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May 29, 2008 9:24 PM

As Obama Distances Himself From A Different Pastor, Another Creates Controversy At GOP Event

(CBS)
From CBS News' Ryan Corsaro:

NEW YORK -- Vice President Dick Cheney attended a fund-raising dinner tonight for New York Republicans, which at one point was led by a pastor’s prayer that went after Barack Obama and his former controversial pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Monsignor James Lisante, a local religious leader from Long Island, prayed to God as he attacked Obama.

“Please Lord, tell Senator Obama that maybe change is a good thing,” prayed Lisante. “And maybe he should think about changing his favorite preacher.”

As the Republican crowd reacted in with a collective “Ooooh!” followed by cheers, Lisante continued his incantation.

“I know a lot more of us would be comfortable with his judgment skills if he hadn’t sat for twenty years through those words, often by his preacher of division, bigotry and honestly half truths, without a word of objection from Senator Obama. That is until the media brought it up, now he doesn’t want have any part of the guy. I’m willing to be his new preacher.”

The crowd, which included former New York City mayor and GOP presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., responded with cheers.

Monsignor Lisante is a pastor from Saint Thomas the Apostle Parish in West Hempstead, New York.

Obama distanced himself earlier this year from Rev. Wright, a pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, after controversial clips of his sermons were posted online and broadcast by news networks. Obama also found himself distancing himself from another pastor friend tonight, Rev. Michael Pfleger.

Earlier, Cheney, who was not in attendance during the prayer, told fellow Republicans that the solution to America’s rising fuel prices was not to move away from oil dependency, but to generate more oil refineries in the United States.

“We also need to produce more oil and gas inside the United States,” said the vice president, who only mentioned alternative fuels as an aside.

“We haven’t built a new refinery in the United States in fifty years,” said Cheney, blaming Democrats for standing in the way and saying the answer to rising gas costs would be to process “in American refineries, by American workers.”

He told the crowd they need to put their shoulder to the wheel in order to beat Democrats, including the race for president, in November.

Cheney went on to quote former Democrat Zell Miller, who spoke at the 2004 Republican Convention, saying Miller along with Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and former New York City Mayor Ed Koch were Democrats who came to the realization that Democrats had become too “left-wing.”

In regards to the Bush tax cuts, Cheney urged fellow Republicans to work to elect leaders from their party in order to continue President Bush’s tax cuts, saying they needed to vote into office a “Republican Congress to make the cuts permanent and a Republican president to sign them into law.”

Otherwise, Democratic leaders would allow the cuts to expire he explained, adding “they wouldn’t have to move a muscle to do it.”

Later, Giuliani joked, “This is the most Republicans in Manhattan in a long time. We’re really outnumbered here.”

Giuliani said he believed John McCain would beat Obama, assuming he wins the nomination over Hillary Clinton.

“If they would like to fight it out longer, please be my guest,” said Giuliani. “What do we care, right?”

Over 700 people attended the fund-raiser at the Sheraton Hotel and Towers in New York City, which was held by the New York Republican State Committee.

One of the fund-raiser's organizers said the event planned not only to raise money for Republican candidates, but to demonstrate how “great and excited the Republican Party is in the state of New York.”
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by snbd1213 May 30, 2008 12:03 AM PDT
Well, Obama has said he has cut loose from his pastor Wright, but I do not believe he has let go all those sermons he heard for over 20 years. There are millions of people who are falling for all that "star quality" of Obama. Really he would make a good rock star, IF HE COULD SING", but as a President of the USA, he will ruin our country. Wait and see!!
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by kenbomc May 30, 2008 1:16 AM PDT
Well, Obama has said he has cut loose from his pastor Wright, but I do not believe he has let go all those sermons he heard for over 20 years. There are millions of people who are falling for all that "star quality" of Obama. Really he would make a good rock star, IF HE COULD SING", but as a President of the USA, he will ruin our country. Wait and see!!

Posted by snbd1213 at 12:03 AM : May 30, 2008--------------------------------------------------
You must be a believer in the Bush ''McClellan'' theory. Make it up as you go and repeat yourself often.
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by alobama May 30, 2008 2:26 AM PDT
***!!! Sure are a lot of preachers getting into the political game. Are they running for President?
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by seah5 May 30, 2008 7:19 AM PDT
The closest People in Obama''s Life. The people he worked with, who are his spiritual advisor''s and best Friends in life.

Incite Racism, hate white people. Condemn the government.

This has been part of obama''s life for over 20 years, by choice. This has been planted in his heart, mind and soul.

He has taken a vow, oath to this church and religion, that supercede all other commitments. This non-negotiable.

Obama did unite, He united the black community in solidarity. To unite to vote to get him into office, for him to fulfill the Black liberation theology.

His mentor has taught him, led him from the south side of Chicago to where he is today. Worked hard to get him here. He owes them all.
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by renonv5 May 30, 2008 7:56 AM PDT
And to think the republicans are just getting started......

Obama has "cut-loose" from his pastor only for the sake of the media. I have a firm belief that he still talks to him daily. You don''t throw a 20 year relationship out the window.

He will fail miserably if he gets this nomination.
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by sanfelz May 30, 2008 8:52 AM PDT
What church has McCain attended at any time over the last 20 years?
People who claimed to speak to God used to be given medication and sent for psychiatric care. Now they tell jokes, preach and endorse political candidates. And all while the taxpayer subsidizes their activities.
I am curious whether McCain, supposedly an Episcopalian, would support female clergy, or is he committed to the continued domination of religion by old white guys.
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by seah5 May 30, 2008 9:16 AM PDT
Obama has not distanced himself from anyone.

They all are still in the background, like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. All waiting anxiously to be back in the public, standing next to Obama.

Rev Wright is Obama''s best friend, the reason Obama is here. He owes all to him.

Along with Obama''s other close personal friends.
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by neoconslayer May 30, 2008 9:45 AM PDT
seah5: You are a lying piece of al-Qaeda trash. Tell us about all of the years you''ve been friends with Mr. Obama and how you hung out with him at all those social and private events, where YOU got to know the real Obama.
Now, run along home and get your wife''s face out of that Arab''s crotch.
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by mattcat25 May 30, 2008 9:51 AM PDT
Republicans should try to actually govern in a constructive manner instead of creating false issues, attacking personal attributes, and swift boat the opposition. The facts and results of the last two terms of Republican Presidency and the Rubber Stamp Congress have put America into the position we%u2019re in now, nothing is going to change the facts. Americans need to hold the Republicans accountable.

Vote for a Republican is a vote against most average American better interests.
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by ouronlyhope May 30, 2008 9:56 AM PDT
In McCain%u2019s own words%u2026
LOOK FOR YOURSELF and decide if McCain is the Strait-Talker he claims to be:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6TP1FjUp7bw&feature=related
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by bleem3 May 30, 2008 9:59 AM PDT
"Obama Distances Himself from Own Soul."

Wireservices report that presidential candidate Barack Obama has issued a statement claiming he is "disappointed" in his core self and wishes his supporters, and all citizens, to realize that although he has existed for 46 years, he had no idea that his soul was shallow, racist, and conniving.

"I have hope that the American people will see that I will do anything, abandon anyone and anything, in order to become president," says the junior senator from Illinois.

"While I repeatedly identify only with blacks, and attend a black, radical church and married an even more radical black wife (but as light I as I could manage), I actually had no idea I was acting upon a racist, black-centric agenda."

Analysts say Obama could win if every black vote were counted three times, or if whites were prevented from voting in favor of blacks.

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by bfjones666 May 30, 2008 10:21 AM PDT
If the Republicans think that this November is going to come down to a battle of pastors and ministers then they are sadly mistaken. I don''t give a rat''s *** about who''s minister or reverend or priest or rabbi said what, when or where. This country is in the crapper on the domestic front and our international standing has never been worse. I''m sick of the bad news on the economy and John McCain promising we can fight in Iraq and probably Iran for the next 50 years. American lives aren''t to be sacrificed for a presidents legacy. Come November, I''m going to vote for he person that will get this country back to where it belongs and not the embarrassment that the Bush administration has left us.
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by bfjones666 May 30, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
If the Republicans think that this November is going to come down to a battle of pastors and ministers then they are sadly mistaken. I don''t give a rat''s *** about who''s minister or reverend or priest or rabbi said what, when or where. This country is in the crapper on the domestic front and our international standing has never been worse. I''m sick of the bad news on the economy and John McCain promising we can fight in Iraq and probably Iran for the next 50 years. American lives aren''t to be sacrificed for a presidents legacy. Come November, I''m going to vote for he person that will get this country back to where it belongs and not the embarrassment that the Bush administration has left us.
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by superdem May 30, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
It''s so amusing to see the right wingers calling Obama a liar - when all their own leaders are the worst, proven liars we''ve ever seen. John McCain has gone back on everything he''s ever said, every word out of Bush''s mouth is a lie, and Cheney - no use even listening to that guy. And they all claim to be Christian ! Just listen to the hate and the racism of these fine Christians ! What do they think Jesus was talking about ? If you judge people, if you hate them for their skin color, if you bear false witness, you are NOT a Christian. You are a racist bigot.
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by ioweign May 30, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
you will see what Iowa thinks of your homey barack come november. whitey clinging to their guns and religion, your racist "uncle", so many negetives you''''ll see how easy McCain takes Iowa.

Posted by bswalker12 at 10:03 AM : May 30, 2008

Me thinks you have big mouth, small brain
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by greenfun May 30, 2008 10:33 AM PDT
Not only does Obama have some marginal friends, he is a slacker.
According to facthub, Clinton has 22 originally sponsored bills that have passed into law in the Senate-Obama has 2. Yes-2. According to facthub he lists every bill he cosponsored, introduced and had anything to do with on his website......which is very misleading and designed to beef up a woefully thin resume.
Only 2 passed into law.
Hmmm, I guess one of the candidates has a good work ethic and has taken the time to learn how to be effective in Washington. That would be the same one who really is good at reaching across party lines. God help us-all the knuckleheads that have bought into the corporate media generated Obama.
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by ioweign May 30, 2008 10:35 AM PDT
but as a President of the USA, he will ruin our country. Wait and see!!

Posted by snbd1213 at 12:03 AM : May 30, 2008

It can''t get any worse...
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by veteran72 May 30, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
I%u2019m willing to be his new preacher.%u201D


No, Swastikkka Breath,....if Obama needs a new preacher, it won''t be one fondling 8 yr. old boys after the GOPerv Rally......LMMFAO....
GOPers are the Scum of the Planet, and now everyone knows it......
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by ioweign May 30, 2008 10:38 AM PDT
he maytag man is a better closer than your "homey"

Posted by bswalker12 at 10:34 AM : May 30, 2008

The maytag plant closed - McSame ecomony...
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by concorde5 May 30, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
I''m still waiting to find out what Rev. Wright said that was racist.

Can anyone tell me what was racist about Rev Wright?

He said Hillary will never know what it means to be a Black man in America - That''s not racist, it''s a fact.

He said Obama is having a tough time because he is not white, rich, or priveledged - That''s not racist, it''s a fact.

When did he EVER say whites are bad people? Now granted the Gov created aids thing is a bit paranoid but it is not racist.

Can anyone tell me what was racist about rev wright? Especially considering he has white members of his church.
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by lvdragonlady-2009 May 30, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
cheney is as stupid as the shrub he pulls the strings on,when he told fellow Republicans that the solution to America%u2019s rising fuel prices was not to move away from oil dependency, but to generate more oil refineries in the United States.
He just want his gravy train to keep coming........
May he and the shrub both rot in h3ll.

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by mattcat25 May 30, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
20 years of listening to his "uncle" and he didn''''t know he was and is a racist.
Posted by bswalker12 at 10:42 AM : May 30, 2008

I was under the impression that the majority of Republican principles, beliefs, and values were based solely on racism? Why else would they consistantly vote against their better interests?

Now, with racism aside what are we going to do about the many issues facing our country?
Including, how are we going to alleviate transportation costs?

Republicans offer no solutions, they have been the problem.



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by realpatriot1 May 30, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
concorde5,

You have to understand the source. These are the same people who call Oprah racist for supporting a black candidate but would never call Jack Nicholson or Kelsey Grammer or Lorne Michaels racist for supporting a white candidate. In their minds what makes something racist is if ti''s coming from a black source.
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by concorde5 May 30, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
realpatriot......Excellent point!
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by briannorwood May 30, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
Would all these damned pastors, preachers and priests just shut up!

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN OUR CONSTITUTION!

LIVE BY IT!
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by omaar-101 May 30, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
Seperation of Church & State: I`ll be glad, when No candidate Attends a Church, is Endorsed by Any Church, Mosque, Temple Or Synagouge.

I''ll be Glad when All Candidates say, in Debates `I`m implementing the Seperation of Church & State Rule` ...

My Religion is the Constitution.

My Religion, is to the (Republic) For which It Stands.

My Religions are the Senate, Congress, The State, This Nation and Its People.

You Hypocrites can Have Your Religion, I have Enough on My Plate, as You can See.

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by usbrit-2009 May 30, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
Posted by Omaar-101

I agree 100%. To me, just needing a "spiritual guide" is a form of weakness.
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by rwassel May 30, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
Gee - what a surprise. The GOP using religion to politically attack someone else, and for their own greedy ends. How Christian of them.

There isn''t really a better use for prayer, like asking for world peace, or ending hunger. No, let''s use it for our own political ends. After all, God is a Republican, right?
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by mattcat25 May 30, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
Republicans own religion, because they bought it!
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by tawpdawg11 May 30, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
........."Otherwise, Democratic leaders would allow the cuts to expire he explained, adding %u201Cthey wouldn%u2019t have to move a muscle to do it."


Not only should the cuts be allowed to expire, they should be rescinded as soon as humanly possible.

The cuts only benefit 1% of Americans to the DETRIMENT ALL THE REST OF US! That would be 99%!

I believe you would call this a "no-brainer."

Can we keep on spending money we do not have like drunken sailors?

Making the cuts permanent uis impossible to defend.

They should never have happened.

They are responsible for wrecking our economy.

They are responsible for ruining our standard of living.

We may or may not be able to return to the way things were in the last century.
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by skyhawk761 May 30, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
So now according to Cheney we haven''t built a new refinery in 50 years. Just last week it was since the mid 70''s. So which one is it Uncle Dicky? How can you tell when the current administration is not telling the truth? It''s when you see their mouth moving.
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by omaar-101 May 30, 2008 11:37 AM PDT
Posted by USBrit: I agree 100%. To me, just needing a "spiritual guide" is a form of weakness.

Thank You..

It had to be said, these Obama Hate Mongers are Hypocrites.

If Mccain has Hagee & Parsley to Denounce, they give McCain the Pass, Every Excuse, but when its Obama...They just Pile On.

Seperation of Chuch & State...For All Candidates.

They should not Attend Church...Anywhere.

Because the Pastor-Preacher can say Anything Controversial, at Any Time and this can Only Hurt the Politician, who may or may not have been in the Church, when the Pastor- Preacher says what he says.

All Politicians should use this Election as a sign...Seperate, Church & Stae...Permamently.
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by habu99-2009 May 30, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
Typical Repugnican hot air from clueless *** Cheney, talking about making the tax cuts for the upper-crust GOP donors permanent. As our debt spirals out of control in this country due to Skippy''s useless war in Iraq, only somebody who lives in a bunker could prattle on about a Republican congress and a Republican president, as about 70% of voters in this country see the current GOP stewardship of the executive branch to be sub-par at best, and the elections of 2006 can speak for themselves. But no, Cheney growls on, accompanied by Rudy Guiliani, whose own candidacy got so far.

And despite the oil industry saying they haven''t built new refineries due to a lack of need, Cheney still finds time to distort the truth...again. With this guy, you can tell when he''s lying because his lips are moving.

One wonders even if new refineries were to be built, how many "American workers" would be employed there, versus cheaper Latin American workers that Big Oil brought in to keep the large sums of money where GOP partisans want it most-in the hands of the rich and few while the rest of us can tough it out and fight for the crumbs.
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by bluestardad May 30, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
THIS IS A DISTRACTION TOPIC!

REPIGS ARE DONE!

CANT GET THEM OFF MALE PROSTITUTES OR TO QUIT CHASING MALE PAIGES AROUND THE HALLS OF CONGRESS, OR OUTTA THE AIRPORT MENS ROOM STALLS!

STICK A FORK IN THEM!
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by DaveGress May 30, 2008 11:51 AM PDT
Last time I looked there wasn''t a religious person on Earth worth the gun powder it would take to blow them to he77. I agree with a previous poster, candidates stay the F out of churches. There''s just no productivity there.
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by dante805 May 30, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
Obama the GREAT liar: During the Memorial Day speech in New Mexico, Obama suggested his grandfather, the late Stanley Dunham, engaged in combat. But the Democratic senator''s autobiography says his grandfather never saw "real combat." "My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton''s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain." Gramps returned from the war never having seen real combat, and the family moved to California, where he enrolled at Berkeley under the GI bill," he writes.

Army records apparently contradict Obama''s claim his grandfather signed up the day after the Pearl Harbor attack. Obama''s 2002 claim his grandfather enlisted in the Army the day after the bombing of Pearl Harbor is contradicted by Army records showing Dunham signed up June 18, 1942 %u2013 six months after Pearl Harbor. And on the Senile front: First it was the "I visited 57 States" , now he''s seeing dead people. Obama saw "fallen heroes" in the audience. The statement apparently was scrubbed from an official transcript on Obama''s campaign website. LOL. What Sheeple.
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by panhandlpete May 30, 2008 11:54 AM PDT
Giuliani said he believed John McCain would beat Obama, assuming he wins the nomination over Hillary Clinton.

The addage of "Takes one to know one" means that McSame will lose.....coming from the loser Giuliani"s mouth.

Free speech to all the religious nuts, but equally my freedom to ignore your rantings.
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by j-whitman May 30, 2008 12:17 PM PDT
An American service member has been removed from duty in Iraq following complaints that Marines were handing out coins promoting Christianity, the U.S. military says.

KEEP RELIGION OUR OF POLITICS & OUR MILITARY
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by j-whitman May 30, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
KEEP RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS & THE MILITARY
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by stevex47 May 30, 2008 12:24 PM PDT
Cheney is the captain of the sinking ship swift boat. If he wants McSame to win, he ought to keep his lying mouth shut.
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by omaar-101 May 30, 2008 12:26 PM PDT
I had to, just One More Time...

Seperation of Church & State: I`ll be glad, when No candidate Attends a Church, is Endorsed by Any Church, Mosque, Temple Or Synagouge.

I`ll be Glad when All Candidates say, in Debates `I`m implementing the Seperation of Church & State Rule` ...

My Religion is the Constitution.

My Religion, is to the (Republic) For which It Stands.

My Religions are the Senate, Congress, The State, This Nation and Its People.

You Hypocrites can Have Your Religion, I have Enough on My Plate, as You can See.
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by pvperson May 30, 2008 12:26 PM PDT
Cheney talking about what America needs makes my skin crawl. Republicans like him are only concerned with power and how they can use that power to pad thier pockets. Thief, liar, creep, Cheney, you suck.
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by ixoye_02 May 30, 2008 12:29 PM PDT
Pastors certainly have freedom of speech. But I can only wonder to what purpose it serves to make political statements during a moment of prayer. I suppose the Rev. Wright situation has opened up the fact that controversial political things can be said by just about any pastor to their congregation. So, there really should not be any controversy because I can attest to the fact that my pastor could and has made political comments that could be interpreted as controversial outside the congregation. However, it saddens me when pastors inject themselves into the political dialogue and publicly tear down other politicians or other pastors. These derogatory comments only serve to highlight these pastors'' lack of judgement and own self-righteous attitudes.
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by jack3213 May 30, 2008 12:34 PM PDT
The approach might have been lame, but the words are true- Who doesn''t agree that Clinton feels she is entitled to this role- If she were not married to Bill she would have no chance at all. She is still not qualified. HA
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by billmar42 May 30, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
Religion is the bane of human existence. A pox on all your houses.
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by j-whitman May 30, 2008 12:48 PM PDT
ddhinnyc,,, Your GOP has done enough to disarm America -- We no longer have the ability to defend this nation against a major attack.

McBush still insists on selling out our National Assets to foreign countries
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by iddem May 30, 2008 12:58 PM PDT
Maybe this Preacher is looking for a TV show, joining Hege, Parsley and all the other con artists looking for "Love Donations" from their Republican followers.

Cheney brings up the lack of refinery construction in the U.S., but like others he doesn''t mention that the Big Oil Companies haven''t proposed any new refineries in years and when they did they refused to build them to existing EPA standards and that they usually chose environmentally sensitive locations instead of safer and more appropriate ones mainly in order to have the excuse of not building them because of the tree huggers.

Draft Dodger *** also claims that gas prices are higher because of a shortage in Oil, if Oil is in such short supply then what would new refineries refine and why are so many of the refineries presently in operation either shutdown or operating at 75% or less capacity, and, again, why are 80% of the Oil and Gas wells already drilled in the U.S. "capped" and not pumping oil?

Maybe "god" is punishing America by causing outrageous gas prices like he does with hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, and droughts, but I think it''s more likely that the same people who met with Draft Dodger *** back in early 01'' are operating according to the plans they made then and are manipulating prices......Just like ENRON and the Energy crisis, after all many of the same Enron people are involved in Oil Futures today.
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by jerr11 May 30, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
Bush of course is the Son of Satan.

He went into Iraq after talking to his Father in hell.

And killed thousands there.

Including 4085 Americans.

What part of "Thous shalt not kill did he not understand?"

Bush - Son of Satan.

Damned for all time.



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by j-whitman May 30, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
bswalker12,,, Tell that to our Troops, a lot of them are Liberal

Don''t you think it would be a good time to stop hating our troops & country ????
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by jerr11 May 30, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
you bleeding heart liberals are made for one thing. target practice!

Posted by bswalker12 at 01:11 PM : May 30, 2008



Sure fire away!

You''ve already killed 4085 Americans with your unnecessary war in Iraq.

What''s a few more to natural born killers like you neocons!

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