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August 16, 2008 2:29 PM

Obama Birth Certificate Fuss "Ridiculous"

Anti-Obama and right-wing bloggers have been throwing more and more criticism against the wall to see what sticks. One of their more fanciful charges is that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, born in Hawaii in 1961, is not a U.S. citizen and therefore cannot be elected president.

In the face of Internet insinuations that the Illinois Senator was actually born somewhere outside the U.S. and therefore does not fall within Article II of the Constitution ("A natural born Citizen") and the 14th Amendment, Barack Obama's campaign has posted a copy of his birth certificate on its rumor-discrediting Web site, www.fightthesmears.com. But that still isn’t good enough for some skeptics.

Some Web chatterers question the authenticity of the document, pointing to the lack of a state seal on the online copy. Some also suggest a black rectangle (a redacted identification number, obscured by the state for security reasons) hides something more revealing.

Earlier this week The Honolulu Advertiser reported that Hawaii's Department of Health receives requests weekly for a copy of Obama's birth certificate. [It was their concern about the unending requests that prompted the Obama campaign to take action.]

Officials said that under the law only people with a "tangible interest" (parents, spouses or other relatives, or the subjects themselves) could obtain a copy.

"Our state law is very firm on information on vital records," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo told the Advertiser. "You cannot receive someone else's birth certificate — to protect the person's confidential information."

As for the persistent accusations that Obama is not a U.S. citizen, Okubo replied, "It's pretty ridiculous."

The ruckus recalls a similar controversy during the GOP primaries when the fact that John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone — when his father was serving at a U.S. military base there — caused some to claim he was ineligible to serve as president, not having been "natural born" on U.S. soil.

A bipartisan team of lawyers declared earlier this year that McCain's 1936 birth to U.S. citizens outside the continental United States did not disqualify him from being president.
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by JudgeFrench August 13, 2009 1:01 AM EDT
The only proof that you can actaully have to prove Obamas claim he is a natural born citizen is a long form birth cert. The one that was posted online, I believe it is real, but it don't mean jack. Does not prove you were born a Natural Born Citizen. Without required proof, birth cert provide is worthless!

And the US does limit certain subjects from US citizens. One subject US filters is vaccines, information on what is in these shots US requires us to give our children. If you can get out of US interent without a trace you can find what I am talking about. You better sit down when you read about it, or view videos.

So with that said, everyone remember the guy who had on ebay.com the Obama Birth Cert. For Sale for 1 mil? I got this email from him the other day below, and I am fueling the fire. The only reason this will not post is if the US stops him or stops video from playing in US.

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Yes (and still have), and thank you for writing. You'll see the BC this month (August, 2009). Stay tuned to my youtube channel, youtube.com/inspectorsmith. Also you can take a look at an article I've written, you can find it by searching LUCAS SMITH on google. My article will be on the first page of search results at the bottom. You?ll see a picture of me standing adjacent to a cow. Or you use this link, http://www.google.com/profiles/110044766822103526426
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by actornaught August 19, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
John''s citizenship public debate is comparable the one over BO''s.

Wacky 9/11-conspiracy grade nonsense.

Move along, nothing here for you to see.
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by americanvote August 19, 2008 3:42 AM EDT
Just prove it!! Where is the seal and the sig. How can we vote for someone who is not natural born. W
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by ipublius August 18, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
Senator John McCain was not born in CONUS. He was born to American parents stationed in the Panama Canal Zone, not on American soil. A law had to be passed by the current Congress which declared him eligible.
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by luvienne August 18, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
Ignorance is alive is alive in America. People with brighter minds and degrees would not have let Obama get this far if he wasn''t American. This tactic might work for someone who wants to be spoonfed by the Republicans *** machine. But Americans are showing an interest in the truth and voting their OWN mind, instead of being told what to think and how to vote.
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by actornaught August 18, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
Posted by misha128 at 10:07 AM : Aug 18, 2008

It''s alot easier for ''cons like jongood to win an arguement if they get to redefine what and who they''ve been told to rail against. You have to let go the concept that they actually think about what they say.

I listened to oreilly one day interviewing a history professor and PhD about a book he''d written, and billo refused to accept his definition of "fascism". Pretty damm funny, until you realize the idiots listening would only hear billo.
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by misha128-2009 August 18, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
JonGood53 - What is your definition of fascism? Traditionally it appears to be alignment of the state''s power structure and business interests. If that is so, are the fascists not the Republicans that have provided relatively free access to the nations treasury for contractors in Iraq without requiring minimal levels of performance? Including the contamination of troops with unsafe water, death and injury to troops from faulty construction, prison facilities with walls that are structurally deficient (currently housing birds and sand), police training centers that are filling with sewage and many other incomplete or non-existent projects.
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by reunionpi August 18, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
Obama''s mother''s original Social Security Number Application

webofdeception.com/obamamother''sssapplication.html


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by jongood53 August 18, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
The brokeback mountain forum we saw this weekend is going to be the closest thing to a debate you will ever see Sen. NObama, the puppet these fascist who run the DNC installed, ever get close to.

There is no way he''ll ever enter a townhall style debate. This 50%-Amerifrican knows he can''t take on a real American in a non-scripted forum.

Heck, one slip up and Sen. NObama could destroy all the effort the fascist leadership of the DNC put in disenfranchising enough votes so their "Super Delegates" could install this Amerifrican puppet.
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by jongood53 August 18, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
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Yes! An important point is that Americans recognized our need and demanded change and sought a President who could lead again, and drafted Obama to run. Obama is not calling for change, he is answering the call.
Posted by andor3

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Let''s get one thing absolutely clear....For zero debate about this:

America did not "draft[] Obama to run."

The fascist who run the DNC disenfranchised the votes of sufficient numbers of you DemoTard lemmings during the primary so their secret "Super Delegate" network could install Sen. NObama as their puppet.

We''ve seen this exact tactic used every time a dictator has ever come to power.

I''ve told you folks time and again, we are witnessing Libtards doing exactly what they do best.....

Working to destroy America as built, so they can implement the "CHANGE" as they rebuild it into the NEW AMERICA....

A MARXIST AMERICA that all DemoTards dream of.
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by jongood53 August 18, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
I heard just this morning the girlyman Sen. NObama is already sniveling about how, "John McCain got to hear some of my responses before he went on."

Boo Hoo, I am such a little wussie. This is why I have been such a scaredy cat to face this feeble old dim wit in a townhall format.

To which I respond:
It''s okay Sen. NObama, we real Americans all know the true reason is, a 50%-American like you couldn''t hold up in a real time, non-prescripted style debate against John McCain.

You would likely soil yourself in front of millions.
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by zerato-2009 August 18, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
Posted by popstom1 at 12:17 AM : Aug 18, 2008
Posted by johnpotus at 03:56 AM : Aug 18, 2008

Your racism and ignorance astonishes me. It is laughable that you used yourself as a source? LMAO
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by misha128-2009 August 18, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
johnpotus -- Does thoroughly researched by Indonesian newspapers and Indonesian television mean the writing of a single blogger? Have you even bothered to research the qualifications and background of those you choose to accept so blindly at face value? Why do conservatives find arrogance and ignorance such admirable traits? Why do conservative''s believe they can quote themselves as authorities on matters in their own books? Doesn''t true scholarly work require development of the justification by a consensus of opinion and a preponderance of the evidence and not sensationalism of radical theories of fringe writers of unknown or little known qualifications?
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by tulcak August 18, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
wouldn''t the right wing freaks love to disqualify Sen. Obama. They are afraid. And they should be. But, they shouldn''t be afraid of Sen. Obama as president, they should be afraid of their own bigotry and hatred - you do know that prejudice people go to hell? Would Jesus hate nig**s?
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by johnpotus August 18, 2008 6:56 AM EDT
Corsi''s new book alleges that Obama is on the extreme left of American politics, and has extensive connections to Islam and with radical racial politics.

"He was registered as a Muslim. The documentation -- I thoroughly researched it from the Indonesian newspapers and Indonesian television. He attended mosque with his stepfather," he said on CNN''s Larry King Live on Wednesday night. "The friends who were in school with him attest that he was then considered a Muslim. And that''''s the testimony of the people in Indonesia who grew up in those six years."
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by johnpotus August 18, 2008 6:54 AM EDT
No he don''t look like us he looks like a monkey

Posted by popstom1 at 12:17 AM : Aug 18, 2008

I don''t want a monkey for President.
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by popstom1 August 18, 2008 3:17 AM EDT
No he don''t look like us he looks like a monkey
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by kojipham August 18, 2008 2:53 AM EDT
Ha, the right wing automatons are here again with there lies - Obama does not look like us, so he must be everything we fear - he must be muslim, he must be non-American and on, and on with their lies to scare the least informed and easily fooled. These agents of fear and lies are back again, like they were four years ago and will be again four years from now. But this time (Now Listen Up!) you will lose, this time you will fail. Your game is up. Sure you will fool some people, but the vast majority of the population, (the reasonable ones), have had enough of you, enough of George Bush and enough of his latest incarnation: John McCain. So, carry on spreading your lies my foolish compatriot. Your reign is almost at an end.
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by jpspec August 18, 2008 1:19 AM EDT
Why does Obama produce his birth certificate to end the controversy?
He did put it up on his web site but this does not make it possible to determine if it is a forgery. This is one "smear" that Obama could quickly end. This should be done befor the convention.
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by yeswecan09 August 17, 2008 11:36 PM EDT
****Obama has NOT released, or posted, his Birth Certificate. ****

How goofy can you possibly get?

You mean to tell me the Obama got to his Senate seat and no body, not the CIA or FBI checked his birth records?

There is a well known picture of Obama standing next to Richard Cheney, (yes the VP of the US)while holding a bible in his hands getting sworn in to his seat.

You would think that Richard Cheney would have leaned over and said something to Obama if his birth certificate was fake

If you are going to run a Swiftboat, put some gas in your engine.
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