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July 10, 2008 12:25 PM

McCain Adviser Says U.S. In A "Mental Recession," Not An Actual One

Phil Gramm, a former senator and top economic policy adviser to presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, has suggested in an interview with the Washington Times that the U.S. is in a "mental recession" as opposed to a real one.

"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," he told the newspaper. "We may have a recession; we haven't had one yet."

"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he added. "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline" despite a boom in exports.

"Misery sells newspapers," said Gramm, who argues the U.S. has never been more dominant. "Thank God the economy is not as bad as you read in the newspaper every day."

The economy is the number one issue for U.S. voters, and most have a dark assessment of the present situation. In an April CBS News poll, 78 percent of respondents said things are worse now than they were five years ago - the highest percentage since CBS News began asking the question in 1986. Sixty-six percent of those polled said the country is in a recession.

The Times writes that Gramm noted that "growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices."

The newspaper added that the McCain advisor "expects Mr. McCain to inherit a sluggish economy if he wins the presidency, weighed down above all by the conviction of many Americans that economic conditions are the worst in two or three decades and that America is in decline."

UPDATE: The McCain campaign has released a statement distancing itself from the comments.

“Phil Gramm’s comments are not representative of John McCain’s views. John McCain travels the country every day talking to Americans who are hurting, feeling pain at the pump and worrying about how they’ll pay their mortgage. That’s why he has a realistic plan to deliver immediate relief at the gas pump, grow our economy and put Americans back to work.”
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by rgrxx175 July 10, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
Sen. John McCain is clearly not a fan of workers%u2019 freedom to form unions and bargain for better wages and benefits. He has spoken out against unions and consistently voted against collective bargaining rights for workers. Union members know the right to bargain is essential to preserving good jobs with good wages and benefits.
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by kenhamlett July 10, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
More NEWSPEAK.

The truth is that we were used to be in an overheated market due to false economic theories touted as fundamentals which fooled the public. That was "Mental Stimulus" AKA Bull????
Now we are experiencing backlash for all the years of falsehood. AKA ???? hits the fan.
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by mattcat25 July 10, 2008 1:24 PM PDT
Recession means the lack of confidence in the overall economy. Thus, People are more likely to hold on to assets (both fluid and solid) and not spend, or invest as much as they might in a thriving economy. The lack of confidence in spending slows down the economy hence slowing and possibly negating growth. Two consecutive negative growth quarters in one year would reflect a recession.

Meanwhile, high earning industries (like War Contractors and Oil Companies) are reaping great benefits of a down market by purchasing low and then turning around to sell high. It%u2019s all been cooked by the Conservative free to manipulate market.

John McCain is attempting here to hypnotize his easily coddled base into believing that their money hasn%u2019t been stolen by the top 1% wealthy earners in the US and Dubai.
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by ixoye_02 July 10, 2008 1:33 PM PDT
Doesn''t Kermit the frog (aka Phil Gramm) have anything better to do than to offer weak arguments. There is alot of whining going on because things are BAD at many levels for the average American. Gramm is a wealthy man, so his family is taken care of and has all the money they need to keep themselves healthy and happy. But what about the working-class families that have to juggle energy costs against food and health care expenses when wages have been stagnant and costs keep going up?
My response to Gramm....Rrribbitt!!!
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by nanc12 July 10, 2008 1:42 PM PDT
I originally thought that perhaps Gramm was speaking of McSame''s apparent senility, lol.

I guess the gist of their views is that if you lose your house or your job, it''s all in your mind. The economy is just fine, we''re not going to change any of Bush''s fiscal policies. So stop your whining! Thanks, John McCain
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by mike55rose July 10, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
Wher are the big headlines. If an Obama staff member said anything as stupid as this, ever media outlet would be falling over themselves to give it the greatest prominence possible. For all of Gramm''s political exsistence he has shown total disrespect for the American people. This just one more example. If you vote for McCain don''t blame us whiners for the depression and unemployment that follows. Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania have permanently lost good high paying jobs. These jobs are not coming back. This data is just the "imagination of us whiners". What we need is a shrink to help us find them. Anyone voting for McCain deserves all the great acheivement that Bush has brought us. Unfortunately all of will suffer the consequences. So let us all go through Alice''s looking glass to find the wonderful world that Gramm and McCain will bring us. I guess being neurotic isn''t that bad.
CBS get on the ball and give this story the prominence it deserves.
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by jsilver2th July 10, 2008 2:03 PM PDT
I wish the media would quit interviewing McCain until after the convention because his delegates are going to start defecting and so will the GOP as they can see he will he will preside over their greatest blunder in history...
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by DCropp July 10, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
If McCain and the Republicans want us to quite whining, they should stop giving the oil companies $1.2 billion in tax breaks.

When McCain announced his energy policy and still included $1.2 billion for Exxon/Mobil many of us cried.

I had to break into my children''s piggy banks just to put food on our table.

Senator McCain and Gramm are American zeroes, not heroes.
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by memekiller July 10, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
Obama denounce Clark, but we had a week or so of nonsense over that. Obviously, we''ll all speculate that Gramm is crossed off any list for a cabinet post, right?
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by zerato-2009 July 10, 2008 2:45 PM PDT
Phil Gramm the designer of the Mccain economic policy and the enron loophole and the mortgage failure, tells americans taht we are whiners and we are imagining the hard times. Then Mccain throws him under the bus with the lobbyists that were tossed earlier.
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by christinawes July 10, 2008 7:48 PM PDT
It''s good that the McCain team is coordinating their talking points, as John McCain''s been talking about how the problems with the economy, gas prices, energy, et al, and his proposals to solve them, are ''mostly psychological'', for months now.

Alternative energy? McCain will harness the power of the subconscious, store it in a science-contest-prize battery, and use it to power your new ''horseless carriage''.

Go McCain!

http://www.womenforjohnmccain.com/
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by aj4321-2009 July 10, 2008 9:54 PM PDT
%u201CPhil Gramm%u2019s comments are not representative of John McCain%u2019s views."

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I guess McCain campaign should carry a sign to signify when they mean something and when they don''t. I am getting tired of these statements saying they did not mean it. Then why the heck did you say it????
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by pjones501 July 11, 2008 4:42 AM PDT
HA! The only ones having themselves a mental recession are those Obama supporters. You might say the bottom has fallen out of their brains.
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by kjgp1-2009 July 11, 2008 7:14 AM PDT


I''d offer that Mr Gramm can come run my shop, pay my bills, and feed my kids and then tell me how the economy is doing,

recession of the mind, what an absolutely idiotic comment
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by indyvet66 July 11, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
I take John McCain at his previous word when he admitted to not knowing much about economics. His top economic advisor believes that our economic woes are merely psychological.

These are the wrong guys to lead America in a 21st century global economy.
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by indyvet66 July 11, 2008 8:08 AM PDT
John McCain and George Bush started an unnecessary war that has drained more than $1 Trillion from the U. S. treasury and driven the dollar to record lows.

Now he wants to start a third war in the Middle East with Iran. That does not seem like the road to economic prosperity.
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by indyvet66 July 11, 2008 8:09 AM PDT
McCain has no concrete plan to meet our economic challenges that are adversely impacting and threatening most Americans and rapidly eroding our way of life.

We must create a sound and competitive economy - and to do that, we must address global economic challenges (such as creating innovative energy policies, creating and exporting advanced (clean-tech) energy technologies & industries to places like China and India, and becoming energy independent).

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by indyvet66 July 11, 2008 8:09 AM PDT
As for Tax Policy, John McCain opposed President Bush%u2019s tax cuts for the wealthy in 2000. Back then, McCain accurately said %u201CWe had an opportunity to provide much more tax relief to millions of hard-working Americans. I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief.%u201D That was the old John McCain %u2013 the %u201CMaverick.%u201D

Now, McCain endorses these same trickle down George Bush economic policies that have been failing the middle class and escalating our national debt since 2000. Now, in 2008, John McCain wants to make those tax cuts permanent. That is just a classic flip-flop and political pandering to get votes.

These are the same old tired George Bush policies that created our economic problems in the first place.
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by indyvet66 July 11, 2008 8:11 AM PDT
One more thing...Phil Gramm is an idiot - and he is John McCain''s Chief Economic Advisor.

That should tell you all you need to know about John McCain.
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by indyvet66 July 11, 2008 8:12 AM PDT
I take John McCain at his previous word when he admitted to not knowing much about economics.

Now Phil Gramm (McCain''s top Economic Advisor) believes that our economic woes are merely psychological.

These are the wrong guys to lead America in a 21st century global economy.


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by chrisl45 July 11, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
John McCain is at the head of a winning campaign. God bless America and our troops abroad
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by mbcsmith July 11, 2008 9:58 AM PDT

These are the same old tired George Bush policies that created our economic problems in the first place.



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Posted by IndyVet66 at 08:09 AM : Jul 11, 2008


It just amazes me how LIBS desire higher taxes, knowing that Obama will raise taxes on everyone as his stated policies have shown. The accross the board Bush tax cuts stimilated the economy for six years. It''s time to lower the burden on both individuals and corporations to invigorate a slowing economy.
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by jd2408 July 11, 2008 12:53 PM PDT
The accross the board Bush tax cuts stimilated the economy for six years. It''''s time to lower the burden on both individuals and corporations to invigorate a slowing economy.

Posted by mbcsmith at 09:58 AM : Jul 11, 2008
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WRONG.....Tax cuts put America in debt at a time of war along with Republican spending.

What stimulated the economy was construction and housing. We found out all that stimulation was done on fake credit and a very poor Federal Reserve policy.

We want this country out of debt, stop jobs from being outsourced, control our borders and implement alternative fuel policies, implement environmental protections.

Many of us are the middle of the road Americans. We care about our country.

True conservatives I have found are for low taxes, no welfare or help of any kind to the poor, open borders for cheap labor in the US, free trade agreements for cheap slave labor outside the US. Polution of the air and water by no environmental standards, and most of all WAR FOR OIL.



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by ibzjem July 11, 2008 1:44 PM PDT
As far as taxes go. I think most of us just want fair taxes across the board. If you make more, then you are in a hight tax bracket. Why is it that CEOs pay %20 tax while secretaries pay %28+ tax?

while I agree you can''t make poor people rich by making rich people poor, you can tax the rich appropriately!!!
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by rob416 July 12, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
Former Senator Phil Gramm is quite an asset to Barrack Obama. Keep the stupid comments coming Phil. You were a jerk when you served in the Senate and I can see nothing is different in private life.

It may be easy for John McCain to distance himself from Gramm''s remarks, but since he is an econonmic adviser to the McCain campaign it may be a little difficult. One can''t help but wonder what judgement John McCain used when making the appointment.
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