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March 20, 2008 2:15 PM

Clinton on Michigan Re-Vote: What's Obama "Afraid Of?"

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From CBS News' Fernando Suarez:

TERRE HAUTE, IND. -- During her first campaign visit to Indiana, Hillary Clinton called on Barack Obama to support a re-vote in Michigan saying, “It is critical that we figure out a way for the people of Michigan and Florida to have their votes and their voices count.”

“I do not understand what Senator Obama is afraid of, but it is going to hurt our party and our chances in November. So I would call on him, once again, to join me in giving the people of Florida and Michigan the chance to be counted as we move forward in this nominating process,” added Clinton.

Clinton’s visit to the Saratoga Restaurant in the business district of Terre Haute, drew hundreds of spectators unable to enter the small restaurant and braved the cold to get a glimpse of the candidate. Her trip here comes more than a month before the state’s May 6 primary, but with the nomination in flux, every vote and every delegate is going to matter.

“It's important that we try to get as many people here to participate in this important primary election,” said Clinton. “And that’s why it is critical that we figure out a way for the people of Michigan and Florida to have their votes and their voices count.”

Clinton, who supports proposals to re-do the primary in Michigan, told reporters during a press conference outside a local eatery, that the only person holding up the re-vote is Obama.

“For the life of me, I don’t understand why Senator Obama seems to be afraid of letting there be a re-vote in Michigan, you’ll have to ask him. He comes up with all these legalistic answers, the people of Michigan and their legislature made it very clear that they would proceed with a re-vote, unfortunately, Senator Obama’s campaign said no. Two out of the three of us said yes, you’ll have to ask him what he’s afraid of?”

Clinton was also asked about her opinions on NAFTA during her husband's presidency, in light of the release thousands of documents from her days as First Lady. Clinton, who has been under fire for potentially flip-flopping on her views on NAFTA, defended her criticism of NAFTA, despite reports that she mirrored her husband’s support for it in the 1990s.

“Well, I don’t think that is what you can infer from the release of the schedules. I have spoken consistently against NAFTA and the way it has been implemented,” said Clinton. “Now as a candidate for the presidency, I have been very clear about what I would do to renegotiate NAFTA. I have been consistent, unlike Senator Obama who has not been.”
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by rickozzy-2009 March 22, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
Hillaryous definition: When someone describes a situation in a way that benefits their selfish goals, despite all of evidence to the contrary (reality).

1. The Richardson endorsement was eagerly sought by the Clinton camp. However, since Richardson endorsed Obama, Clinton strategist Mark Penn Hillaryously told reporters that he didn''t think it was a "significant endorsement."
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by rrlieberma March 22, 2008 2:56 AM EDT
victories in the states which make up an Electoral College victory as well as her demonstrated ability to pull together winning coalitions of Democrats, Republicans and Independents twice in New York State against a well-financed, aggressive attack by the Republican Attack Machine. Remember that Obama was badly beaten by Bobby Rush in 2000 and then beat, um Alan Keyes, in 2004. Any of us could have beat Alan Keyes. Let''s focus on winning the White House. It is time for the uniter and healer to prove he is both, suspend his candidacy, appeal to his followers to support Hillary and all together get McCain!
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by drwater1 March 22, 2008 12:48 AM EDT
If the votes in Florida and Michigan are not counted the U.S. enemies around the world will have a field day with propaganda
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by my_voice-2009 March 22, 2008 12:24 AM EDT
An old and interesting article from chicago tribune titled Obama knows his way around a ballot

Excerpts from the article is below
The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it

In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there''s a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn''t create barriers to people getting on the ballot."

But the unsparing legal tactics were justified, he said, by obvious flaws in his opponents'' signature sheets. "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled.

"I gave some thought to %u2026 should people be on the ballot even if they didn''t meet the requirements," he said. "My conclusion was that if you couldn''t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."


Link to chicago tribune article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,1,57567.story

Could there be a pattern in using legal procedures to decide the outcome of an election rather than people deciding it?

Only fair way is people from FL and MI to decide the outcome of their election results. If not, then once again the election process would not be a level playing field
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by my_voice-2009 March 22, 2008 12:17 AM EDT
An old and interesting article from chicago tribune titled Obama knows his way around a ballot

Excerpts from the article is below
The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it

In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there''s a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn''t create barriers to people getting on the ballot."

But the unsparing legal tactics were justified, he said, by obvious flaws in his opponents'' signature sheets. "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled.

"I gave some thought to %u2026 should people be on the ballot even if they didn''t meet the requirements," he said. "My conclusion was that if you couldn''t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."


Link to chicago tribune article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,1,57567.story

Could there be a pattern in using legal procedures to decide the outcome of an election rather than people deciding it?

Only fair way is people from FL and MI to decide the outcome of their election results. If not, then once again the election process would not be a level playing field
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by my_voice-2009 March 22, 2008 12:15 AM EDT
An old and interesting article from chicago tribune titled Obama knows his way around a ballot

Excerpts from the article is below
The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it

In a recent interview, Obama granted that "there''s a legitimate argument to be made that you shouldn''t create barriers to people getting on the ballot."

But the unsparing legal tactics were justified, he said, by obvious flaws in his opponents'' signature sheets. "To my mind, we were just abiding by the rules that had been set up," Obama recalled.

"I gave some thought to %u2026 should people be on the ballot even if they didn''t meet the requirements," he said. "My conclusion was that if you couldn''t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."


Link to chicago tribune article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,1,57567.story

Could there be a pattern in using legal procedures to decide the outcome of an election rather than people deciding it?

Only fair way is people from FL and MI to decide the outcome of their election results. If not, then once again the election process would not be a level playing field
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by mattcat25 March 21, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
Osama: %u201CComrades, our plan to sit back and watch the American People self-destruct and implode their Democracy by continuing to vote against their better interests is working better then expected.%u201D

Terrorist1: but great leader what shall we do with all these great weapons that have been provided to us by the mismanaged and corrupt privatized Iraq occupation??

Osama: %u201Cwe%u2019ll sell them back to the American People so they will be better able to fight against each other!%u201D


Entire group: %u201CHAHA! HA HA! HA HA!%u201D
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by blkpresident March 21, 2008 3:33 PM EDT
Osama: Comrades, I have some good news.

Terrorist1: Yes, our great leader. What news do you have.

Osama: The woman is gaining some ground on the man we fear the most, NOT that OLD man McCain, but the young man, Obama.

Terrorist2: Let''s hope ''lil missy wins, so we can destroy America. Either her or the OLD man works best for our agenda.
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by blkpresident March 21, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
Terrorist1: Let''s hope that girl wins.

Terrorist2: I agree. Either her or that OLD man McCain.
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by realidad-2009 March 21, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
Afraid of Truth Now Out!

"A Scandal", How did MSM allow Obama to almost get Dem Nomination without any Vetting, until YouTube videos shown?

One excuse is that the Rev. Wright quotations were taken out of context. This is usually the last refuge of the correctly quoted who can''t think of a better out. There''s no way those statements can be justified or become acceptable even if washed and diluted by six oceans of context.

Another defense offered is that critics don''t understand the black church. As Larry Elder, a black talk show host who understands the black church, said, "Rev. Wright sounds like a combination of David Duke, Minister Farrakhan and Moe of the Three Stooges."

This would be a scandal and an association that would wipe out most candidates, but the mainstream media is acting as a campaign manager and cheerleader for Mr. Obama. In one of the great journalistic disgraces and failures in American history, the mainstream media has allowed Mr. Obama to reach the brink of nomination without any vetting to speak of until now.
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by craigh9 March 21, 2008 10:57 AM EDT
This whole exercise gives you tremndous insight into the primary differences of these 2 candiates.

One that feels that people should play be the rules and be accountable for their actions - and one who feels every situation can be manipulated to satisfy a political want no matter if the situation is appropriate - just do it for personal gain.

I think if people really look at this from this vantage point it is very clear who is the mouch more presidential candidate and who would have clearer, fairer policies.
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by sjf10718 March 21, 2008 4:36 AM EDT
NO OBAMA...HE IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS SPLIT... MOST PPL THAT VOTED FOR OBAMA ARE NOW REGRETING THAT THEY VOTED FOR HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE...TOLD YALL HE WAS FAKED.. BUT NO ONE LISTEN ...NOW LOOK AT THE CONSEQUENSES WE JUST MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER BUSH(MCCAIN) BECAUSE THE WAY PPL ARE TALKING IS IF BARRACK WERE TO WIN THE DEM. NOMINATION EITHER PPL WILL STAY HM OR VOTE FOR MCCAIN...LETS JUST HOPE THIS MOMEMTUM KEEPS BUILDING FOR HILLARY

HILLARY 08!!!
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by drum747 March 21, 2008 4:26 AM EDT
Call me a "Typical White Person" but I believe that,...

The AMERICAN PEOPLE deserve to have their votes counted no matter who you support!!

NOBAMA 08
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by drum747 March 21, 2008 4:20 AM EDT
Obama''s transparency:

http://politico.com/news/stories/1107/6821.html

NOBAMA 08
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by drum747 March 21, 2008 4:18 AM EDT

California: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 40, Obama 54, Und 6 Obama +14

California: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 38, Clinton 56, Und 6
Clinton 18

Minnesota: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 46, Clinton 49, Und 5 Clinton 3

Minnesota: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 47, Obama 46, Und 7 McCain 1

Wisconsin: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 45, Clinton 46, Und 9 Clinton 1

Wisconsin: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 44, Obama 48, Und 8 Obama 4

West Virginia Democratic Primary Rasmussen Clinton 55, Obama 27 Clinton 28

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Franklin & Marshall Clinton 51, Obama 35 Clinton 16

North Carolina Democratic Primary PPP (D) Obama 44, Clinton 43 Obama 1

Colorado: McCain vs. Clinton Rasmussen McCain 52, Clinton 38, Und 10 McCain 14

Colorado: McCain vs. Obama Rasmussen McCain 46, Obama 46, Und 8 Tie

New Hampshire: McCain vs. Obama
Rasmussen McCain 46, Obama 43, Und 11 McCain 3

New Hampshire: McCain vs. Clinton Rasmussen McCain 47, Clinton 41, Und 12 McCain 6

Ohio: McCain vs. Clinton PPP (D) McCain 44, Clinton 45, Und 11 Clinton 1

Ohio: McCain vs. Obama PPP (D) McCain 49, Obama 41, Und 10 McCain 8

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary PPP (D) Clinton 56, Obama 30 Clinton 26

Florida: McCain vs. Clinton PPP (D) McCain 47, Clinton 43, Und 10 McCain 4

Florida: McCain vs. Obama PPP (D) McCain 50, Obama 39, Und 11 McCain 11

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by drum747 March 21, 2008 4:16 AM EDT
Latest polls:

Democratic Presidential Nomination Gallup Tracking Obama 43, Clinton 48 Clinton +5

General Election: McCain vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 46, McCain 43, Und 11 Clinton 3

General Election: McCain vs. Obama FOX News Obama 43, McCain 44, Und 13 McCain 1

Ohio: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 50, Obama 43, Und 7 McCain 7

Ohio: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 44, Clinton 50, Und 6 Clinton 6

Kentucky: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 53, Clinton 43, Und 4 McCain 10

Kentucky: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 64, Obama 28, Und 8 McCain 36

Missouri: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 53, Obama 39, Und 9 McCain 14

Missouri: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 48, Clinton 46, Und 6 McCain 2

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by sjf10718 March 21, 2008 4:09 AM EDT
BLKPRESIDENT

Obama answered doubts about his inexperience by saying he has gained tremendous insight from his work as a community organizer, civil rights attorney, constitutional law professor, key club president, 4H treasurer, lunch room monitor, two years of jazz, and four years of tap
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by jedi08 March 21, 2008 4:07 AM EDT
Let me explain my exact situation and why a re vote in Michigan is totally unfair.

Besides the obvious part of changing the rules I am an independent who is for Obama but when he wasn''t on the ballot I decided to vote for McCain because he was the only republican.

Now if their is a re vote because I voted in the Republican primary I can''t vote in the Dem Primary for my guy.

What a crock. I can''t believe that he is actually going to let a re vote happen.

Totally unfair. You can''t change the rules when the game is almost over.
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by drum747 March 21, 2008 1:56 AM EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has moved into a significant lead over Barack Obama among Democratic voters, according to a new Gallup poll.

The March 14-18 national survey of 1,209 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters gave Clinton, a New York senator, a 49 percent to 42 percent edge over Obama, an Illinois senator

OBAMA''S CHICKENS ARE COMIN HOME TO ROOST!!

NOBAMA 08
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by l00ker March 21, 2008 1:56 AM EDT
"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there''''s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."

Why you lie Obama? Obama why you lie?

NOBAMA 08

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Posted by drum747 at 10:51 PM : Mar 20, 2008
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If the Democrats had the same winner take all system that the Republitards have,...Hillary would have already won the nomination and we would not be in this Obama mess!!

NOBAMA 08

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Posted by drum747 at 10:49 PM : Mar 20, 2008
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If the Democrats had the same winner take all system that the Republitards have,...Hillary would have already won the nomination and we would not be in this Obama mess!!

NOBAMA 08

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Posted by drum747 at 10:49 PM : Mar 20, 2008



Step down? Now why would he step down, when he''s almost home. And you know that''s not going to happen.
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