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August 17, 2008 7:25 AM

Crowd Eventually Warmed to Obama at Faith Forum

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From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(LAKE FOREST, CA.) - It’s no secret that Barack Obama has been aggressively courting evangelical voters, but his appearance at the presidential forum at Saddleback Church Saturday night was a clear indication that Christian voters can be a tough bunch.

For starters, Pastor Rick Warren, one of America's most prominent evangelical ministers, was clearly in control of the forum. Although he was cordial, calling both Obama and John McCain his friends, he asked tough questions and didn’t let Obama veer off into his stump.

“Don’t give me your stump speech on these,” Warren told Obama when he asked him about domestic issues.

Warren also often signaled Obama to wrap up his answers at times when it looked like he could veer off onto a tangent. He would give an “uh” or glance at his notes, indicating that Obama needed to speed things up.

The audience at Saddleback was equally as tough as Warren. They respectfully applauded for Obama when he came out on stage, but during the first half of the program, they only clapped a few times. However, as Obama began to express a more conservative position on issues such as marriage, the audience noticeably perked up.

“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman,” Obama said as the crowd applauded, adding that “God’s in the mix.”

Obama’s lines on building bridges across “partisan, racial, and religious lines” also garnered a lot of applause and even a standing ovation at the end.

And when Warren asked Obama to defend his line of questioning, Obama happily obliged. “One of the things if you are a person of faith like me, I believe that things will work out and we will get the president that we need,” Obama said and later added, “I trust in the American people, they are going to make a good decision.”
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by jamwao August 19, 2008 8:09 AM EDT
I did not sense that the crowd warmed up to Barack Obama. It seemed to me that both candidates were treated the same all the way through. I sensed no favoritism on the basis of party or person. On the point of answers there were times when the crowd cheered for both, and they clapped for both. It seemed to be more about the answers they gave then which party they were from. That was probably the most well conducted forum I have ever witnessed on TV. I really appreciated the way Rick Warren kept things on track and his respect for both men was obvious.
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by wurgle1 August 18, 2008 2:04 AM EDT
Why does this article not comment on the blatant lie told by the priest, who said that McCain was in a "cone of silence" when Obama was interviewed, when he was instead in a motorcade, presumably with full TV access? The McCain campaign hasn''t denied it, but they did assure people that McCain did not watch TV. Didn''t say anything about his staff. I am skeptical to say the least. Is this the "pro-obama" bias?
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by patmac991 August 17, 2008 10:45 PM EDT
The worst part about this spectacle: We all know those kinds of poser McCain-type "Christians," who tell everyone else they''re "saved" (by an heiress?) and "forgiven" (lucky you!) and go to church to punch their tickets; but who don''t live a reflective and meaningful life, who don''t what is actually said in the Bible bear the least on their actions and choices. McCain''s unreflective canned answers show him to be, at the very best, a ticket-punching bumper sticker "Christian"
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by underbear1 August 17, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
Three salient facts about McCain

1. he has a temper

2. he told the Religious Right off to their faces, after he was no longer a candidate in 2000

3. he TOSSED a wife (who worked 5 years for his release from North Viet Nam), after she was disfigured and disabled after a near fatal car crash, along with 2 adopted sons and a daughter. He also got his 2nd marriage license to his blonde 15 year younger pillionaire, a MONTH before his divorce was finalised.

While Cheney and Rove laughed with disdain as clueless trusting Evangelicals left their offices with NOTHING, year, after year, after year, even they didn''t tell them off publicly.

These facts will matter if McCain becomes president, he''ll TOSS you Evangelicals in a heart beat. He also won''t invite you back any other year. He''ll do this for SPITE.
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by alicantequee August 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
If one says what people want to hear, it is likely there will be a warm reception which it seems Mcclain received as opposed to a lukewarm reception for Obama. Americans are just so easy to be fooled by con artists like John. We only have to look at the 2 Bush,jr. administrations to know that. A man who finished close to the bottom of his gradulating class as did John would never convince me he has a logical thought. Mc Clain is a bully, a relic from the past. There ought to be less religion and more rational compassion in American politics. Then we might start to become spiritual. I am convinced Obama is more in line with true religious thought than McClain. He probably lies less. When will America become a country in which presidents do not have to be multi-millionaires?
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by jefflz-2009 August 17, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
McCain has brought in Ralph Reed the corrupt bigot and founder of the extreme right wing Christian Coalition. What is in this game for Obama? Does he believe he can outflank McCain on the religious right? That is a complete waste of time and money and an insult to his more progressive supporters. Religion has no place in politics in a country founded upon separation of church and state. Beliefs should remain personal and private they are not a badge of morality. We live in a world where continuous death and destruction is reigned down on the innocent by religious fanatics who believe they have God on their side. Enough already.

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by sfwarrior11 August 17, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
Sure, naturally someone who attended an America hating, racist church for 30 years led by the Rev. Wrong would fit in with a conservative evangelical church.
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by cbsespo August 17, 2008 1:21 PM EDT
One Black , one white.
One Young, one old.
One cerebral, one from the hip.
One sincere, one rehearsed.
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by jpspec August 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
Some post that I read on this and the ABC site, try to convince others that when Obama pauses and stammers it is because he is giving a "thoughtful" answer. I see it different. When Obama stutters he is giving himself "time" to figure out what answer to give that an audiance will like/accept. Of course there are also times when he simply does not know the answer.
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by wellhell3 August 17, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
Posted by zlato at 09:17 AM : Aug 17, 2008

Well said!
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by jmurrieta1 August 17, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
"For starters, Pastor Rick Warren, one of America''s most prominent evangelical ministers, was clearly in control of the forum."

In control??--the man couldn''t shut up for more than 3-4 seconds. You''d have thought it was an interview of Rick Warren. Especially with Obama, every time Obama started to answer, Warren was jumping in with "uh-hu", "ok" and other interruptions. He was quite a bit quieter with McCain, as if he was trying to show off McCain in his best light (still pretty poor).

If we wanted to hear Warren spout off, we''d listen to his sermons. Some sky pilots just can''t shut up.
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by wellhell3 August 17, 2008 1:15 PM EDT
First of all, where''''s your report about McCain.

Secondly, there was no "standing ovation at the end." At the end of BOTH candidates'''' period, Warren INSTRUCTED the audience to stand and thank the candidate.


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Posted by GonzoML at 09:05 AM : Aug 17, 2008

LMAO! Exactly! It''s all about nuance and innuendo when it comes to Obscamma! ANYTHING, any word they can use that projects support, they will use to scam you!
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by wellhell3 August 17, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
%u201CI believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman,%u201D Obama said as the crowd applauded, adding that %u201CGod%u2019s in the mix.%u201D

Well, Obscamma evidently lied right there in church...he has giddly supported Same *** Unions, and used the Sermon on the Mount to try to justify it.
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by javalation August 17, 2008 1:09 PM EDT
Apparently the election is only about Obama since neither McCain''s comments or the responses to them were mentioned. The Republicans and their press will attack everything he does, doesn''t do, says, doesn''t say, wears or doesn''t wear. While Ol John is given a pass and even a cover-up. So much for freedom in America.
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by steve39 August 17, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
Puzzled

Was this supposed to be an article about the event that was organized by Rick Warren or about Senator Obama?

If it was the former, why couldn''t your reporter say anything about Sen. McCain?

I am undecided, but if this is the way CBS reports the election it is clear that this reporter and network is 100% for Obama. It has decided and is no longer reporting but campaigning.
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by chinacheats August 17, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
This priest looks like a lazy fat chitos munching butterball in front of the TV. How dare he be concerned about the hungry when he looks the eats twice the amount daily that a human needs. Most wars are caused by religion. Our forefathers wanted to keep religion out of politics, but the Republicans use WhiteHouseOut to erase the constitution.
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by bufsol50 August 17, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
Obama got quite a few rounds of applause and I didn''t get the impression that the crowd was hostile at all toward him ... maybe reserved initially but not hostile. C''mon CBS stop trying to steer public opinion and accurately report the facts ..... let the American people judge for themselves without your thinly veiled bias
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by knwmn August 17, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
The evangelicals fear God, and I fear the evangelicals, but then I believe in the United States that our forfathers created.
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by zlato-2009 August 17, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
Please - such a spin.

(1) There was not discussion of McCain in this article.

(2) Obama equivoquated the whole evening, never wishing to give a direct answer - his answer as to babies receiving human rights should have been that he places it in the hands of the mother to decided (thus supporting pro-choice) instead of saying it was above his pay grade - I''m sorry, but as President, the buck stops with there.

(3) The audience was already standing for McCain prior to being told to stand (unlike for Obama).

(4) McCain had convection and principles in his answers - they were not rehearsed - he knows what he believes (and not just using catchy words such as ''change'' and ''hope'' - btw, how is ''hope'' audacious?

(5) This is why Obama does not accept the challenge to town hall meetings - he must speak off of the cuff and he is AFRAID to offend someone and hence talks for 5-7 minutes when 20 seconds would have done.

(6) Obama is not a solution for anything, unless you have no courage, moral conviction, honor or princples.
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by patmac991 August 17, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
Obama showed himself to be sincere and reflective about his Christianity. By stark contrast, McCain''s answers and the "Christianity" he espoused (at least pretended to embrace) have the depth of bad bumper stickers. We all know those kinds of poser McCain type "Christians," who tell everyone else they''re "saved" and "forgiven," and go to church to punch their tickets; but who don''t live a reflective and meaningful Christian life, who don''t let the Christianity of the bible bear the least on their actions and choices. McCain''s unreflective canned answers show him to be, at the very best, a ticket-punching bumper sticker "Christian."

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