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May 21, 2008 5:46 PM

Clinton Desperate to Count Votes, Compares Fla. Primary to Zimbabwe

(CBS)
From CBS News' Fernando Suarez:

SUNRISE, FLA. -- Desperate to get attention for her cause to seat Florida and Michigan delegates, Hillary Clinton compared the plight of Zimbabweans in their recent fraudulent election to the uncounted votes of Michigan and Florida voters saying it is wrong when “people go through the motions of an election only to have them discarded and disregarded.”

“We’re seeing that right now in Zimbabwe," Clinton explained. "Tragically, an election was held, the president lost, they refused to abide by the will of the people,” Clinton told the crowd of senior citizens at a retirement community in south Florida.

“So we can never take for granted our precious right to vote. It is the single most important, privilege and right any of us have, because in that ballot box we are all equal. You’re equal to a billionaire. You’re equal to the president, every single one of us.”

In just one day, Clinton has used a variety of arguments to convince her party to seat Florida and Michigan delegates, going as far as comparing the struggles of the voters in Florida and Michigan to those of abolitionists, suffragists, to the plight of Zimbabweans. Clinton even warned that if a resolution is not reached, Democrats in these two states would feel abandoned and likely jump ship to Republican John McCain.

“I think people across Florida and Michigan are thinking to themselves, ‘Well if the Democrats don’t want my vote, maybe John McCain and the Republicans do?’ We can’t let that happen,” she told the small crowd .

Clinton pointed out that unlike the Republicans, the Democrats have not been able to solve the Florida issue in a timely fashion saying, “We have allowed ours to go on.”
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by jld1959 May 23, 2008 9:14 AM EDT
Top Hillary Supporter Says She''s Showing "Desperation"

Here''s some audio of a stunning rebuke that a top Hillary supporter gave her in response to her comparisons of the Michigan/Florida controversy to the country''s historical civil rights struggles.

The supporter, New York Governor David Paterson, said flatly on a local radio show that Hillary was starting to show "a little desperation."

Listen below:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/top_hillary_supporter_says_she.php

For a blind man he can see very clearly!
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by bajaan May 23, 2008 3:55 AM EDT
Hello all:

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by kansas1946 May 22, 2008 11:26 PM EDT
Lord, Hillary. Zimbabwe?? Florida knew the rules, they just ignored them. I do feel bad that the Florida Democratic party was so arrogant and caused the voters in their state to cast votes that didn''t count. I think there is some compromise being worked on, but Zimbabwe?????
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by kailumego1 May 22, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
Zimbabwe, what an insult, considering the post-election violence in this country, as many African countries.

She''s way out of line.
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by jean243 May 22, 2008 10:08 PM EDT
www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/22/0226/35614/632/520082

On Aug. 25, 2007, the DNC rules panel voted to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates because their primary dates were "out-of-order." This was to discourge other states from moving up their primaries. discourage other states from following suit. Of the committee''s 30 members, a near-majority of 12 were Clinton supporters. All of them%u2014most notably strategist Harold Ickes%u2014voted for Florida''s full disenfranchisement. (The only dissenting vote was cast by a Tallahassee, Fla., city commissioner who supported Obama.)

9/1/2007
Clinton Campaign Statement on the Four State Pledge:

The following is a statement by Clinton Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle.

"We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.

And we believe the DNC%u2019s rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role.

THUS, WE WILL BE SIGNING THE PLEDGE TO ADHERE TO THE DNC APPROVED NOMINATING CALENDAR."

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by jean243 May 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
Talk about doing a 180-flip flop. Talk about out-and-out lies. Talk about desperation. Has she gone over the edge into fantasy? Does she need medication?? She''s become a joke.
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by rufisgufis May 22, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
EVERY VOTE MUST be COUNTED, that''''s the DEM party''s promise after Election 2000.

Posted by metroduck75 at 03:54 PM : May 22, 2008
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So why is Hillary declaring that those who vote in the caucuses do not count?

And why did Hillary pledge that the Michigan delegates "won''t count for anything?

And why is Hillary so uglys?
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by metroduck75 May 22, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
EVERY VOTE MUST be COUNTED, that''s the DEM party''s promise after Election 2000.

But now, DEM party is being UNdemocratic about it.

They are asking Voters in FL and MI to go to H-E-L-L..... then cry after Election 2008.
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by aldon61 May 22, 2008 6:27 PM EDT
JOHN-Lai: You need to get a grip on son; go take your meds and calm down. The fight is over and your side lost. Try again in 4 years, but in the meantime try to stay cool.
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by aldon61 May 22, 2008 6:24 PM EDT
jack3213: Your posts today have been decidingly different from the past. I actually agree with them!
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by rufisgufis May 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT
The Boston Globe writes of %u201CClinton%u2019s seven stages of grief.%u201D 1. Shock -- third place in Iowa; 2. Denial. "Publicly at least, Clinton is still in this stage, insisting to supporters that the race isn''t over despite the all but insurmountable delegate math;" 3. Bargaining. Clinton and her top aides have been cajoling superdelegates for weeks, trying to convince them that she would be the stronger nominee against Republican John McCain; 4. Guilt. Not for Clinton, herself, necessarily...Some loyalists say her staff has not run the campaign she deserved; 5. Anger. "It has surfaced most clearly in complaints about media coverage -- what she sees as the coddling of Obama, and what she described this week as sexist, at times even misogynist, treatment;" 6. Depression. "[N]o outward sign so far of this phase, other than fatigue on the campaign trail; 7. Acceptance. "This probably won''t come until after the last contests on June 3, when Obama could very well mathematically clinch the nomination."
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by rufisgufis May 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
The superdelegates must have a tontine

Posted by shippg at 01:05 PM : May 22, 2008
__________________

You''re spamming this garbage like it''s the last word. What in the devil is a "tontine?"

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by rufisgufis May 22, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
It was a slam-dunk that Hillary would win in West Virginia and Kentucky. They are her demographic: The old, stupid, ignorant, uneducated, tobacco-chewing, moonshine-drinking, snuff-sniffing, meth-making, cow-sh*t kicking, inbred, redneck, racist, hillbilly hick. Most of them are related through inbreeding anyway. Obama probably won the college-educated young males, both of them, who probably left the state by now to avoid being lynched by the good folks.
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by rufisgufis May 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
HILLARY COMPLAINS OF SEXISM

WHERE DID THE SEXISM ORIGINATE? IN THE HILLARY CAMP!

One of her main supporters, James Carville , inferred she has "cojones.%u201D She did not complain then. She compared herself to Rocky Balboa, she found nothing wrong with that;. She called herself Paulette Revere; nothing wrong with that. When one of her own supporters referred to her %u201Ctesticular fortitude, she didn%u2018t complain then.%u201D At a speech she gave a Wellesley College she boasted of %u201Cbeing used to taking on the boys.%u201C

SEEMS SHE PROTESTS TOO MUCH.
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by shippg-2009 May 22, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
The superdelegates must have a tontine going with a bunch of cash. Each one who "declares" for a candidate loses out, while the last remaining superdelegate gets the whole wad. Why else are they letting the idiocy go this long? There are no ethics anywhere you look.
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by shippg-2009 May 22, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
The superdelegates must have a tontine going with a bunch of cash. Each one who "declares" for a candidate loses out, while the last remaining superdelegate gets the whole wad. Why else are they letting the idiocy go this long? There are no ethics anywhere you look.
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by shippg-2009 May 22, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
The superdelegates must have a tontine going with a bunch of cash. Each one who "declares" for a candidate loses out, while the last remaining superdelegate gets the whole wad. Why else are they letting the idiocy go this long? There are no ethics anywhere you look.
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by shippg-2009 May 22, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
The superdelegates must have a tontine going with a bunch of cash. Each one who "declares" for a candidate loses out, while the last remaining superdelegate gets the whole wad. Why else are they letting the idiocy go this long? There are no ethics anywhere you look.
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by omaar-101 May 22, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
Clinton claims Media Bias, When the Media Dubbed her A!!, as being the ''Next President''...

He!! Even Fox News & Newt Gingrich, said she was, the ''Next President''...

Until a little Known Senator from Illinois,with an Odd Name, entered the Race and Upset/Changed her Master Plan !

Of Course, their Against Clinton.

(Not)

Sexism-Genderism, Of Course their Against Clinton.

(Not)


Husseinism, That Scare Tactic did`nt and Has`nt Worked, yet.

Over Kill

The Rev. Wrightism, Did`nt an Has`nt Worked , Overkill, by the Time the General Election Rolls around, it will be Rev. ''So What'', Rev. ''Who Cares'',

''I want My Love Ones out of Iraq & Afghanistan''

Now it`s Comparing her Situation to Ugh (Zimbabwe)..

Clinton & Obama agreed that the Votes in Michigan & Florida, would not count and so did other (D) Nominees.

Clinton Victimization, when She`s Clearly Shooting behind the (8-Ball)

Theres No Low, Low Enough, for that B!tch !!
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