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March 25, 2008 4:45 PM

Clinton Chats With The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy?

The news out of Pennsylvania today was that Hillary Clinton weighed in on the Reverend Jeremiah Wright controversy when she told a newspaper editorial board, "he would not have been my pastor … You don't choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend."

But somewhat lost in the hubbub over this latest jab at Obama was the very fact that Clinton was meeting with the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review editorial board at all.

Published by billionaire conservative activist Richard Mellon Scaife, the Tribune-Review is known for its opinion page, which tilts heavily to the right. During the 1990s, the paper published a series of stories examining the case of Vince Foster, the former White House Deputy Counsel whose 1993 death was ruled a suicide after several investigations.

The Tribune-Review was at the forefront of conspiracy theorists who speculated that Hillary and President Clinton may have been involved in murdering Foster and covering up his death. As late as 2002, the Tribune-Review published a column suggesting Hillary Clinton's presidential aspirations would be tampered due to the Foster "cover-up."

Asked at a news conference this afternoon what it felt like to sit in the heart of the "vast right-wing conspiracy," Clinton laughed.

"It was actually very pleasant … " she said. "I said in the beginning when I arrived that it was obviously somewhat counterintuitive for me to be there, but it was a good discussion."
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by gemstone1955 March 25, 2008 5:38 PM PDT
There are 116 United Church of Christ churches in the Chicago area. There are over a dozen within 10 miles of Barack & Michelle Obama%u2019s home. Why that church? As a private citizens if your family is fine with a pastor and church who holds as even a small part of there views anti American, Anti Semitic, Pro Hamas Terrorist organization, Anti white as part of the ministry it is your right to stay as members and be feed spiritually there and if that is what feeds your soul, fine we as fellow Americans support your rights to that. As to America being OK with our President being a member of such a church, we say no way! No one has ask you to change faiths but a change in church fellowship and spiritual advisers of which you have 116 other churches and pastors to choose from is totally within a reasonable request for someone running to be the next President of the United States! Thank you Barack Obama for your radio address where you let us know you and Michelle have chosen to continue being spiritually feed from that specific church and pastor with ALL there messages. We will support your right to that as a private citizen but we will not elect you as our President. Change & Unity are more then words they require action and hard work! The kind of solutions to serious problems we face is what Hillary Clinton offers us and is the real change and unity we are looking for. You may speak the words about these things but your actions do not.
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by grahampoor March 25, 2008 5:38 PM PDT
If Clinton is the nominee they will be blaming her from not getting Bin Ladin. They like her now because she is behind and if they create a tie then Rush''s "operation chaos" will hurt the Democrats. Do we want to relive the scandals of the 90''s spun by the other party as the cause of 9/11?
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by grahampoor March 25, 2008 5:41 PM PDT
Listen to what Obama says when he preaches:
Barack Obama Speaks at Dr. King''s Church
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris
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by deq54 March 25, 2008 5:42 PM PDT
She and her "tag-team wrestling partner" Bill have been campaigning like repubs for a while now. Her NAFTA, and Bosnia esposes, along with her refusal to release her tax forms and her being the largest recipient of lobbyist money all point to one conclustion--They say they are still dems, but they are acting more and more each day like repubs. They are taking a page from Lieberman''s play book--This is certainly going to make the Dem convention easier--it''s beginning to look like there will be only one democrat left.
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by jpeezus March 25, 2008 5:44 PM PDT
AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LACK OF TEACHING OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY. IF EVERY STUDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROPERLY EDUCATED YOU WOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF SLAVERY WE HAD OUR RELATIVES RIPPED FROM US ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AND SOLD, SO WITH THAT
MOST AFRICAN AMERICANS MAY NOT EVEN TRULY BE RELATED. THIS IS HOW WE ADAPTED TO EXPAND OUR FAMILY WITH SOMETIMES NON FAMILY BLOOD. WE HAD NO FAMILY AND OUR SENSE OF FAMILY VALUE MEANT NOTHING TO THE SLAVES OWNERS. SO YES A PASTOR CAN BE A RELATIVE IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHETHER YOU CONDONE HIS WORDS OR NOT.
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by danigirl65 March 25, 2008 5:50 PM PDT
Hmmm, you judge a man by the church he attends and one of the preachers, yet you let a lie pass. I''ve had enough lies under Bush.

Obama ''08
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by mofofongo March 25, 2008 5:55 PM PDT
"There%u2019s a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama%u2019s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she%u2019s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that ''through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the %u201CFellowship,%u201D aka The Family.''
But it won%u2019t be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet%u2019s shocking exposi, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

[..]

The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the %u201Cmeek.%u201D They believe that, in mass societies, it%u2019s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God%u2019s %u201Cdominion%u201D on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it%u2019s all about power %u2014 cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or %u201Ccells.%u201D %u201CWe work with power where we can,%u201D Doug Coe has said, and %u201Cbuild new power where we can%u2019t.%u201D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Christian_political_organization)
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by speakthetrut March 25, 2008 5:56 PM PDT
It doesn''t matter which church you go to, or who your pastor is!

Hillary, you lied to the public about your Bosnia trip. You said you landed under sniper fire, and that you had to run to the car to get to safety. You are a congenital liar. We don''t want you. Go away Hillary "liar" Clinton. You are a selfish power hungry lying monster who do not care about this country or its people. You are refusing to release your tax return because you don''t want anyone to see you illegal dealings. That is why you said you will release your tax return if you get nominated. You only care about having power and money. Hillary is a LIAR. Believe this: In the end, TRUTH will alway win.
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by fnlorrain March 25, 2008 5:56 PM PDT
All this talk about his pastor is on the basis of clips that don''t convey the point of the sermon. Before you go ahead and condemn people for being anti-american, you should do your homework. I watched the entire sermon and came away with a mcompletely different impression. This attempt to demonize the man''s church is ridiculously un-christian. Go see what Gov. Huckabee had to say about this flap. You people are ridiculous, I see posts from Obama haters asking why he wasn''t in church on Easter sunday, what buisness of yours is it where he was sunday morning, we have a little thing called the separation of church and state, the constitution forbids a religeous test on candidates to high office, where have all the Americans gone?
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by fliberals1 March 25, 2008 5:57 PM PDT
Gemstone, Hillary offers nothing but lies and BS anyone who allows her husband to disgrace her and stays with him is in it for power and personal gain period. She is old school politics not new she will bring nothing but the same and probably worse than that she is a terrible person and a criminal too boot. To say the Clintons are acting more like republicans is stupid they are acting like ALL politicians they are all the same lying stealing cheating people. She will say whatever it takes to get elected because the general public is too stupid to see the truth. The nice thing is if she gets the nod MCCAIN will WIN for sure.
Jpezzus-= stop with the black slavery thing already it is old news and really means nothing anymore but an excuse for the African American society to not be accountable for it''s self and point fingers at everything but the real problem which is your community. Obama''s preacher is no better than Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and Osama Bin Laden. They all repress their people for personal financial gain that is the problem.
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by czeckk March 25, 2008 6:04 PM PDT
Omg, don''t pull that race card ***. You think that slavery from 100 years ago is holding your race back? The real reason you are at the pit of society is because of *** like this, nobody owes you anything. You aren''t the first race to be enslaved. Not enough black history? We have an entire friggin month devoted to you, teaching about how "opressed" you think you are. I''m not going to go up to a German and be pissed because he enslaved my slovak ancestors, get over it. As for Obama, if you go to a church that preaches hatred towards America for 20 years, you believe it, don''t act like he doesn''t agree with what he listens to for 20 yrs. This preacher preaches hatred of America and the white person. If you ask me, black people are the main reason that racism still exists in this country, you can''t lose or be put down without pulling out the race card. It''s pitiful and I hope that one day blacks become mature and realize that it is not my fault that some white guy 150 years ago decided to enslave you!Grow up.
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by mofofongo March 25, 2008 6:06 PM PDT
"There%u2019s a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama%u2019s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she%u2019s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.

You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that ''through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the %u201CFellowship,%u201D aka The Family.''
But it won%u2019t be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet%u2019s shocking exposi, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.

[..]

The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the %u201Cmeek.%u201D They believe that, in mass societies, it%u2019s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God%u2019s %u201Cdominion%u201D on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it%u2019s all about power %u2014 cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or %u201Ccells.%u201D %u201CWe work with power where we can,%u201D Doug Coe has said, and %u201Cbuild new power where we can%u2019t.%u201D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Christian_political_organization)
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by czeckk March 25, 2008 6:06 PM PDT
Omg, don''t pull that race card ***. You think that slavery from 100 years ago is holding your race back? The real reason you are at the pit of society is because of *** like this, nobody owes you anything. You aren''t the first race to be enslaved. Not enough black history? We have an entire friggin month devoted to you, teaching about how "opressed" you think you are. I''m not going to go up to a German and be pissed because he enslaved my slovak ancestors, get over it. As for Obama, if you go to a church that preaches hatred towards America for 20 years, you believe it, don''t act like he doesn''t agree with what he listens to for 20 yrs. This preacher preaches hatred of America and the white person. If you ask me, black people are the main reason that racism still exists in this country, you can''t lose or be put down without pulling out the race card. It''s pitiful and I hope that one day blacks become mature and realize that it is not my fault that some white guy 150 years ago decided to enslave you!Grow up.
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by willow49-2009 March 25, 2008 6:15 PM PDT
Very well said, gemstone1955.

As parents, Barack and Michelle Obama have let their little girls down by allowing them to be exposed to the racial and anti-American sermons so loudly proclaimed by their pastor and so enthusiastically received by the congregation. The young children in that church will take such reactions by the adults as a celebration of the truth, when in reality, it''s them passing the burdens of victimization, hate, and distrust on to future generations. It''s sad that the members of the church don''t see it and frightening that the Obama''s have participated in it. Oh, and I''m a Democrat.
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by speakthetrut March 25, 2008 6:17 PM PDT
czeckk, Show me proof that Obama''s pastor was preaching hatred of America every day for 20 years. I''ll do the math for you: that is 365*20+5=7305 days. One sermon out or 7305 days of semon is not the same as 7305 days worth of sermon. First watch all the other video clips floating around on the web. I''m not black. But just because you had it easy doesn''t mean all people who were oppressed is going to have an easy life. When you are turned away because of your color, or because you have an accent, then you will know what African Americans feel like. If you have both of your parents to love you, feed you, and guide you, then you had it easy. Think about a single parent doing minimum wage job, trying to pay the rent, and feed her children. Really think about it.
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by willow49-2009 March 25, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
Hmmm, as for truth will always win, Obama last Friday said he''d never heard any of Rev Wright''s questionable sermons, yet in his speech on Tuesday, he admitted that "Yes" he had heard him make some questionable statements.
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by speakthetrut March 25, 2008 6:24 PM PDT
Why do the Clintons want to crucify Obama for going to church? What about the straight faced lies of Hillary? So, when Hillary lies it is a blip and a bloop. When a white woman lies it is a slip up. When a white man (Slick Willy) lies under oath it is the vast right wing conspiracy. Stop the white wash. Hold the white woman to the same scrutiny and as you are doing to a black man.
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by speakthetrut March 25, 2008 6:27 PM PDT
Obama said he wasn''t in the congregation his pastor made that inflamatory sermon. View the video or read the script before you slander.
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by nandssmith March 25, 2008 6:31 PM PDT
Senator Obama said he was not in attendance during the sermons that have been recently in the news.

He also said he has heard his minister say things against US policy.

These are two different things. Why can''t you people get that through your heads? That is not lying.

Hillary Clinton said we can''t choose our family? Oh really, she chose to stay with Bill, her lying, cheating, disbarred husband - and lied to cover up his repeated trysts. These are not the actions of Christians.

Oh what a hypocrite she is. And Christ absolutely condemns hypocrisy.
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by nandssmith March 25, 2008 6:33 PM PDT
Senator Obama said he was not in attendance during the sermons that have been aired in the news.

He also said he has heard his minister say things against US policy.

These are two different things. Why can''t you people get that through your heads? That is not lying.

I attend a very conservative Baptist church and the pastors over the years have spoken against US policy many times. So what?

Hillary Clinton said we can''t choose our family. Oh really?
She chose to stay with Bill, her lying, cheating, disbarred husband - and lied to cover up his repeated sins. These are not the actions of Christians.

Oh what a hypocrite she is. And Christ absolutely condemns hypocrisy.
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by nandssmith March 25, 2008 6:34 PM PDT
Senator Obama said he was not in attendance during the sermons that have been aired in the news.

He also said he has heard his minister say things against US policy.

These are two different things; he did not lie.

I attend a very conservative Baptist church and the pastors over the years have spoken against US policy many times. So what?

Hillary Clinton said we can''t choose our family. Oh really?
She chose to stay with Bill, her lying, cheating, disbarred husband - and lied to cover up his repeated sins. These are not the actions of Christians.

Oh what a hypocrite she is. And Christ absolutely condemns hypocrisy.
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by nandssmith March 25, 2008 6:36 PM PDT
Willow49:

Senator Obama said he was not in attendance during the sermons that have been aired in the news.

He also said he has heard his minister say things against US policy.

These are two completely different things; not a lie. Now Hillary, she blatantly lies.

I attend a very conservative Baptist church and the pastors over the years have spoken against US policy many times. So what?

Hillary Clinton said we can''t choose our family. Oh really?
She chose to stay with Bill, her lying, cheating, disbarred husband - and lied to cover up his repeated sins. These are not the actions of a Christian family.

Oh what a hypocrite she is. And Christ absolutely condemns hypocrisy.
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by nandssmith March 25, 2008 6:39 PM PDT
Willow49:

Senator Obama said he was not in attendance during the sermons that have been aired in the news.

He also said he has heard his minister say things against US policy.

These are two completely different things; not a lie. Now Hillary, she blatantly lies.

I attend a very conservative Baptist church and the pastors over the years have spoken against US policy many times. So what?

Hillary Clinton said we can''t choose our family. Oh really?
She chose to stay with Bill, her lying, cheating, disbarred husband - and lied to cover up his repeated sins. These are not the actions of a Christian family.

Oh what a hypocrite she is. And Christ absolutely condemns hypocrisy.
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by cleduc2 March 25, 2008 6:44 PM PDT
Media can also choose what you want the public to hear.

It%u2019s amazing what happens when you hear the pastor%u2019s quotes in the context they were delivered. See the posters comments below CNN%u2019s Roland Martin articles:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-wright%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cgod-***-america%e2%80%9d-sermon/?s-%20?god-***-america%20?-sermon/

I can%u2019t say I subscribe to everything the pastor has said but I can say that it makes a heck of a difference when you hear them within the sermon.

This is a largely smear campaign. If they can%u2019t nail the candidate, then they have to go after someone close to them to try to make the candidate look bad. Eventually, this story is going to come out %u2013 that Rev. Wright isn%u2019t as bad as a few out of context clips make him out to be and most rational people will calm down.
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by czeckk March 25, 2008 6:59 PM PDT
hey speakthetrut. Blacks have more friggin single mothers raising children because they have an overwhelming teen birth rate, it''s only their own fault. also, like 1 and 3 black kids i think it was are supposed to have spent some time in jail in their lifetime, maybe that''s why they are turned away, they get pregnant and can''t raise their kids and most end up in prison....that''s called stupidity. THEIR FAULT. I am not opressing them in any way. I''m not democrat because I don''t want tax money going to pay for some bums healthcare while one of my family members waits behind them. If the bum doesnt work and can''t afford healthcare then I shouldnt have to suffer, nor should anyone else. You have to ask how Obama is getting all of this ridiculous amounts of money to pay for *** like this, he is an idiot. oh, and i didnt say thats all he preached, but if my priest said one thing about my country, I wouldn''t go to that church again, especially if I want to be president. screw that
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by missglo March 25, 2008 7:01 PM PDT
Who is Hillary''s Pastor? And why is she disowning Rev. Wright now? Is this what she has experience in, speaking up when she can profit from it. Not what, I want in a President.
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by ericv2644 March 25, 2008 7:02 PM PDT
What about the Vince Foster Cover-up?
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by speakthetrut March 25, 2008 7:31 PM PDT
The truth is...
- Hillary lied about landing under sniper fire when she went to Bosnia. No "misspeak" until press broguht it out.
- Bill lied under oath during Monica case.
- Hillary Clinton is hiding hir tax return.
- Clinton and NATO were not interested in establishing peace in the balkans, resulting in Bosnian war.
- Bill and Hill invited Rev Wright to white house (if he is such a hate monger, then why invite him to white house?).
- Bill sent airforce and navy seals to Haiti and almost caused an all out civil war when Jimmy Carter was there getting a peace deal signed.
- Bill was more interested in attacking N. Korea instead of dialogue and peaceful resolution. He didn''t care to give Carter permission to travel to N Korea for talks.
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by chyke1 March 25, 2008 8:26 PM PDT
Poll: Obama way ahead in N.C.
21-point lead the largest so far
(Raleigh) News & Observer

Hillary Clinton in N.C. on Thursday
Barack Obama is way up in the latest Democratic tracking poll.

A survey by Public Policy Polling showed the presidential candidate with 55 percent to rival Hillary Clinton''s 34 percent in North Carolina.

The results came after two high-profile speeches by Obama: One on Iraq in Fayetteville, and another in response to video of his minister, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, condemning America.

"This 21 point lead is the largest he has shown in any NC polling to date, and an indication that the Wright controversy isn''t causing him any long term harm at least in this state," wrote pollster Tom Jensen on his blog.

The automated poll of 673 likely Democratic primary voters was conducted on March 24. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.8 percent. The Democratic polling firm is based in Raleigh.

In the March 17 poll, Obama led 44 to 43.


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by ewnnrj March 25, 2008 9:58 PM PDT
Hillary Republican heroine: The NeoNeoCon!
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by besscannon-2009 March 25, 2008 10:34 PM PDT
I don''t care what the rest of Wright''s sermon, the fact remains he accused us of deliberately infecting blacks with HIV Aids to eliminate them, He "God Damned America, and blamed us for 9/11.
The fact that those things were in the speech makes completely guilty of hate against our country. He says they are committed to Africa and Obama has said he wants to send 7% of our treasure to Kenya which amounts to $635 Trillion. We have spent enough overseas! Our country needs help now. Iraq has taken us broke, will Obama borrow more from China to build up Kenya? He is a dyed in the wool lying hypocrite! Only non-thinking fools are voting for him. We haven''t time to tutor this greenhorn how to run the country.
We need a president that knows from day one what to do. Don''t make a tragic mistake and put the wrong person in our oval office,
please! If Obama is the nominee, I will vote for McCain.
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by phoenixandy March 25, 2008 11:40 PM PDT
Hillary Clinton is now part of the right-wing conspiracy. She''s a DINO.
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by ji_john March 26, 2008 12:13 AM PDT
Has Hillary Clinton gone back to her roots? She WAS a Goldwater Republican you know. Maybe the editorial board invited Clinton so they can see some 4th of July fireworks when her lies ignites her combustible pants suit. Or maybe she was there to gain pointers for even harsher attacks on Obama. What strange Bedfellows!
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by susan10001-2009 March 26, 2008 6:54 AM PDT
She met w/ the right wingers because THEY are keeping HER in the game...

McCain and Clinton...

Charlie Black and Mark Penn...

What a TEAM!
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by eshaneua March 26, 2008 7:51 AM PDT
She''s chatting with the right-wing conspiracy because she thinks they can save her campaign. Little does she know--the very ones she''s chumming with is voting for Obama for the Democratic nominee and for the POTUS.
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by eshaneua March 26, 2008 7:55 AM PDT
They accused Christ of preaching hate when he spoke His unconventional words of wisdom. People feared what they didn''t understand. That''s why the bishops and sanhedrin conspired to kill him. It didn''t work then and it will not work now.
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by blkpresident March 26, 2008 9:38 AM PDT
Irishwench,

Where is it documented that the Scotch and Irish were enslaved before the Africans here in America? You can''t be serious, right? More importantly than that, Why would you waste your vote on a soccer mom when you can vote for a man?
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by taddles-2009 March 26, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
"Where is it documented that the Scotch and Irish were enslaved before the Africans here in America? You can''''t be serious, right?

Posted by BLKPRESIDENT at 09:38 AM : Mar 26, 2008"

Actually that is correct, white slaves from Scotland and Ireland were here in the states as early as the 1640''s. Scots and Irish were commonly sold into servitude from the Roman era up to the middle 1700''s. After the 1745 rebellion in Scotland many Jacobites were sold into slavery in the southern US states, sold in Nova Scotia and transported to Australia.

Obviously this was not as widespread and endemic as black slavery but it certainly did happen.
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by taddles-2009 March 26, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
"I don''''t care what the rest of Wright''''s sermon, the fact remains he accused us of deliberately infecting blacks with HIV Aids to eliminate them, He "God Damned America, and blamed us for 9/11.

Posted by besscannon at 10:34 PM : Mar 25, 2008"


Rev. Wright, like many others including Rev''s Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, blamed America for bringing on 911 because of our abusive foreign policies.

There are a lot of articles floating around that claim that a bill H.R. 15090 dedicated money in 1969 for research and development of a retro-virus by the US military and that this virus was tested on black Africans in the early 70''s which led to the present HIV epidemic. Considering the history of experiments by the US government on blacks over the past century, it is understandable that the black community is skeptical with regards to any outbreak of disease that affects them.

Do a little research, it might do you some good.
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by blackspirit3 March 26, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
The Tuskegee Syphilis For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. SO PASTOR WRIGHT IS NOT THAT FAR OFF COURSE IN SAYING, AMERICA CREATED AIDS. LETS BE REAL. IF A *** OFFENDER IS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD - DO YOU IGNOR THE POSSIBILITIES OF HIM HARMING YOUR CHILD?
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by enaudnella March 26, 2008 12:58 PM PDT
Besscannon,
Why not help Africa when we have helped Iraq, china , latin america. 2 million africans have been ravaged with murder, rape , disease , displacement . Or are you part of the problem Wright is speaking about.........seems like it pushed one of your buttons.
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by shortyduke March 26, 2008 2:50 PM PDT
www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
I tried to put this on HRC site & they never posted it - guess they don''t want her supporters to know the truth about her "Church".
ENJOY!
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by missglo March 26, 2008 6:44 PM PDT
Why did she wait so long to make a comment? Was it because, it was her ace in the hole. When she got caught in her lies. Or did it take her speech writers all this time. To come up with something. Who can really believe what she says?
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by anappleadae March 27, 2008 6:50 PM PDT
eshanua
Based on the last two polls and referring to the last poll by gallup; 50% of Hillary supporters would vote for McCain if Obama is nominated, 40% of Obam followers would vote for McCain if Hillary is nominated. Based on these polls neither candidate wins. It is four more years by the Bush zerox.

Blkpresident
Would you dispute that Moses and the Jews were slaves under the Egyptians? Slavery knows no particular race. It seems endemic to the human animal along with genecide. When the word slavery comes to mind most people think of poor black people enslaved by some arrogant white master, which is true, but not stereotypical.
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by anappleadae March 27, 2008 7:02 PM PDT
Blkpresident
I noticed in many of your comments you make sexist statements. Is sexism an issue with you? And if you are a sexist does that not skew your ability to be reasonably rational?
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by berthaw51 March 28, 2008 1:36 PM PDT
You don''t choose your family Hillary but you do choose your church. You choose your husband too. Had my husband disgraced me and my country like your ***-addicted Bill did I would have not only divorceed him but never put my self in a situation where I would be in the public eye again. Let the Wright stuff go Hill. You have a truckload of scandals in your past and present. I you folks that would support McCain you better think twice. All he is concerned about it war screw the economy. He will institute the automatic draft. That means your children and grandchildren will be fighting and dying over a senseless war. Iraq is about money and power not the war on terror. Wake up people.
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by berthaw51 March 28, 2008 1:41 PM PDT
I feel sorry for you folks that just take the media to be the gospel. Research what you hear. Wright is not the monster they are making him out to be. A lot of what he said is true if you do the research. White America has been running this country so they are responsible for how the world views us. Don''t be so quick to condemn without having the facts. I repeat, not that I am for racism but a lot of what Wright said about white America is true. Those that are offended are the ones that can help us to move on as a country toward healing.
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