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August 17, 2008 8:03 AM

Despite Request, McCain Resorted to Stock Answers at Faith Forum

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From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro:

(LAKE FOREST, CA.) - There was one rule evangelical pastor Rick Warren wanted to make clear about his questions to both candidates during his forum on Saturday night, and he said it more than once.

"Don't give me your stump speech on these."

"Now, I don't want to hear your stump speech."

Barack Obama rarely had the opportunity to delve into his stump speech, perhaps because Warren tended to change the subject as it seemed Obama was making that turn towards his stump.

But John McCain, who has been deemed a “maverick" for years, played the part well and seemed not to play by Warren's guideline. Instead, he took the opportunity during the discussion, carried live by cable news networks, to stick hard to the message he's been driving across the country since running for president.

Almost none of the lines or stories were new, but McCain jumped from sharp, brief answers to weaving through his tried-and-true anecdotes, many of which his audience, and Warren, seemed to have never heard before.

For instance:

He told Warren that we should divert money spent overseas to domestic growth in alternative energies, saying, "We're sending $700 billion dollars a year to countries that don't like us very much, that some of that money is ended up in the hands of terrorists organizations."

That's one McCain has brought up a few times this month.

"Yet another reminder -- another reminder that it's time we got serious about our energy crisis and stop sending $700 billion a year overseas to countries that don't like us very much." (August 12, FOX News)

"We ought not to be sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much and some of the money ends up in the hands of known terrorist organizations. That's published fact." (August 11, Erie, Pa.)

"We also need to develop more existing energies like safe nuclear power and clean coal. And we need to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much." (August 6, Lima, Ohio)

He was forced to stray from his stump, however, when asked which current Supreme Court justices he would not have nominated. McCain responded by naming all of those identified as being left-leaning – Souter, Ginsburg, Stephens, Breyer. Though he likes the ones said to be conservative leaning just fine.

But he circled back to tried-and-true comments from the trail when he said, "This nomination should be based on the criteria of proven record of strictly adhering to the Constitution of the United States of America and not legislating from the bench. And by the way, Justices Alito and Roberts are two of my most recent favorites, by the way."

On Wednesday in York, Pa., McCain said something similar: "I want to look you in the eye and assure you that I have supported Justice Alito and Justice Roberts. I will nominate only judges who have a clear record of strict adherence to the Constitution of the United States and do not believe in legislating from the bench."

Asked if he supported federal money for faith-based organizations, McCain said the following:

"I went to New Orleans after (Hurricane) Katrina, the Resurrection Baptist Church was doing tremendous work with thousands of volunteers, I'm sure probably from here at Saddleback, coordinating the efforts of thousands of volunteers, including my own church, the North Phoenix Baptist Church, who came from all over America. And various authorities off the record told me off the record that they were doing so much more good than the government organizations."

On July 13, the New York Times published these similar comments from McCain: "I support faith-based organizations and I support a lot of the things that the president did. I was in New Orleans after Katrina and I went to their Resurrection Baptist Church and I saw volunteers from all over America working and helping in the clean-up, and the work that they did and talking with people like Governor Jindal, he said they did great work. I would continue along the model of what the president has done."

McCain said he changed his mind in the last tem years about off-shore drilling, and he wants it right now. Not only that, but...

"We have to have nuclear power in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and save on our energy costs. By the way, in case you hadn't noticed it, the French 80 percent, we love to imitate the French, but 80 percent of their electricity is generated by nuclear power...and by the way if you hadn't noticed we now have a pro-American president of France, which proves if you live long enough, anything can happen in America."

On July 31, in Racine, Wisc? "I can tell you that the French -- we always want to imitate the French, right? Eighty percent of their electricity is generated by nuclear power. And in case you missed it, we now have a pro-American president of France, which shows that if you live long enough, anything can happen in the world and America."

Asked what the most gut-wrenching decision he ever had to make was...

"It was long ago and far away in a prison camp in North Vietnam. My father was a high ranking admiral. The Vietnamese came and said that i could leave prison early. And we had a code of conduct that said you only leave by order of capture. I also had a dear and beloved friend who was from California by the name Ed Alvarez who had been shot down and captured a couple years before me but i wasn't in good physical shape. In fact I was in rather bad physical shape. So I said no. Now, in it of full disclosure, I'm very happy I didn't know the war was going to last for another three years or so. But I said no and I'll never forget sitting in my last answer and the high ranking officer who offered it slammed the door and the interrogator said go back to your cell it's going to be very tough on you now. And it was. But not only the toughest decision i ever made but I'm most happy about that decision than any decision I've ever made in my life."

And on July 13 in San Diego: "When I was in prison in Vietnam, I like other of my fellow POWs, was offered early release by my captors. Most of us refused because we were bound to our code of conduct, which said those who had been captured the earliest had to be released the soonest. My friend, Everett Alvarez, a brave American of Mexican descent, had been shot down years before I was, and had suffered for his country much more and much longer than I had. To leave him behind would have shamed us."

Asked to name an instance when he went against his own party, he joked, "You know by a strange coincidence I was not elected Miss Congeniality in the United States Senate this year."

That's one line he hasn't only used in this election. He was using it back when he ran and lost the Republican nomination against George W. Bush.

"It's fair to say that I did not win Miss Congeniality in the U.S. Senate this year. I have to admit that to you." (February 15, 2000, New York)

He even closed his campaign's most recent motto, "Country First," which welcomes visitors to his website and has appeared on banners and podiums more and more in recent weeks, when Pastor Rick asked why he wanted to be president.

"I go to places where I know they probably won't vote for me. I know that my job is to tell them that I'll be the president of every American and I'll always put my country first."

On message and welcomed by the audience, McCain had the crowd hearing him again for the first time.
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by Lin2006 August 20, 2008 9:19 AM EDT
As a 4th generation Christian and Republican I cannot support the dishonest type of character that McCain has displayed since his teenage years. McCain, coming to Rick Warren''s conversation with short stock answers of the "right/wrong" variety reminded me of the worst of the pastors I''ve encountered in my 55 years in churches across this country. Abusive, condescending, calling us "friends" without knowing who we really are, assuming that he himself is always right and we of course must surely agree.

We don''t agree.

McCain did not keep his agreement regarding the cone of silence. When called on the carpet about violating this agreement, his response was dishonorable. We cannot afford this type of personality in the oval office ... whether he calls himself Christian, Baptist, Judeo-Christian ... matters not to me! I''d rather have an honorable person of ANY religion in the White House than the type of person McCain has shown himself to be. Beware of he who calls us "friends" but truly knows us not. Beware of the wolf in sheeps'' clothing.
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by gracianp August 19, 2008 12:46 AM EDT
Thank you Ryan for reporting it like it is. McInsane was clearly prompted pre-debate. What we need are once again REAL debates like we used to have- moderated and controlled by patriotic groups like the League of Women Voters. We need unrehearsed and uncoached answers to impromptu questions on the issues of importance to the future of the nation- not to the nonsense put out by the propaganda shills aka the news anchors and evangelical kool-aid purveyors.
When will the media address the hypocritical McCain ads- where he champions issues which he has never stood for nor voted for?
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by August 18, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
Making your own rules, calling yourself a Maverick, is fine -- when you bend the rules the way John McCain did Saturday night, against the moderator''s stated rules, it''s called cheating.

This is a man of honor? A man who has hired the same smear team that spread lies about him and his daughter Bridget in 1990 to smear his opponent?

I am looking for where there may be honor in this man. Let''s not even touch his adultery, cheating on a faithful wife facing life-threatening operations, and then lying about it.
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by nhindependen August 18, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
McCain tainted the outcome of the Saddleback event by not keeping two commitments: to eliminate stump-speech responses and to stay isolated in the %u201Ccone of silence%u201D during the first hour between Obama and Warren. This event was supposed to be a sincere conversation about faith and personal values. Obama responded thoughtfully to each question from a personal faith and values perspective. His answers were nuanced as any serious conversation with a pastor would be. McCain arrived with short, pat answers, sometimes answering a question before Warren finished asking it. He even asked about the Supreme Court Justices question way before Warren got to that part of the questioning. We viewers did not discover until today that McCain had not even been in the building when Warren promised us that McCain was already in that cone of silence. What a sham! With Blackberries, McCain may not have personally %u201Cheard%u201D the questions but his team would have known them through text messages. McCain abused the event, minimizing the personal faith and values conversation with Warren, turning instead to the cameras in shameless political pandering. Warren did not try to redirect his focus but let him spend the hour reiterating his stump speech themes. The evangelical audience at Saddleback was understandably receptive. McCain broke his commitments. Warren broke his commitments. I am deeply offended by such dishonorable conduct. Unacceptable!

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by aj4321-2009 August 18, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
McCain''s war stories are pure fictions. Now we have proof that he is stealing stories from Russian authors. How low will McBush go???
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by aj4321-2009 August 18, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
GIVE ME A BREAK, EGOBAMA LOOKED LOST ......

Posted by scristanti
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If you have the questions beforehand and don''t have to think, you can really look good. McBush has no integrity. Republicans everywhere should be ashamed of their candidate.
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by revrob56 August 18, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
On that torture question I wonder how he can sleep?
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by revrob56 August 18, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
As a Christian I was disappointed in Sen. McCain''s responses to the questions asked. It was actually campaign bullets and not expressions of his faith. Drill, conservative justices, and other campaign themes primarily to the base and evangelicals were not in response to questions but actually McCain taking control(politely) of the discussion. Evangelicals are still not sure whether he has any faith or not. One thing that concerned me was his statement that he went against his party on the torture question, when in fact he went against them at first as POW McCain but changed his mind as nominee McCain.
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by scristanti August 18, 2008 2:58 AM EDT
GIVE ME A BREAK, EGOBAMA LOOKED LOST, AND HAD TO REALLY THINK HARD TO COME UP WITH ANSWERS BECAUSE HE HAS NO, NADA, EXPEIRENCE, AND YOU LIBS, AND OF COURSE CBS, MSM, LIBERAL MEDIA CANNOT STAND IT THAT MCCAIN LOOKED SO PRESIDENTIAL, EVEN CNN SAID OBAMA REALLY HAS TO PREPARE FOR DEBATES, AND THE ONES WHO SEEM TO KNOW HIM ON CNN SAID THIS IS THE WAY MCCAIN IS WHEN ON HIS BUS WITH REPORTERS, QUICK WITH ANSWERS, AND VERY DECISIVE. HOW DARE YOU RYAN ACCUSE HIM WITHOUT ANY PROOF JUST TO START A RUMOR, IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO DO, BUT WE ALL KNOW CBS IS NOTHING BUT A FAR LEFT NETWORK AND IN THE TANK FOR THE CORONATED KING, ITS ALL BACKFIRING, HEY RYAN WHY DONT YOU TALK ABOUT HOW OBAMA CAVED IN TO HILLARY, IT IS NOW GOING TO BE A CLINTON CONVENTION. HE HAS NO GUTS!!! WHO WANTS A WEAK PRESIDENT LIKE THAT?????
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by mrtutto August 18, 2008 2:46 AM EDT
So now we find out that all is not what you hear from John McCain. He was not in a CONE OF SILENCE during Obama''s interview..... He heard the questions being asked to Obama ahead of time. I would say that that is advantage McCain... To be fooled like that especially from an old fool is embarassing for the Obama camp. Now we are supposed to believe his campaign when they say that he did not hear the questions ahead of time. No wonder he was answering the questions before they were even asked. Was it coincidence when he asked Warren " When are you going to ask me about the Supreme Court Judges? Since this was a religious event , I find this kind of cheating on McCain''s part as blasphemous.
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by phdiva-2009 August 18, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
Ryan, thank you for doing your job as a reporter. You conducted the research and you reported the facts. McCain violated the agreement he made regarding the forum. It''s amazing that McCain supporters posting here actually want you to stop doing your job because it reveals the inadequacies of their candidate. Your fellow journalists have obliged them. I''m glad you have maintained some journalistic integrity. I hope that you will also report on the fact that he delayed attendance so he would not have to go into the cone of silence. Why do these so-called Christians in McCain''s camp have no interest in honesty or integrity.
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by edspyhill01 August 18, 2008 1:58 AM EDT
McCain - dumber than Dubya.
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by moski33-2009 August 18, 2008 12:35 AM EDT
P.S. It is called experience and knowledge vs incompetent boob with bad judgment and a messiah complex that you, the MSM helped create.

Just because someone can read a tele prompter really well, does not make them a good candidate for leader of the FREE world.
(notice: umm ahhh um no tele prompter at forum / thinking full, concrete thoughts is kinda hard for Messiahs)
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by moski33-2009 August 18, 2008 12:06 AM EDT
Oh My God! you are sooooo jealous that McCain smoked your Messiah! If Barry O. wasn''t a evasive lying sack of cr@p, maybe he would have come off a bit better. So, you want McCain to never answer a question directly cos . . he might have talked about his ideas and views at some point while on the trail?? WHAT?
Barry never answered directly. Circle after circle. I couldn''t stand watching him. I almost changed the channel 5 times. Barry is so skilled at veering his talking points to whatever kind of crowed he is talking in front of, and you people covering for him, never bring it up. All we want is to hear some real answers to the questions. Barry is so afraid to answer truthfully to anything! And YOU sit there and cover for him. WOW!
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by mike970670 August 18, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
Hi Ryan Corsaro! First, it was "mean" George Stephanopoulos beating up on your poor "messiah". Now it''s "old" John McCain ( that''s how you libs describe him, yes?) getting the upper hand on the "chosen one". Seeing that your "god child" is so fragile and tend to loose his way without a teleprompter. You might want to keep him on vacation until his convention speech. Um, ah, uh, um,ah. HA! HA! HA!
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by xpdf August 17, 2008 11:49 PM EDT
Really?/ The circles of the world leadership and control of the wealth and military to be presided over should have to work with such inexperience of one who believes literally and philosophically in "legally murdering" human progeny: persons with rights overlorded by ''oh my dress wont fit for the party'' or ''my sweety, we just can not have that human soul interfering with my dominant sexual erotic attractions to you and other women...''
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by mr_max1 August 17, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
Just like his employer, CBS, this guy CBS News'' Ryan Corsaro is in the tank for obama. Talk about resorting to stock answers: Corsaro resorted to typical CBS STOCK REPORTING; ie, McCain is bad and the merciful and caring god obama is great.

Corsaro will probably buy dinner for his sister and mother (the two previous posters "underbear1" and "JoeReed007") for agreeing with his tripe.
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by underbear1 August 17, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
MSNBC was in full fever pitch to sell America the STUPID candidate...again.
Who would have guessed KKK linked Tony Perkins, and aging scarey Culture Warrior Pat Robertson would be biased? Hey MSNBC was Fred Phelps too busy to be on the panel?
McCain''s simplistic canned answers without a thoughtful pause and nary a nuance is what America wants...then let''s have a beer together.
I can hear Rove and Cheney chortle with laughter they fooled the evangelicals again with the SAME BAIT. Recall vividly Christian Leaders what a JOKE they think you are, and sent you packing from the White House with NOTHING...every year of their 8 year reign.
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by joereed007 August 17, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
Bush and McCain..two peas in a pod..playing the fear card again...If you would have closed your eyes, I''d swear, you would think it was Bush making those statements. On the other hand, Obama answered his questions outright...McCain did not play by the forum rules and was clearly grasping at the straws.
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