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July 25, 2008 1:35 PM

Pentagon: It Was Obama Camp's "Decision To Cancel" Visit to Troops

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From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(BERLIN,GERMANY) UPDATE, 1:30pm ET Barack Obama spent the morning working in his room at Berlin's Adelon Hotel after the campaign canceled a planned visit to Ramstein Airbase and Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. Late last night, the campaign canceled the planned troop visit because they said they did not want to politicize the meeting.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told CBS News today, "The senator is more than welcome to visit any military facility, he always has been and always will be, as a senator."

"The Pentagon was willing to accomodate the fact they were on a campaign trip," Morrell added, saying that the Pentagon would have kept the campaign staff and traveling press outside while Obama was inside visiting the troops.

"It was their decision to cancel the visit," Morrell said.

On today's flight from Berlin to Paris, Obama campaign communications director Robert Gibbs tried to clarify why the meeting at Ramstein was canceled. "He could go as a United States Senator, but it was pretty clear from the guidance that we received from the Pentagon that the trip would be viewed as a campaign stop. Given the info that we had received, Senator Obama made the decision that we were not going have wounded men and women become involved in a campaign trip."

Initially, Gibbs said Obama thought it would be "inappropriate" to visit troops on a visit funded by the campaign. The troop meetings in Afghanistan and Iraq were part of a congressional delegation trip, not paid for by the campaign.

This morning, senior adviser Gen. Scott Gration shifted the blame to the Pentagon, saying they advised the campaign against the visit.

"We learned from the Pentagon last night that the visit would be viewed instead as a campaign event," Gration said. "Senator Obama did not want to have a trip to see our wounded warriors percieved as a campaign event when his visit was to show his appreciation for our troops and decided instead not to go.” Gration is currently traveling with the campaign.

After the cancellation was announced yesterday, a McCain spokesman hammered Obama in a written statement: “Barack Obama is wrong. It is never ‘inappropriate’ to visit our men and women in the military.”

Gibbs responded to the criticism this morning saying, "We might have gotten criticism for going, we have been critcized for not going."

CBS News' Steve Chaggaris contributed to this report.
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by vincan-2009 July 28, 2008 2:44 AM EDT
How dare you besmirch Senator Obama''s prayer at the wall that was not to be viewed at all by anyone!! You are low, lower than low. You are pathetic.
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by vincan-2009 July 28, 2008 2:38 AM EDT
You do not know what you are talking about. McCain was in Germany in March and a lot closer to the military hospital than Senator Obama and did not visit or ever plan it in his schedule. Obama has visited wounded troops in the U.S. at Walter Reed several times. He visited the wounded troops in Iraq when he was there last week. There are no shots of that being played anywhere because Senator Obama went unobserved and visited with no press and no big deal. You may try as much as you want but McCain is the one who comes up short with his angry ranting and this ad that is a big lie and the McCain campaign knows it..
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by howdydoody6 July 28, 2008 12:04 AM EDT
Thats a big lie that the Pentagon told Obama that the trip to visit the troops and the wounded soldiers would violate a pentagon policy. All Obama had to do if he really "cared" about our military troops is explain how important it was to show them how much he supported them and tell them what a wonderful job they were doing but the truth is he could care less about our soldiers. To this day he will not admit that the surge is working when he said it wouldn''t, he doesn''t have the brains to think through how dangerous it will be to pull the troops out in 16 months like he wants to even though he''s been told over and over again. How many members of our troops and wounded soldiers plus their family members do you think are going to vote for him? Does he think they are so stupid that they can''t see him for what he is?? Howdydoody6 July 27
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by tbweb July 27, 2008 5:34 AM EDT
Another non issue blown out of proportion! I guess when people don''t have anything of substance to trash Sen. Obama with anything will do. Sen. Obama was going to take a hit on this issue either way, so the smart thing to do would have been to visit the troops, get the credit and then take the hit for using the visit as a campaign stop. The old catch-22, dammed if he did, dammed if he didn''t! A no win situation.
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by johnbush2-2009 July 27, 2008 1:42 AM EDT
The overseas trip was a complete waste of time and money. The only thing Obama accomplished was organising a free rock concert for German teenagers. Most of them stayed behind to thank him and get the freebies that his campaign volunteers were giving out. Big deal.
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by grammawhamma July 26, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
Over enthusiasm from the point of self righteous political interests without extending support for troops by not visiting them is a direct insult to America. Obama is not ready to lead, not ready to change, not ready to be a commander, he is only ready to toot his own horn. That is not "Service to Americans" that is AUDACITY.

Posted by Ariel133 at 01:35 PM : Jul 25, 2008

I thought the above post was worth repeating.

If Obama couldn''t use the wounded troops for a photo shoot I guess he didn''t want to be bothered by them. I''m glad the media is giving Obama all the attention because the more I see of him...the more he convinces me he is not worthy to be POTUS.
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by dnsallday July 26, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
Barack Obama canceled a pre-planned visit to the troops in Germany yesterday after being told by the Pentagon that the trip would violate a Pentagon policy prohibiting campaign stops on military installations. No problem there.

However, the McCain campaign is now blasting Obama:

The McCain camp has nonetheless been using Obama''s canceled trip to insinuate that he''s anti-troops. "Barack Obama is wrong," McCain spokesperson Brian Rogers said in a statement yesterday. "It is never ''inappropriate'' to visit our men and women in the military."

The problem here is that the McCain campaign was denied a visit to a military base under the same policy back in April.
Of course, there was no outcry or false outrage from Brian Rogers at that time.

From CNN:

With Department of Defense rules prohibiting political campaigning on military bases, it was determined that in some cases McCain could visit the installations as a senator but could not engage in any political activity or have news media present.

McCain campaign officials said Thursday they intentionally did not campaign on military property.

"We follow the rules," said senior McCain adviser Steve Schmidt
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by tbweb July 26, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama%u2019s Big Rally
By Robert Knight

From CNN to the New York Times, the media hyped Barack Obama''''s Portland, Oregon rally on Sunday, some comparing him to a rock star.

Unmentioned in national reporting was the fact that Obama was preceded by a rare, 45-minute free concert by actual rock stars The Decemberists.

There was no mention of The Decemberists, and the Times described the weather as "an unseasonably hot day."


Posted by Alicerea1 at 06:33 AM : Jul 26, 2008,,,

It`s not that unusual to have live entertainment to keep extraordinarily large crowds entertained. Your implied suggestion that the "only" reason for the large crowd was because of the entertainment and not to see Sen. Obama is bogus since Sen. Obama always draws large crowds. If Sen. Obama didn`t always draw a large crowd your argument might have some weight to it, but Sen. Obama gets the nod in this case because he always draws a large crowd, with or without entertainment!
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by alicerea1 July 26, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama%u2019s Big Rally
By Robert Knight

From CNN to the New York Times, the media hyped Barack Obama''s Portland, Oregon rally on Sunday, some comparing him to a rock star.

Unmentioned in national reporting was the fact that Obama was preceded by a rare, 45-minute free concert by actual rock stars The Decemberists.

There was no mention of The Decemberists, and the Times described the weather as "an unseasonably hot day."

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by alicerea1 July 26, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama%u2019s Big Rally
By Robert Knight

From CNN to the New York Times, the media hyped Barack Obama''s Portland, Oregon rally on Sunday, some comparing him to a rock star.

Unmentioned in national reporting was the fact that Obama was preceded by a rare, 45-minute free concert by actual rock stars The Decemberists.

There was no mention of The Decemberists, and the Times described the weather as "an unseasonably hot day."

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by alicerea1 July 26, 2008 9:04 AM EDT

Will Media Report Concert Before Obama''s Berlin Speech?
News busters.org
July 24, 2008 - 13:38 ET

Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in Portland, Oregon -- supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama -- but chose not to report the free concert given before his speech?

Well, it has been learned that before the presumptive Democrat nominee spoke to a crowd in Berlin Thursday, two popular German acts -- reggae artist Patrice and rock band Reamonn -- entertained the gathering audience.

Will media report this tonight, or just gush and fawn over the huge crowd again?

While you ponder, here''s what was reported by Spiegel Online moments ago (h/t Hot Air and Gateway):

+ Pop Concert for Obama Fans
6:33 p.m.: The tens of thousands of Obama fans are being entertained as they await the senator. The reggae musician Patrice kicked things off, followed by the rock band Reamonn.

I''m sure this will be part of ALL media reports concerning this speech...not!

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by karela33 July 26, 2008 6:53 AM EDT
The Pentagon OK''d the visit to wounded in Germany two weeks ago. Then the day before the trip, they say it''s a campaign event. It was a set up. Da*ned if he does and da*ned if he doesn''t. The day before the trip Bush tells all U.S. embassies not to assist him. Since when doesn''t an embassy assist any American, let alone a U.S. Senator? The day before he gets to Berlin Bush tells all foreign service workers that they can''t attend his speech even though it was outside of working hours. None of these things happened before McCain went to the same places. It was a little too cute that Columbia, who wants Bush to get their trade agreement passed, just happened to send their military to rescue the French woman who was a hostage and it just happened that McCain was there to greet her. Bush has always used the U.S. government for political advantage and he''s doing it again. If Obama had gone, McCain, and McCain knew all about this in advance, then the story line would have been that Obama was "using wounded Americans for political advantage." While Obama was actually in the air on the way to a war zone, McCain broke Secret Service and State Department security directives and announced that Obama was going to a war zone. Why hasn''t anyone wondered how McCain knew that? And why didn''t he take flack from the networks for endangering a presidential candidate''s life? The whole thing was a set up.
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by tbweb July 26, 2008 2:53 AM EDT
Most Americans have no clue where John McCain stands on the issues.

Posted by danstoned at 03:49 PM : Jul 25, 2008

Posted by starleo14672 at 04:02 PM : Jul 25, 2008

That''s because McCain of 2008, is running AGAINST the platform of McCain of 2000.

How can ANYONE keep track of his position on the issues, when he flip flops so much?

Posted by hungry1968 at 04:31 PM : Jul 25, 2008,,,

There is some truth to that, if the McCain of 2000 could spin the clock forward and see the McCain of 2008, the McCain of 2000 would think the McCain of 2008 had lost his mind! One thing is for sure, this is not the traditional John McCain of yore, this is the "status quo" new and improved version of John McCain. This also may be a dirty trick being played on Republicans by John McCain! Maybe McCain really hasn''t changed at all, maybe McCain is just doing what he needs to do to get elected and once President will transform back into the old John McCain! That may be whats going on here! John McCain is a true Republican like Chuck Hagel is a true Republican, I don''t think so!
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by kate1149 July 25, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
I have no doubt that the Pentagon did not want wounded troops to be associated with the Obama trip because that would draw attention to the fact that there ARE troops who have been horribly wounded. The Pentagon would prefer that the American people didn''t focus on that part of their supposed success in Iraq. The Pentagon would just like to pretend that these brave men and women didn''t exist (just like the news media has) and keep them a secret so they can discharge them without providing fully for their medical and mental injuries. The treatment of our wounded and returning vets by the Bush Administration has been a disgrace.
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by jraf766 July 25, 2008 9:19 PM EDT
I maybe in the military but have not lost my right to voice my opion off duty or cant vote.

I live off post and can vote for whoever I want long as Im not in uniform. This year will be the biggest turn out of voters.
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by starleo146 July 25, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
Of course McSame claimed it was never "inappropriate" to visit our troops. . .Republicans have always viewed the military as an extension of their political party and have repeatedly used (against regulations, of course) uniformed troops as a backdrop and prop to their own campaign speeches.

Posted by kevinbgoode at 04:25 PM : Jul 25, 2008

Was is appropriate for Mc Bush to go down the streets of Baghdad and say it was safe and use our military troops and helicopters to protect the liar. You Mc Bush people are so obvious. It is ok for you but not anyone else What about it
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by vincan-2009 July 25, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
Senator Obama goes quietly and without press to visit the wounded troops in America and visited the wounded troups in the Green Zone when he was in Iraq, and he will continue to do so. Does McCain visit the wounded troups? That I don''t know. There is pitiful whining going on with McCain, and a pathetic attempt by republicans to make every wonderful thing Obama does look as ugly as they are.
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by jraf766 July 25, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
Obama has never insulted us. So what if he didnt visit in years, ***? why would you go over there if you dont have to.

I dont like anyways when VIPs visit creates a big headache, for those who served know what Im talking about.

We need to go into Pakistan, Increase the military first to 2,000,000 so we would have back to back deployments. We need a bigger Army period.

Iran the hell with Iran we can just make them a big dust hole. With out putting my boots on the ground.
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by starleo146 July 25, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
The Pentagon is fast becoming another wing of the Republiscum party. Stick to wars, stay out of politics.

Posted by HarryDoghiny at 02:46 PM : Jul 25, 2008

Mr. Bush is the commander in chief and he tells the pentagon what he wants and very rarely do they not do what the commander in chief wants so in affect they are also a mouthpiece to the commander in chief. but you are right mr. Bush probably put them up to speak up and they shouldn''t
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by jraf766 July 25, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
mccain I respect him, but he has lost touch with his military backround.

We already won Iraq. Saddam is dead, now what. That was our mission in the first place regime change. Its done, we need to come home now.
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