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January 25, 2008 2:02 PM

Young Vets Most At Risk For Suicide In Oregon

(CBS)
A report out of the state of Oregon reinforces the results of a CBS News investigation from last November that found high rates of suicides among those who served in the military.

The state health report, “Violent Deaths in Oregon: 2005” found 18 to 24-year-old male veterans had the highest rate of suicide among all males in the state from 2000 to 2005 – almost 5 times higher than non-veteran males the same age. (The bar chart above shows the figures.)

“We were shocked [by the results],” Lisa Millet, Project Manager for Oregon's Violent Death Reporting System which conducted the study, told CBS News.

Data for the report was collected from local medical examiners, police reports and death certificates. In 2005, veterans accounted for 28 percent of all suicides in Oregon. The majority of the veteran suicides (97 percent) were committed by males. And overall, in the years 2000 to 2005, male veterans died of self-inflicted wounds in Oregon at more than double the rate of male non-veterans.

Here are the rates of suicide per 100,000 males (statistically adjusted for age) from the report:

2000-2005 Oregon Male Rates of Suicide
Veterans = 46.05 per 100,000
Non-Veterans = 22.09 per 100,000

Millet says when Oregon state researchers broken down the veteran suicide data (for 2000 to 2005) by age, three groups had “significantly” higher rates. She provided CBS News with those rates:

(Note: Millet says the following rates of suicide are statistically adjusted for age and by year to weed out any random factors so the comparison between veterans and non-veterans is an “oranges to oranges” match.)

Oregon Males Ages: 18-24
Veterans = 134 per 100,000
Non-Veterans = 27 per 100,000

Oregon Males Ages: 35-44
Veterans = 47 per 100,000
Non-Veterans = 26 per 100,000

Oregon Males Ages: 45-54
Veterans = 48 per 100,000
Non-Veterans = 28 per 100,000

“These statistics are deeply troubling,” says Paul Rieckhoff, executive director of the advocate group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. “This study should serve as a wake up call for Oregon's governor, lawmakers and all of our nation's leaders.”

The Oregon findings are consistent with what Chief Investigative Correspondent Armen Keteyian reported two-months ago in an exclusive investigation. After collecting death record data from states across the country, CBS News discovered that the (adjusted) rate of suicide for veterans nationwide is more than twice that of non-veterans. And, like the state of Oregon, CBS also found that the veterans most at risk for suicide nationwide are those aged 20 through 24. They had a rate of suicide two to four times higher than non-veterans the same age.

Researchers with Oregon's Violent Death Reporting System are now digging deeper into the issue of veteran suicides as a result of their recent findings. According to Millet, they plan to team up with the Oregon National Guard and the Portland Department of Veterans Affairs to gain more information about the individuals who died of suicide. Millet says “we need to see what can be done to reduce the problem.”


Watch CBS News’ suicide investigation here.


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by godofredo29 January 25, 2008 6:28 PM PST
Too bad you don''t mean the CDC when you say "Primary Source." If you looked there, you''d see that all males are more at risk for suicide--it''s endemic to the gender and we''re raised to think that we should kill ourselves if things get bad. Whether it''s a veteran or not, the underlying causes, all listed in the CDC''s fact sheets on suicide, are going to be the same. The problem is that journalists see suicide as an irresistible opportunity to practice their creative writing and they sieze it. They don''t care about the individuals--women always blame men for their health issues, mental and physical. It''s always something they did--didn''t go to the doctor, didn''t go to the therapist, didn''t do this, didn''t do that--that has led them to fall ill.
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by excoachken January 25, 2008 6:49 PM PST
godofredo: Please, do not minize the impact of military experiences on the potential for suicide by arguing nuance of research. These guys have been exploited via their own capacity to care and risk life and limb for other human beings. And, most of those the deal with do not even like them, let alone show thanks for their efforts. Can''t you just accept the fact that we have created a huge problem because of this sorry war?
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by sidkeith7 January 25, 2008 6:53 PM PST
At the Republican Presidential Debate in Florida"Timmy" asked each candidate if the Iraq War is worth it.
All but Ron Paul said it is.
Now ask ALL THE FAMILIES which have lost a vet to suicide and see WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
Of course, NONE OF THE "CANDYDATES" HAVE HAD OR WILL HAVE any sons or daughters EXPOSED TO THE STRESSES OF COMBAT, you know?
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by feelfree1 January 25, 2008 7:33 PM PST

Related:

"Army Suicides Highest in 26 Years"

Thursday August 16, 2007

"WASHINGTON (AP) - Army soldiers committed suicide last year at the highest rate in 26 years, and more than a quarter did so while serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new military report."
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by feelfree1 January 25, 2008 7:38 PM PST

Related:

"Veteran Suicides Highest Yet Recorded"

"(AP) Hundreds of troops have come home from war, left the military and committed suicide."

"That is the finding of preliminary Veterans Affairs Department research obtained by The Associated Press that provides the first quantitative look at the suicide toll on today''s combat veterans."
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by sidkeith7 January 25, 2008 7:49 PM PST
Gateway1 can call names and use abusive language alright....To bad he,(or she, as the case may be) can not differentiate even between apples and oranges...
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by andrew_693 January 25, 2008 8:40 PM PST
I guess this is what they mean when they say "will make your son army strong". Strong to blow his brains out.
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by donbl1 January 25, 2008 10:18 PM PST
Once again, partially trained people working with statistics on a serious subject.

The numbers are so small that a slight difference is magnified.

48 per 100,000 is also .48 per 1000 or .048 per 100; i.e., .048% of veterans.

128 per 100,000 is .128%.

In otherwords, there might be a problem, but the numbers are so small that the data can become skewed very easily leading a biased researcher to a flawed conclusion. For example, is the general population of non-veteran 18-24 mostly in college? What are the veterans doing? Lots of variables. Are the veterans Iraq veterans or are they other services? What percent are honorably discharged?
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by cdfoxtrot January 25, 2008 11:39 PM PST
Maybe they should move. If I lived in Oregon I''d be suicidal too.
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by ubrew12 January 26, 2008 12:08 AM PST
cdfoxtrot said: "If I lived in Oregon I''''d be suicidal too."
If you lived in Oregon the rest of us would move (or commit suicide).
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 4:59 AM PST
Maybe they should move. If I lived in Oregon I''''d be suicidal too.


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Posted by cdfoxtrot at 11:39 PM : Jan 25, 2008
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This is without a doubt the dumbest statement I''ve ever heard... most disrespectful of veterans too. I know and fought with Brothers from just about every state in this great nation and frankly I''ve had quite enough of this "Party" garbage. Enough already!!
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 5:00 AM PST
What is it about Oregon that makes that one particular group so far outside the norm? A study recently released showed that, nationwide, vets have a LOWER risk of suicide. Something was either botched in this study, numbers were twisted, or Oregon treats it''''s young vets like cr4p.


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Posted by TheGateway1 at 06:53 PM : Jan 25, 2008
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YOU sir are a LIAR! I''ve belonged to and been involved with the DAV for decades now and YOU are a LIAR!!
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 5:03 AM PST
Glad you posted it like this, shows us just how much you want apples and oranges to look like bananas.

A vet commiting suicide and it''''s effects on their family as oppossed to support for the Iraq War are two completely seperate issues. Ask a person who has lost a relative to a drunk driver if alcohol laws are strict enough, and ask someone who HASN''''T lost a relative the same question, you''''ll get two different answers.

LITTLE PIECE OF CR4P YOU ARE, JUST WANNA MAKE YOUR POINT OFF OF THE GRIEF OF MILITARY FAMILIES. I JUST PROVED HOW YOU TWIST THE QUESTIONS TO TRY AND DO JUST THAT. Apples and oranges, jerk.

Posted by TheGateway1 at 06:59 PM : Jan 25, 2008
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YOU are the most ignorant person I''ve ever encountered when it comes to Veteran''s Issues!! What kind of IDIOT says that War does NOT effect a person in a negative way when they find out that that war was based on LIES. As a Vietnam Veteran I can tell you first hand that is the case and a very valid case indeed. I do wish you One Party Rule People would TRY to show a little compassion... JUST try!
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 5:07 AM PST
In otherwords, there might be a problem, but the numbers are so small that the data can become skewed very easily leading a biased researcher to a flawed conclusion. For example, is the general population of non-veteran 18-24 mostly in college? What are the veterans doing? Lots of variables. Are the veterans Iraq veterans or are they other services? What percent are honorably discharged?

Posted by donbl1 at 10:18 PM : Jan 25, 2008
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It amazes me how you folks in the Bush Cult can go to such lengths to down play a very real problem for us, the veterans, yet completely ignore and deny all the lies that took them into harms way in the first place. Why is that? Have you even the first time taken the time to actually visit a veteran who has suffered the mental problems brought about by Combat? You people seem to think it''s just a John Wayne Movie or something. Take it from me that is NOT the case.
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 6:30 AM PST
By the way, what were the suicide rates for returning Vietnam vets, who were spat upon, ridiculed, mocked, and shunned by society?

If they aren''''t higher than this survey, than you know the results here are false.


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Posted by TheGateway1 at 06:22 AM : Jan 26, 2008
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You seem to have some sort of Political Agenda here my friend. BECAUSE we were drafted and the kids today "Join" make''s little difference in Combat. The vast majority of those today who "join" do so because they can find no options in our society today. Regardless the issue is the REASON for the war and why it''s fought. Again have you reviewed the lies told by Bush. I can promise you that the vast majority of Vets have. A lie is a lie. The only difference I see is it took MY generation a lot longer and thus an lot more harm to find out they were lied too.
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 6:33 AM PST
And FeelFree, you just love it whenever the death of a service member is mentioned. It props up your liberal anti-war agenda, no matter what lives are affected, as long as it isn''''t yours. You and SearingTruth are the worst of the lot on these forums.


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Posted by TheGateway1 at 06:19 AM : Jan 26, 2008
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What is it with you? Is there anyone who doesn''t agree with you that you do not hate? Without a doubt you are a disgusting person but the way you attempt to trash everyone who doesn''t belong to the Bush Cult is rediculous. By the way I come on early because I have to teach classes for most of the day and evening''s now... only time I have to make my opinions known.
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 6:47 AM PST
Explain why so many people are in the military, and are also re-enlisting. You can''''t, not with your reasoning. So stuff a sock in it.


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Posted by TheGateway1 at 06:28 AM : Jan 26, 2008
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Again you sir are a LIAR! The facts and records indicate that the Army just LOWERED for the FIFTH time its requirements. The facts also, indicate ADDITIONAL funds applied by this Administration to get people to re-enlist because they could NOT meet their quota''s. When you look at the previous 12 month period AND taking into account the fact that the quota''s were adjusted down, the Army only met that quota twice. Now put that together with the fact that the Army will NOT allow people, who enlisted prior to Iraq, to go back to civilian life and you have YOUR LIE in FACTs. If you will search the news in the past years you can find these and more stories to establish your insanity. By the way the VETS I suggested you visit was the one''s you were trashing...the one''s who have the problems!
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by skyk-2009 January 26, 2008 6:50 AM PST
Posted by TheGateway1 By the way, have you found ONE of the 935 lies told by the Bush Administration that you can say was TRUTH? I''ve gone over them again and can''t find ONE, not ONE truth amoung all NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE!!
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by myidoncbs January 26, 2008 7:14 AM PST
Various quotes from a mo.ron:

"...this being an all-volunteer military, they''d all up and let their enlistments end without re-enlisting".

Apparently you haven''t heard anything about the INVOLUNTARY service extensions caused by Bush''s "stop-loss" orders! You can check in, but you can never check out.

"the results are falsified"

How convenient! You just dismiss anything you don''t want to hear by insisting that "liberals" made it up to try to make you feel bad.

And just for fun, here''s a classic indication of a statement by someone who can''t understand cause and effect:

"You come on these forums, and search through replies real early in the mornings in hopes of getting your two cents in without reprisals."

Think about this for a moment, mo.ron. The sooner sombody posts something, the more people will have a chance to read it, and therefore more, not less, people will have a chance to reply. (Or, to use your word, to make "reprisals", which are "retaliatory actions against an enemy in wartime".) What a pathetic little life you must have, to be plotting retaliatory strikes against all the people you disagree with!
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by mcvet January 26, 2008 7:34 AM PST
Ain''''t happening though, is it? You wanna talk to vets, talk to the ones still serving. I see active duty, seperated, and retired veterans everyday, and they think nothing like you.

Explain why so many people are in the military, and are also re-enlisting. You can''''t, not with your reasoning. So stuff a sock in it.


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Posted by TheGateway1 at 06:28 AM : Jan 26, 2008
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It must be nice to live in the world do the Swastika! There you don''t have to worry about reality or fact... you just listen to the leader of your nazi youth group and make it up as you go along!! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Bush! You know sparky they say wearing a swastika makes you stupid...how many do you have on??? ROFLMAO
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