the religion of a president? I don''''t care what religion Obama or Amnesty Mccain is! I care more about the fact that Amnesty Mccain co-sponsored a bill that would have given amnesty to over 20 million illegal mexicans! Why would you want Amnesty Mccain as president so he can keep us in Iraq to apparently keep those foriegners from coming to our country, while at the same time he wants to let over 20 million other foreigners be given amnesty within our country! Talk about double talk express! I would vote for the prophet Mohammed before I would vote for Amnesty Mccain!
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It Proves Obama is a Lier , which we already know.
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by rudy654-2009 August 19, 2008 6:47 PM PDT
Man, Biden looks just like someone told him his mother passed away.


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Posted by RosieOD4Prez at 06:20 PM

Sounds like you have a lot of experience with that.
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by rudy654-2009 August 19, 2008 6:48 PM PDT
It Proves Obama is a Lier , which we already know.

Posted by obama8years at 06:40 PM

Obama isn''t the liar, you are. Like we didn''t know that already. But furthermore, the fact that you care what religion he is, shows us that you are just another prejudiced bastaard that this world could do without.
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by jmurrieta1 August 19, 2008 6:55 PM PDT
How many times has George Bush kissed John McCain?

Will McCain be taking toe-tapping lessons from Larry Craig?
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by actornaught August 19, 2008 7:01 PM PDT
...can we ask him if he was ever a Muslim or his religion was Islam. He denys it on his website....
Posted by obama8years at 06:39 PM : Aug 19, 2008

I love how stupid some ''con posters can be. This first sentence (question) is immediately answered in the next sentence. Then it''s followed by two ragingly unimportant lies. NO, a little boy named Barry didn''t claim Islam as his religion, his stepfather filled in his own religion. SO WHAT?

You''re into the 9/11 conspiracy lies, too, aren''t you? Either way, YOU''RE A LIAR!
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by cbs4me3 August 19, 2008 7:09 PM PDT
Joe is not stupid. Why throw away his career for this guy. BO has no experience, no record of accomplishment, and lacks the trust of Americans. Remember, BO was voting present just 4 years ago in the Illinois state legislature. Fortunately, John McCain offers us Hillary Democrats a most welcome choice.
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by actornaught August 19, 2008 7:19 PM PDT
Posted by CBS4me3 at 07:09 PM : Aug 19, 2008

"Hillary Democrat" choosing McCain? Not a chance, unless you''re basing your decision on photos or astrology. There is NO legitimate similarity in their politics.

YOU are a PHONY.
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by jenny1233-2009 August 19, 2008 7:25 PM PDT








Please let it be Joe Biden. He has the credentials and everyone has heard of him. Also he is much more intelligently wittier than Mc Cain.










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by jenny1233-2009 August 19, 2008 7:26 PM PDT






Please let it be Joe Biden. He has the credentials and everyone has heard of him. Also he is much more intelligently witty than Mc Cain.






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by jd2408 August 19, 2008 7:26 PM PDT
What experience did Ronald Reagan or Bill Clinton have ? Why all this talk about experience all of a sudden ? Must be the Republicans have nothing else to hang on to. What is McCain''s experience other than everything the same as President Bush. I am tired of that experience.
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by earl011 August 19, 2008 7:28 PM PDT
cbs4me,u and the other silly hillary supporters,are so tired..
MS.CLINTON,WOULD SAY OR DO ANYTHING FOR YOUR VOTE..
4TH..THE LIES aBOUT GETTING OFF A PLANE UNDER GUNFIRE,THAT SHE REPEATED ON MORE THAN 2 OCCASIONS..AND HER SUPPORTERS CLAIMING THAT THE MEDIA WAS ATTACKING HER BECaUSE OF THE STATEMENT..WELL,SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE LIED,AND TRIED TO COMPETE WITH JM TO SAY SHE TOO HAD COMBAT EXPERIENCE,LOL...WELL....

5TH..HAVE U CLINTON BACKERS EVEN LIFTED A FINGER ON YOUR KEYBOARD TO SEE JUST WHAT SHE''S DONE IN THE SENATE????

SHE HAD ONE MEANINGFUL BILL SHE SPONSORED,AND IT WAS ABOUT HEALTHCARE...THAT WAS IT!!!
THE OTHER 19 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH NOTHING..LIKE,NAMING POST OFFICES AFTER SOMEONE..WHAT THE HECK???

OBAMA HAD MORE EXPERIENCE ON HIS 1ST DAY IN THE SENATE THAN CLINTON DID..
AND HAD WRITTEN,SPONSORED,AND PASSED MORE BILLS THAN SHE DID..
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by earl011 August 19, 2008 7:31 PM PDT

OBAMA,RAN ON JUDGEMENT..
REMINDING ALL,THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIM EXPERIENCE,LIKE SHE AND JOHN MC CAIN,AND ALL THEIR EXPERIENCE,GOT US IN THE WAR AND PREDICTAMENT THAT WE ALL ARE IN NOW!!

3RD,BE HONEST..THE REASON I SEE ON THE INTERNET,HEAR ON TALK SHOWS ON THE RADIO,AND SEE ON TV ABOUT HOW U CAN''T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE U ARE AFRAID,IS WEAK..AFRAID OF WHAT???

U GOT A BLACK MAN WHO HAS FACED PREJUDICE,LIKE HILLARY,AND OVERCAME IT..

HE GREW UP POOR AND ON FOOD STaMPS,UNLIKE
HILLARY AND MC CAIN,aND OVERCAME THAT TOO!!

HE GREW UP WITHOUT KNOWING HIS FATHER WITH HIS SINGLE MOTHER AND GRANDPARENTS RAISING HIM LIKE MOST YOUNG KIDS DO NOW,AND U SINGLE MOTHERS OUT THERE THINK THAT HILLARY KNOWS BETTER OR BEST FOR U???

SHE HAD PARENTS AND MONEY...
SO DID JM AKA JOHN MC CAIN...

OBAMA KNOWS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE POOR..
BUT DID HE RAISE THIS AS AN ISSUE OR COMPLAIN ABOUT IT???

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE STAYED HEAD STRONG,WAS SELF MOTIVATED,AND WHAT DO U KNOW,ENDED UP AT HARVARD!!!
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by earl011 August 19, 2008 7:32 PM PDT
cbs4me..u and the hillary supporters on so lost

LETS GET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT..
1ST,ALL THIS TALK ON WHAT HAPPENED TO HILLARY AND HOW SHE LOST IS SIMPLE..
SHE GOT BEAT!!

SHE GOT BEAT BY SOMEONE WHO PREPARED BETTER,FOUGHT HARDER,AND WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO ATTACK HER LIKE SHE DID HIM AND COME OFF AS A BULLY BEATING ON A GIRL..

2ND, FROM THE DAY SHE ENTERED THE RACE,SHE HAD NAME RECOGNITION,8 YEARS AS 1ST LADY,POLITICAL POWERHOUSES AS FRIENDS,AND MOST OF ALL.. MONEY!!!!
SHE DID NOT PREPARE OR RUN HER CAMPAIGN FOR THE LONG HALL LIKE HE DID..
HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE INTERNET,HIS ORGANIzATIONAL SKILLS,AND HIS ABILITY INSPIRE PEOPLE AND MOVE THEM WITH HIS SPEECHES..

3RD,SHE RAN ON THE SAYING,"I HAVE OVER 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE"..WHAT EXPERIENCE????
THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE IN CLINTONS CABINET AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE SAID THAT SHE DIDN''T HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS,OR EVEN SITTING IN MEETINGS CONCERNING THE ECONOMY,OR EVEN VOTING ON ANYTHING..

BUT AS U PUT IT,SHE HAS EXPERIENCE..LMAO,GIVE ME A BREAK PEOPLE..
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by actornaught August 19, 2008 7:33 PM PDT
jenny makes a good simple point. Joe Biden presents himself quite well. I watched him on Meet the Press (?) several weeks back, and compared to Joe, Lindsay Graham is a another creepy republican pod. And he took Lindsay apart like a bad toupe over offshore drilling.

Joe would do fine, as would the other veep candidates, even Hillary.
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