Obama: I'll Fight To Strip Telecom Immunity From FISA
(CBS/AP) - Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., issued a statement in support of the House's update of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, but said he would try to strip a provision granting immunity to telecommunication companies when the bill comes to a vote in the Senate next week.
The House approved a compromise bill Friday that would set new electronic surveillance rules that would also shield telecoms from lawsuits arising from their participation in the government's warrantless eavesdropping on telephone and computer lines in the United States.
The government eavesdropped on American phone and computer lines for almost six years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks without permission from the FISA Court, the special panel established for that purpose under the original 1978 law.
Some 40 lawsuits have been filed against the telecommunications companies by groups and individuals who say the Bush administration illegally monitored their phone calls or e-mails.
Obama said there is "little doubt" that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, "has abused [its] authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders."
"Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program.
"[The bill] does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."
The House approved the legislation 293-129.
The White House had threatened to veto any surveillance bill that did not also shield the companies.
Critics say granting immunity to telecoms would scrap the pending lawsuits and prevent any public airing of details about the government's surveillance activities.
Last February, when an earlier version of the FISA bill came to a vote, Obama voted for an amendment to strip the telecom immunity provision from the bill. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voted in favor of keeping immunity for the telecoms.
Speaking in an interview to be aired on Bloomberg television this weekend, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said that he may schedule a separate vote on stripping immunity from the bill, although he expressed pessimism about its success.
"Probably we can't take that out of the bill, but I'm going to try," Reid told "Political Capital with Al Hunt."
The House approved a compromise bill Friday that would set new electronic surveillance rules that would also shield telecoms from lawsuits arising from their participation in the government's warrantless eavesdropping on telephone and computer lines in the United States.
The government eavesdropped on American phone and computer lines for almost six years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks without permission from the FISA Court, the special panel established for that purpose under the original 1978 law.
Some 40 lawsuits have been filed against the telecommunications companies by groups and individuals who say the Bush administration illegally monitored their phone calls or e-mails.
Obama said there is "little doubt" that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, "has abused [its] authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders."
"Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program.
"[The bill] does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."
The House approved the legislation 293-129.
The White House had threatened to veto any surveillance bill that did not also shield the companies.
Critics say granting immunity to telecoms would scrap the pending lawsuits and prevent any public airing of details about the government's surveillance activities.
Last February, when an earlier version of the FISA bill came to a vote, Obama voted for an amendment to strip the telecom immunity provision from the bill. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) voted in favor of keeping immunity for the telecoms.
Speaking in an interview to be aired on Bloomberg television this weekend, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said that he may schedule a separate vote on stripping immunity from the bill, although he expressed pessimism about its success.
"Probably we can't take that out of the bill, but I'm going to try," Reid told "Political Capital with Al Hunt."
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See all 265 CommentsThese few posters here on CBS are left over Rush Limbaugh Ditto Bots attempting to sustain a division amongst Democratic and Independent Voters.
The reality about Rush Limbaugh''s Operation Chaos is that a majority of Republican Voters have left the Party in earnest due to the results and actions of the Bush Administration.
The Republican Party refuses to change and have nominated John McCain to carry on another term of the same Bush Policies even at the detriment of former Republican Voters that have found the Party disappointing.
I guess the Republicans feel that they will be able to convolute and dispute another election using Voter Fraud and Voting Machine Manipulation again.
It''s OPERATION CHAOS MY FRIENDTHZZZ!
All of the lies and deceptions came from Hillary (sniper fire?) and Bill Clinton neither of which would recognize the truth if it jumped up and bit ''em on the butt!!!!
Whatta crock!
Obama Supports FISA Legislation, Angering Left
By Paul Kane
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) today announced his support for a sweeping intelligence surveillance law that has been heavily denounced by the liberal activists who have fueled the financial engines of his presidential campaign.
In his most substantive break with the Democratic Party''''s base since becoming the presumptive nominee, Obama declared he will support the bill when it comes to a Senate vote, likely next week, despite misgivings about legal provisions for telecommunications corporations that cooperated with the Bush administration''''s warrantless surveillance program of suspected terrorists.
In so doing, Obama sought to walk the fine political line between GOP accusations that he is weak on foreign policy -- Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called passing the legislation a "vital national security matter" -- and alienating his base.
"Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program," Obama said in a statement hours after the House approved the legislation 293-129.
He''''ll carefully monitor it RIGHTTTTTTTT!
Are you for real with this? Why do you think Bush has threatened repeatedly to veto any bill that does not protect the companies they coerced to break the law? Why do the telecoms need immunity from prosecution if the spying amounted to just a few FBI errors? Where did you follow this story...Faux News? Did Limbaugh tell you in was not so? Ignorance is bliss, I do suppose.
Any credible source material to back this statement up? I have kept an eye on this story for some time, and other than the FBI voluntarily bringing forward a couple of mistakes, I have never seen anything that backs this statement up. Repeating it ad-infinitum on lefty blogs & media constitutes truth to some, but not me.
Thing is...we don''t think John McCain is Bush. He''s never been Bush and never will be Bush.
And the reason we supported Hillary Clinton was because we DID NOT SUPPORT Barak Obama and his shill game candidacy! And never will!
Whatta crock!
Obama Supports FISA Legislation, Angering Left
By Paul Kane
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) today announced his support for a sweeping intelligence surveillance law that has been heavily denounced by the liberal activists who have fueled the financial engines of his presidential campaign.
In his most substantive break with the Democratic Party''s base since becoming the presumptive nominee, Obama declared he will support the bill when it comes to a Senate vote, likely next week, despite misgivings about legal provisions for telecommunications corporations that cooperated with the Bush administration''s warrantless surveillance program of suspected terrorists.
In so doing, Obama sought to walk the fine political line between GOP accusations that he is weak on foreign policy -- Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called passing the legislation a "vital national security matter" -- and alienating his base.
"Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program," Obama said in a statement hours after the House approved the legislation 293-129.
He''ll carefully monitor it RIGHTTTTTTTT!
We''re stuck in a never-ending war in the Middle East costing billions of dollars each month. The housing market continues to spiral downwards. Unemployment is out of control. And yet, there are people who want to vote for a repuke who admitted he didn''t know much about economics. An entire electorate is hurting and the best repuglicans can offer is a third Bush term? Seriously?!
Meanwhile, the top oil companies are moving back into Iraq to start the profit machine all over again. Do you repukes on here really think your party has your best interest in mind?
Obama''s campaign has created a perception of "We the People," and in politics it''s all about perceptions. He is indeed a smart man and exactly what this country needs right now.
Nothing was stolen from you. Your campaign made serious mistakes and you got beat. Your candidate, who I admire by the way, stood up there and spun a fabulous tale about sniper fire despite video evidence to the contrary. This reminded too many people, such as myself, of the down-side of the Clinton years. While there were many great things that came from the Clinton era (fiscal discipline at the top of the list), the constant lies and splitting of the lawyerly truths got extremely difficult to defend. That is what cost Hillary...the return of Clinton fatigue in a year begging for political change. Had she not had the baggage from Bill"s problems...and her own...who knows? Quit griping and get on board the train. Little separates Hillary and Barack in terms of policy. Little separates Bush and McCain in terms of policy and ideology. You decide.
Very thoughtful and well-articulated response. I will allow objective readers to judge the merits of my arguments versus the guttural ravings of you, francophile, and your ilk (islamofascist boy). When you can put together a cogent and substantiated response we will debate. Until then, why not try Islamo''s tactic: go to google, type in a search word or two, and then paste some random quotes, predominantly off the topic. If you cannot sound intelligent yourself, find some ramblings from a noted scholar and intellectual like Thomas Sowell (pun intended).
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http://www.cloudbyte.com/traitors.html
err this why Hillary supports Obama and is doing campaigning for him.you are no doubt a troll,Copying and pasting this same tripe on every article
"Every last one of OsamaObama''''s supporters are hyphenated-AmericansBeastof70"
errr I am a middle aged white male ,small buisiness owner in Texas. I intend to support Mr. Obama for president because we can''t stand 4 more years of failed republican policies , much less 8. Republicans have doubled our national debt in 8 years , oil was $20 a barrel when GW took office, billions of fraud with Halliburton ,outing a CIA agent , Abramoff, Katrina,wide stance, Walter Reed,. and you want to talk patterns? talk facts. where is Osama ? still running loose.
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