From The Road
February 23, 2008 12:04 PM

Clinton: "Shame on You, Barack Obama"

(CBS)
From CBS News' Fernando Suarez:

CINCINNATI -- Today, Hillary Clinton aggressively went after Barack Obama, criticizing him for playing similar political games to Karl Rove and at one point saying, "Shame on you, Barack Obama."

Speaking to reporters following a rally at a community college here, Clinton slammed Obama and his campaign for distributing mailings to Ohio voters attacking Clinton’s universal health care plan and her position on NAFTA.

“Today in the crowd I was given two mailings that Senator Obama’s campaign is sending and I have to express my deep disappointment that he is continuing to send false and discredited mailings with information that is not true to the voters of Ohio. He says one thing in speeches and then he turns around does this,” Clinton said waiving the two mailings at the cameras.

“Just because Senator Obama chose not to present a universal health care plan does not give him the right to attack me because I did. So let’s have a real campaign. Enough with the speeches and the big rallies and then using tactics that are right out of Karl Rove's playbook, this is wrong and every Democrat should be outraged.”

“Everything in those mailers is completely accurate," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement. "We look forward to having a debate this Tuesday on the facts, and the facts are that Senator Clinton was a supporter of NAFTA and the China permanent trade treaties until this campaign began. And she herself has said that under the Clinton health care plan, she would consider 'going after the wages' of Americans who don't purchase health insurance, whether they can afford it or not,” Burton continued.

Clinton’s tough tone and sharp words are a stark difference from her tone and appearance on a debate in Austin, Texas two days ago.

When asked about her new tone Clinton skirted the question going back to the mailings and attacking the Obama campaign for funding them.

“This election is about misleading, false and discredited attacks that interfere with voters being able to make an informed judgment,” she said.

“I am not going to stand here and see this campaign polluted by the kind of misleading, discredited and false attacks. We deserve better than that. He’s been called out on it, he has been contradicted on it, he knows better and here it is ‘Paid for by the Obama for America Campaign.’”

“So, shame on you Barack Obama. It is time you ran a campaign consistent with your messages in public, that’s what I expect from you. Meet me in Ohio and let’s have a debate about your tactics and your behavior in this campaign.”

Earlier at the rally, she slammed President Bush, saying that under his presidency “the American people got shafted.”

She also suggested a parallel between Bush and her opponent Barack Obama, saying that talking "about change" doesn't necessarily translate into a successful presidency.

“You know people talk a lot about change in this election,” Clinton said.

”We have lived through some of the worst change anybody could imagine over the last 7 years. Do you think people voting in 2000 knew what they were getting? I don’t. People thought they were getting a compassionate conservative; and it turns out we got neither and we have lived with the consequences of those mistakes year after year after year.”

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!” she added.

“Now more than ever we need a president we can count on, a president who’s in it for you,” said Clinton.

Clinton will hold another event in Ohio today before heading to Louisiana and Texas later this evening.
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by eddynewhope February 23, 2008 1:40 PM PST
What a raging hypocrite. If anyone is employing Karl Rove tactics, it''s the Clinton operation with Mark "Rove" Penn spewing accusations like "drug-dealer", "muslim", plagiarism (as though it''s stealing to use a line suggested by your campaign co-chair", etc. etc. Comedy. Sorry to say but I''m relishing in watching the Clintons crash and burn with their legacy.
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by colorwindows February 23, 2008 1:57 PM PST
Hypocrisy! You think we forget the Clinton prochoice scam in New Hampshire as quick as that?!
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by colorwindows February 23, 2008 1:57 PM PST
Hypocrisy! You think we forget the Clinton prochoice scam in New Hampshire as quick as that?!
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by sjbj2322 February 23, 2008 2:04 PM PST
Wait a minute Eddy....it was your man who said that he was going to change politics in Washington. Looks to me like he''s having trouble keeping his promise. Wonder how much trouble he''d have keeping any of the other hundred or so promises he''s made in this campaign. Truth and Transpariency....WHAT A JOKE!! Your man''s BUSTED!!
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by sweetypaws February 23, 2008 2:18 PM PST
Obama is slick-talking, double-talking, egomaniac who has few if any original ideas of policies. I continue to be amazed at how easily so many American people have been swayed by his rhetoric of change that is largely based on insincere BS. I hate how he patronizes Hillary in debates. He references her name and her policies in answering questions more than any other candidate, bolstering his answers by quoting her views. I wish she would tell him to stop pulling her chair out for her also. He isn''t her date. Obama is the type of person who was say anything and everything that sounds good to get elected. The problem is, he doesn''t have any real experience in Washington to back up his plans. He hasn''t even finished a term in the US Senate. If he and Hillary both walked through the doors of a major corporation applying for the same top CEO job, whose resume would be more impressive? Hillary''s, hands down - unequivocably. Americans who support Obama...be careful what you wish for. Promoting someone to a higher office before they are ready is not a good thing. I''ve interviewed people for jobs who before they even started the one were more interested in the next one before properly building their professional foundation from the bottom up. Obama is skipping essential steps in professional development that we will all pay the price for if he wins this Democratic nomination and the presidency. Except, I''ll vote Republican if Hillary does not get the Democratic nomination.
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by miaw77 February 23, 2008 2:18 PM PST
Fool me once...fool me twice...applies to the Clintons!

The Clinton Smear Machine is at it again with their fake outrage and raging hypocrisy!!!


The MSNBC Hillary Clinton "documentary" features one of Hillary''s closest friends saying (with pride), almost word for word: "Hillary learned (in Arkansas) how to win elections. Go negative and attack your opponent in a personal way!"

I guess in "Billaryland," you stick with what you know. Except that American politics is changing, and the Clintons are left looking like they didn''t get the memo.

"Solutions not speeches"..." Good works, not good words"... "Time to get real"... We''re not buying it!
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by debmood February 23, 2008 2:27 PM PST
Hillary''s tirade would be hilarious if it wasn''t such a serious issue. Her health care plan would mandate that everybody carry it, rather they can afford it or not. Mr. Obama''s plan is NOT a mandate!
Hillary''s screaming and hollering is not going to get her any votes. When I heard her on CNN, I thought to myself...hmmm, she''s totally lost it. I don''t think I want a President who yells and screams everytime something does not go her way or when her feelings are hurt. Then on the other hand I figure, if she''s going to go out, she''ll go out with a bang!

Obama 2008!
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by billy_s2 February 23, 2008 2:27 PM PST
She''s so nice to Obama in the debate, but then she does this? This is crazy. She comes across as a backstabber.
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by miore February 23, 2008 2:37 PM PST
She didn''t say exactly what was misleading about the mailings or what exactly was misrepresented about her positions on NAFTA and her health care plan.
Looks like she was just playing to the gallery.
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by liliu-2009 February 23, 2008 2:50 PM PST
Its plain to see that Hillary Clinton is getting desperate.

"..It is time you ran a campaign consistent with your messages in public, that%u2019s what I expect from you. Meet me in Ohio and let%u2019s have a debate about your tactics and your behavior in this campaign.%u201D

Hmmm...lets talk about a campaign that is consistant with Hillary''s messages in public. Like in her speeches saying that Obama is not ready to be commander in chief, and then when asked if Clinton thinks Obama is ready during the Texas debate, she backed away from what you''ve clearly been saying on the campaign trail. Hmmm...and how about the whole plagiarism silliness..."change you can xerox". Funny, because last night I saw a report on TV that said Hillary repeated almost word for word (in her ''real moment'' at the end of the debate) what her husband had said previously. Hillary Clinton just doesn''t get it. We are tired of the B.S....and thats why she is going to lose.
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by newearth2-2009 February 23, 2008 2:55 PM PST
She didn''t say anything about what was so misleading. She stood by NAFTA Bill signed it into law the worst trade deal ever. Get out of the race we don''t trust you anymore.
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by dari253 February 23, 2008 2:58 PM PST
We need to be able to make "an INFORMED decision". This is what constitutes freedom for me ~ being free to choose. But freedom comes with a price. The price is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. That, for me, means making the time to research and read about each candidate, their policies, their platforms and gain knowledge of each of them.

We have to assess their character based upon their actions through the lens of our own experiences to ascertain who we each believe would best guide and govern this country.

What follows is some that I have come across:

Re: Healthcare:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/opinion/05brooks.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

From the Wall Street Journal:
http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110011092

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110011092


On HRC approving NAFTA:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/hillary-clinton-pretends-_b_86747.html

http://www.bloombergnews.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aTRoX.lYkNsU&refer=home

On Mailers:
(More aptly put, people in glass houses shouldn%u2019t throw stones):
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/01/clinton-mailer.html

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/clintons-new-an.html



Check them out and find others; then decide for yourselves.

Peace!
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by liliu-2009 February 23, 2008 2:58 PM PST
LOL. Hillary wants to have a debate about tactics and behavior in the campaign??? Are you kidding me? I WOULD LOVE to see her try to debate this against Obama.

She''s losing it.
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by missionhill5 February 23, 2008 2:59 PM PST
There''s just something untold about Barack. For me, I have the audacity to hope for an honest candidate. I trust Hillary. I can''t say that about Barack. It doesn''t matter if his followers have the zeal of Scientologists...he''s just not addressing issues that are at the heart of our Democratic party.
What will he do in Iraq? Pakistan? How will he stand up to the military....does he know the difference between a hand grenade and a howitzer? Will he privatize Social Security? His economic advisers suggest he''d lean in that direction. Let''s hear more about these things BEFORE casting our vote.
This election has turned into a celebrity game...forget the past and you''re condemned to repeat it.
Remembering how we ended up with Weasle43? It''s happening again.
YIKES.
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by curiouskat February 23, 2008 3:00 PM PST
Well, for those of us outside of Ohio, might we have a peek at these dastardly fliers? What the heck is she talking about anyway?
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by ej912 February 23, 2008 3:02 PM PST
Does Hilary have multiple personality disorder? Is this the same woman who is saying one evening, "I''m proud to share the stage ..." and is now saying "Shame on you"? Which one is true? Is she proud? Ashamed? Are his fliers qualitatively different from those he has used previously, and if not, why be ashamed now, and proud in a national debate? Me thinks she speaks with forked tongue!!
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by ej912 February 23, 2008 3:03 PM PST
Does Hilary have multiple personality disorder? Is this the same woman who is saying one evening, "I''m proud to share the stage ..." and is now saying "Shame on you"? Which one is true? Is she proud? Ashamed? Are his fliers qualitatively different from those he has used previously, and if not, why be ashamed now, and proud in a national debate? Me thinks she speaks with forked tongue!!
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by curiouskat February 23, 2008 3:03 PM PST
Well, for those of us outside of Ohio, might we have a peek at these dastardly fliers? What the heck is she talking about anyway?
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by ej912 February 23, 2008 3:04 PM PST
Does Hilary have multiple personality disorder? Is this the same woman who is saying one evening, "I''m proud to share the stage ..." and is now saying "Shame on you"? Which one is true? Is she proud? Ashamed? Are his fliers qualitatively different from those he has used previously, and if not, why be ashamed now, and proud in a national debate? Me thinks she speaks with forked tongue!!
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by ej912 February 23, 2008 3:05 PM PST
Does Hilary have multiple personality disorder? Is this the same woman who is saying one evening, "I''m proud to share the stage ..." and is now saying "Shame on you"? Which one is true? Is she proud? Ashamed? Are his fliers qualitatively different from those he has used previously, and if not, why be ashamed now, and proud in a national debate? Me thinks she speaks with forked tongue!!
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by ej912 February 23, 2008 3:06 PM PST
Does Hilary have multiple personality disorder? Is this the same woman who is saying one evening, "I''m proud to share the stage ..." and is now saying "Shame on you"? Which one is true? Is she proud? Ashamed? Are his fliers qualitatively different from those he has used previously, and if not, why be ashamed now, and proud in a national debate? Me thinks she speaks with forked tongue!!
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by b-easy63 February 23, 2008 3:12 PM PST
Uhmmmm. Hilary...can we see those fliers? Can we have one maybe blown up in the Times or something? Is the information true or lies?

EArlier in the campaign, calls about Obama being a Muslim and a potential terrorist were traced back to your campaign---but we can move on--so let''s see the fliers--but before you blame it on Obama, lets do this:

1. Make sure the source was the actual Obama campaign and not a plant placed by your own people to make his people look bad

2. Make sure that the fliers are filled with lies and that the info is not established and able to be verified

3. Make sure one of your shadow groups are not doing this to try to frame him

4. Make sure one of his shadow groups is not doing this without his knowledge

So give us the papers--and we can take it from there--and please do not allow your staff to shred or erase any emails or throw away any Obama stamps they may have in their possession. LMAO
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by hell2thenaw February 23, 2008 3:17 PM PST
Mozzz1,

Based on your comment, no one should vote for Clinton, McCain, or Huckabee. George W. Bush is white leadership.
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by rondlebanks February 23, 2008 3:23 PM PST
Would Hilary still be upset if the word "boon wasn''t used?
I think the flier could have done without the extra comment but at least it has political substance.This is Hilary''s chance to discredit Obama''s campaign on herpast and recent stance with NFTA but she must be careful not to get cuaght up in unessasary comments. She is already labeled as part of the old political system.I support Obama and he could have done without the word boon but it has substance. So will Hilary focus on boon or NAFTA?
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by dari253 February 23, 2008 3:33 PM PST
We need to be able to make "an INFORMED decision". This is what constitutes freedom for me ~ being free to choose. But freedom comes with a price. The price is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. That, for me, means making the time to research and read about each candidate, their policies, their platforms and gain knowledge of each of them.

We have to assess their character based upon their actions through the lens of our own experiences to ascertain who we each believe would best guide and govern this country.

What follows is some that I have come across:

Re: Healthcare:

http://www.nytimes.com/20
08/02/05/opinion/05brooks.html?_r=1&em&o
ref=slogin

From the Wall Street Journal:
http://opinionjournal.com/edit
orial/feature.html?id=110011092

http:
//opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.h
tml?id=110011092


On HRC approving NAFTA:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/da
vid-sirota/hillary-clinton-pretends-_b_8
6747.html

http://www.bloombergnews.co
m/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aTRoX.lYkNs
U&refer=home

On Mailers:
(More aptly put, people in glass houses shouldn%u2019t throw stones):
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co
m/washington/2008/01/clinton-mailer.html


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu
nch/2008/02/clintons-new-an.html




Check them out and find others; then decide for yourselves.

Peace!


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by dooeydon February 23, 2008 3:36 PM PST
Good for Hillary. All during the last debate Obama said at any negatives toward him were "silly politics." He was not going to go the negative route. This just proves that Americans cannot trust Obama (or his puppet masters). If you all would read the facts about Hillary''s health care program instead of "drinking the kool-aid" and blindly following Obama, you might actually learn the truth and not just what is being told to you during his hypnotic speaches. The press and Obama can attack Hillary with no backlash, but let Obama get attacked and the world comes to an end. Do some reading clear back in 06 he was being called the anti-christ!
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by dooeydon February 23, 2008 3:39 PM PST
All this talk about "the Clintons" is wrong. Hillary is her own person. Is it "the Obamas?" Can you imagine what would have happened if Bill would have said this is the first time he was proud of America?
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by adastra8 February 23, 2008 4:09 PM PST
Excuse me, did Clinton just say that she''s upset that Bush isn''t more conservative? Is she trying to rally the Republicans to her now that the Democrats are clearly giving her up?
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by bcaswell February 23, 2008 4:17 PM PST
Desperate words from a desperate campaign.... Whew. Painful desperation.
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by mabs0 February 23, 2008 4:20 PM PST
She has finally lost it! I never thought a ''vetted'' politician, with 35 years of experience in politics, could lose it so bad in public. She obviously has trouble deciding which personality she wants to display in any given day: one day she is nice and feels honored to compete against Obama and the next she is comparing him with Bush and raising hell about some pamphlets that have been around since Iowa. How much can you trust someone like that?

And the funny thing, she wants to meet Obama to discuss his behavior. I guess it''s her maternal instinct shinning through finally but the tone is highly inappropriate for a presidential primary.
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by suzanne_c February 23, 2008 4:28 PM PST
Site administrator, please remove Mozzz1''s racially charged comments -- they are inappropriate and offensive.

Thank you.
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by February 23, 2008 5:14 PM PST
There is no difference between OBAMA, Hillary, or McCAIN. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND THE REPUBLICANS. IT IS CLEAR THAT Hillary Clinton has PARTICIPATED in SEVERAL Builderberg''s meetings all over the WORLD. If you do not know what the Builderbergs are, please
do some research. Their man objective is to have a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT. McCain and Gulliani are the same, GANGSTERS. Their
parents are MOBS. They are MOBS, If you do not believe me, PLEASE DO
SOME RESEARCH. Obama on the other hand is new to the game, he is not
as corrupt as Hillary AND McCain. The objective is to have ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT AND TOTAL CONTROL OF THE WORLD. The reason why September
11, 2001 happened, which was orchestrated by the Bush Administration is TO HAVE A MARSHALL LAW IN THIS COUNTRY. Since then, 1-No Habeus
Corpus 2- The patriot Act, we have what? The Government can detain
you at anytime and put you in the jail in the name of TERRORISM. It
is time for America and the WORLD to wake up. Hillary and McCain are
two of the MOST CORRUPTED PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.
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by geminieye1 February 23, 2008 5:14 PM PST
Wow, this is very sad to read. I was at the Obama rally in Austin last night, and there is no need for him to go so negative. He spoke to thousands from the steps of our State Capitol, she was on a street corner in Dallas talking to a small group. HIS campaign is the one all about uniting, uplifting and helping the American people, and he''s reached out to everyone in a consistently positive, assured, confident, eloquent, gracious and constructive way. Hillary is obviously bitter, resentful, angry, power hungry and fake, and her punishing and caustic tone at this point in the campaign is totally offputting. Her various emotional baggage does not entitle her to the Presidency, a good look at her political record and personal style and capability, and the majority of the American people''s support of that would! Obama doesn''t talk shame, he wants to lead us all on to a brighter and more rewarding future than that. I am a woman and a lifelong feminist, and I say Go Barack!
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by February 23, 2008 5:15 PM PST
If Obama is really
for change, LET ME TELL YOU, the same thing that happened to JFK and
Boddy will happen to HIM. Why? Because, the BANKS AND THE FEDERAL
RESERVE WILL NOT LET ANYONE STANDS ON THEIR WAY. Right now, we are
living a PURE DICTATORSHIP in the USA. How come the OGVERNMENT HAS
HIRED PASTORS TO TEACH FELLOWERS "IF THE GOVERNMENT ASKS YOU FOR
YOUR GUNS, YOU MUST GIVE IT TO IT" WHY? It is simpe, WHEN THE
MARSHALL LAW HAPPENS THEY DO NOT WANT OPPOSITIONS. AND WHY THEY KEEP
ON BUILDING CONCENTRATION CAMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY?
OFCOURSE TO PUT PEOPLE, to put the REVOLUTIONARIES INTO THE CAMPS. IT
IS TIME TO WAKE UP, TO MANIFEST, TO REVOLT AGAINST THE ROTCHILDS,
AGAINST THE ROCKAFELLERS, AND AGAINST THE BUILDERBERGERS. WAKE UP
AMERICA, WAKE UP. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD, PLEASE WATCH: "ZEITGEIST", AND "ENDGAME" FOR FREE on GOOGLE....YOU WILL
THANK
ME LATER.
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by violet68-2009 February 23, 2008 5:16 PM PST
Obama says he wants to rise above politics as usual. Really? I couldn''t tell.
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by February 23, 2008 5:16 PM PST
If Obama is really
for change, LET ME TELL YOU, the same thing that happened to JFK and
Boddy will happen to HIM. Why? Because, the BANKS AND THE FEDERAL
RESERVE WILL NOT LET ANYONE STANDS ON THEIR WAY. Right now, we are
living a PURE DICTATORSHIP in the USA. How come the OGVERNMENT HAS
HIRED PASTORS TO TEACH FELLOWERS "IF THE GOVERNMENT ASKS YOU FOR
YOUR GUNS, YOU MUST GIVE IT TO IT" WHY? It is simpe, WHEN THE
MARSHALL LAW HAPPENS THEY DO NOT WANT OPPOSITIONS. AND WHY THEY KEEP
ON BUILDING CONCENTRATION CAMPS ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY?
OFCOURSE TO PUT PEOPLE, to put the REVOLUTIONARIES INTO THE CAMPS. IT
IS TIME TO WAKE UP, TO MANIFEST, TO REVOLT AGAINST THE ROTCHILDS,
AGAINST THE ROCKAFELLERS, AND AGAINST THE BUILDERBERGERS. WAKE UP
AMERICA, WAKE UP. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS WORLD, PLEASE WATCH: "ZEITGEIST", AND "ENDGAME" FOR FREE on GOOGLE....YOU WILL
THANK
ME LATER.
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by February 23, 2008 5:20 PM PST
Do NOT vote for Hillary. She voted for the war in Iraq. She is pro-wars. That transcends to that by VOTING for the WAR-She is WILLING to get OUR Liberty and Freedom to be taken AWAY from us-By voting for the WAR in Iraq now HABAES CORPUS is being SUSPENDED. The Federal Government has the right to ARREST and PUT in jail ANYONE on the face VALUE that such person is a terrorist. Hillary is FASCIST-There is no difference between McCain, Bush, and Hillary. McCain wants a 100-year war. Hillary dragged us into a war, she will drag us to OTHER WARS-This is about OUR FREEDOM, OUR LIBERTY. Mark my words, IF HILLARY GETS INTO POWER, the same WAY 9/11 happened,SOMETHING SIMILAR TO 9/11 WILL HAPPEN in ORDER TO INSTITUTE MARSHALL LAW IN THIS COUNTRY%u2026she is PRO-WAR, She is FASCIST-WE MUST VOTE EITHER OBAMA or RON PAUL. Please click here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2016096191458745708
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5360434836569199830
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by February 23, 2008 5:22 PM PST
Do NOT vote for Hillary. She voted for the war in Iraq. She is pro-wars. That transcends to that by VOTING for the WAR-She is WILLING to get OUR Liberty and Freedom to be taken AWAY from us-By voting for the WAR in Iraq now HABAES CORPUS is being SUSPENDED. The Federal Government has the right to ARREST and PUT in jail ANYONE on the face VALUE that such person is a terrorist. Hillary is FASCIST-There is no difference between McCain, Bush, and Hillary. McCain wants a 100-year war. Hillary dragged us into a war, she will drag us to OTHER WARS-This is about OUR FREEDOM, OUR LIBERTY. Mark my words, IF HILLARY GETS INTO POWER, the same WAY 9/11 happened,SOMETHING SIMILAR TO 9/11 WILL HAPPEN in ORDER TO INSTITUTE MARSHALL LAW IN THIS COUNTRY%u2026she is PRO-WAR, She is FASCIST-WE MUST VOTE EITHER OBAMA or RON PAUL. Please click here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2016096191458745708

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5360434836569199830
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by geminieye1 February 23, 2008 5:24 PM PST
Wow, this is very sad to read. I was at the Obama rally in Austin last night, and there is no need for him to go so negative. He spoke to thousands from the steps of our State Capitol, she was on a street corner in Dallas talking to a small group. HIS campaign is the one all about uniting, uplifting and helping the American people, and he''s reached out to everyone in a consistently positive, assured, confident, eloquent, gracious and constructive way. Hillary is obviously bitter, resentful, angry, power hungry and fake, and her punishing and caustic tone at this point in the campaign is totally offputting. Her various emotional baggage does not entitle her to the Presidency, a good look at her political record and personal style and capability, and the majority of the American people''s support of that would! Obama doesn''t talk shame, he wants to lead us all on to a brighter and more rewarding future than that. I am a woman and a lifelong feminist, and I say Go Barack!
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by February 23, 2008 5:24 PM PST
I CANNOT BELIEVE IT, SERIOUSLY, WHY IS SHE CRYING FOR SOMETHING OBAMA SAID THAT IS TRUE...AFTER BILLARY AND BILL CLINTON HAS HAD MANY MANY MANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS IN REFERENCE TO OBAMA NOW HILLARY IS CRYING BECAUSE HE SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS TRUE. THAT WAS NOT NEGATIVE AT ALL....SHE EVEN WANTED TO BE NEGATIVE AT THE DEBATE ON TUESDAY NIGHT....SHE IS PLAYING HER LAST CARD. SHE IS GONE. SHE WILL LOSE.
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by February 23, 2008 5:27 PM PST
She is crying like a baby,,wahhhh wahhhhhh i want my bottle,,,,lol,,,, THIS IS COMPLETELY SILLINESS, like Obama said....She is playing her last card...my question is, WAS NAFTA A GOOD DEAL? NO....and Was IT right when BBBILLARY SAID THAT WILL GO AFTER PEOPLE WAGES IN ORDER TO HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE? NO....No, what is the problem here? LOL,,,,,
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by greggheacock February 23, 2008 5:31 PM PST
Obama''s plan relies competition and freedom of choice, supported a Health Care Insurance Exchange, a government plan, and a research and review structure to explore options and lower costs. Hillary''s plan is mandated so that people have to pay what it costs and accept what it gives, even if the costs are high and the options are not what''s desired. It is supported by the government being willing to garnish wages of those who do not come on board.

Obama''s plan is open. Though clearly delineated, it will be the product of negotiations that are open to the public and can be viewed on CSPAN. Hillary''s plan is closed. Like her holiday ad when she offered a grateful nation gifts from under her tree, this one is already wrapped and ready to go--on Day One. That''s what she means when she says she is about solutions: It''s a done deal. We don''t need to be patronized, especially by someone whose patrons include the drug and insurance companies that are already overcharging us.

As we can already see with other mandated insurance plans like no-fault insurance, prices go up, not down. Drug companies and insurance companies that have funded Hillary''s campaign could be the real winners if her plan were to go through.

Obama''s plan involves a process that makes it transitional, giving incentives that benefit health care providers, lowering their own insurance costs along with the cost of providing care. It benefits everyone.
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by nyclxpr February 23, 2008 5:36 PM PST
BARACK IS SOMEONE WHO TALKS A LOT BUT SAYS NOTHING. HIS FOREIGN POLICY ADVISERS ARE OLD CARTER PALS. HIS HEALTH PLAN IS NOTHING.HEALTHCARE MUST BE LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY.OR IT WILL NEVER WORK
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by massinspace February 23, 2008 6:10 PM PST
***???

All those fliers are completely accurate.

Plus these fliers have been distributed for WEEKS now. NO WAY this was just brought to the attention of her campaign. The fact that she''s just getting worked up about them right now is COMPLETELY TACTICAL!
She knows that she is the one being viewed as having run a really shady campaign, and that it is costing her. She is now trying to turn the tables... and ironically, is using more shady tactics to do it. SHAME ON YOU HILLARY!
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by amydugan1 February 23, 2008 6:29 PM PST
Obama says when he is president he will take the tax subsidies given to the oil and coal companies and use that money to invest in green technology, thereby creating jobs here in the US. BUT he fails to mention that in 2005 he voted YES for the Bush energy bill that is responsible for those very tax subsidies to the oil and coal companies.
Hillary voted NO!

Shame On You Barak Obama
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by bluedogtired February 23, 2008 6:44 PM PST
What an incredible acting job on the part of Hillary Clinton. To pull out a political flier from weeks ago and make it out to be some big deal as if he had claimed she was the illegitimate daughter of *** Nixon or something. What does the flier actually say- not much.

It%u2019s not like he accused her of pimping her daughter in Wisconsin- which she did.

It''s not like he accused her brother of getting paid to get people pardoned by her husband- all of which happened.

It''s not like he blamed her and her husband, because she was at ever cabinet meeting, for selling out the working people of the United States through NAFTA and by offer most favored Nation status to China- which is exactly what they did. Out sourcing started under Clinton not Bush.

I have to say "the lady doth protest too much."

It is up to the forth estate to set the record straight if they have the guts to face the Clinton attack machine.
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by bluedogtired February 23, 2008 7:24 PM PST
Ironic for Hillary Clinton to shame anyone. In order to shame someone you have to understand and appreciate what shame is. the Clinton''s are deviod of shame. Shame is not a part of their ethical, moral or cultural lexicon.

Attack! Attack! Distract! Distract! that is the Clinton stratedy. As for karl Rove- yeah he learned everything from them. it is time for change we don''t need these people to lead this country.

20 years of Clinton''s and Bush''s is enough. We''ve all had enough of this garbage.

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by rrcampbell11 February 23, 2008 8:44 PM PST
Do we really want to spend four years (or more) listening to a president who thumps papers (especially ones she''s seem before and had plenty of time to refer to in her smiley debates) and who shouts "Shame" on someone like some mean ole grand school teacher?

I know this was a run-on sentence. Well, shame on me then.

: - (

(PS - The contrast between Clinton and Obama''s health care plans - the subject of the "shame on you" meltdown of today - was already discussed on the last debate. So what gives?)
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by wutuloadu February 23, 2008 11:12 PM PST
Hillary''s meltdown reminds me of that frustrated tirade the lady prosecutor in the famous "Kennedy rape trial" in Palm Beach spouted off. Does anyone remember that ? - " well Mr. Smith, what are you some kind of *** machine?!"...after the Kennedy clanboy calmly and cleverly explained his observations of that infamous night to the shrieking ,fist on hips, lady attorney that was clearly out of her league...that is not to say about all of our wonderfully professional lady lawyers today, but come on, she set the meter back on progress there one giant leap.
...kinda reminds me of this competition between a smooth talking, calm and collective pro with leadership qualities and the other... so out of her league.
- she''s starting to shriek now just as they said she will. heheh..."since when do democrats attack one another on healthcare ?"...indeed mz clinton, when ?
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by ginty4 February 23, 2008 11:38 PM PST
Why is it so hard for Barak supporters to recognize that there is a learning curve at getting the right change accomplished? Why is it so hard to see that Universal Health Care needs to follow the models of Social Security and Medicare and if you start out with a compromised position - like Barak%u2019s - then it is all the easier for the Republicans to chew it down. Shame on YOU Barak supporters! You value your desire to be inspired more than you value health Care for us all. Shame on YOU!
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