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January 7, 2008 6:10 AM

Huckabee Sounding A Little Like Ron Paul

(CBS)
From CBS News' Joy Lin:

WINDHAM, N.H. -- Speaking to a packed gymnasium Sunday, Mike Huckabee sounded off on how politicians in Washington, D.C. had spent beyond their public mandate. He then threw in a line about money printing that could have come out of Ron Paul’s mouth.

“We sent them there to cut spending, and they didn’t do it. They’ve spent more money than has ever been spent. Guess where that money is coming from. Your pocket," Huckabee said.

"Just remember this, when government says we’re giving you things, remember before the government can give you something, the government has to take it from you first. And the handling charge is extraordinary.”

“We need to say no to government spending when it’s wrecking our grandchildren’s futures. Nine trilllion dollars worth of debt on your credit card that somebody transferred to the next several generations. That’s irresponsible. And what’s their answer? Spend more. Print more, spend more.”

Interestingly, Huckabee’s words sound like an issues statement on fellow candidate Ron Paul's campaign website. It's not plagiarism, but their points are quite similar: “Today, too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin. We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation. Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren. If we don’t cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future — and yours. In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply — making each dollar in your pocket worth less.”

At the Jan. 5 GOP debate, Ron Paul said “We run up the deficits. We tax. We borrow. We borrow from the Chinese. We can't borrow enough. Then what do we do? We print the money.”

Paul has consistently accused the government of feeding inflation by printing more money to pay debt.

Huckabee didn’t venture into the subject of inflation today, but rather continued on to revisit his own record as governor. He noted that as governor he had balanced the budget every year, transforming a budget with a $200 million deficit into an $850 million surplus when he left office.

“That’s how it’s supposed to work. Not to leave debt to your children, but leave things in better shape, not worse,” Huckabee said.
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by rpsupporter January 7, 2008 7:58 AM PST
I''m glad you pointed this out.

Huckabee is discussing inflation.

Giuliani is invoking the founding fathers.

Thompson is citing the constitution.

Romney is worried about the future for his grandchildren because of excessive gocernment spending.

What next? McCain calling for a
troop withdrawal?

The thing that bothers me is that I watched the ABC debates and all of these jokers were making fun of Ron Paul, laughing when he was speaking, interupting him, McCain making a comment about "missing him" on Sunday night at the FOX debate. Yet all of them are stealing bits of his platform hoping for a few extra points in the polls. They all disgust me.

Ron Paul is only candidate that really understands the economic problems we face.
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by heart4wisdom January 7, 2008 8:10 AM PST
"First, you know, a new theory is attacked as absurd; then it is admitted to be true, but obvious and insignificant; finally, it is seen to be so important that it''s adversaries claim that they themselves discovered it.'' William James
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by rosco1776 January 7, 2008 8:12 AM PST
Hmmm, another Ron Paul wannabe! I recognize a wolf in sheeps clothing though.
Go Ron Paul!
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by i2ambler January 7, 2008 8:15 AM PST
Huckabee has been stealing talking points from Ron Paul for a month. Im glad its more than just Ron Paul supporters picking it up. It IS plagarism - since only now has Huckabee begun talking this way. It sickens me. This is not the first time - listen to his talk about ''letting doctors and their patients decide about their healthcare'' .. And ''let the markets decide'' etc..
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by minutes1440 January 7, 2008 8:17 AM PST
I wouldn''t mind the other candidates stealing Ron Paul''s thunder if they really meant to do what Ron Paul would do as president. Huckabee will continue to increase spending as he did in Arkansas. Giuliani doesn''t give two hoots about the Founding Fathers, and Thompson picks and chooses when he follows the Constitution. These guys are a joke, and Ron Paul is the real deal.
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by snarkmeister January 7, 2008 8:23 AM PST
So even though he has been largely ignored by media, mocked by the political establishment, and laughed at by his colleagues, Ron Paul is winning the war of ideas? Wonderful! I doubt the good doctor would want for more.
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by sratiug January 7, 2008 8:36 AM PST
In the end these actors will copy all of Dr. Ron Paul''s positions because they are the correct positions. That''s why Fascist news is so afraid of Dr. Paul. Ron Paul 2008!!! Huckabee''s flat tax is not a Ron Paul position because it sucks and will enable more federal government involvement in every transaction in the U.S.
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by fitzonetj January 7, 2008 8:40 AM PST
I''ve seen this too over the past few months. Pretty much all the Repuiblican candidates have started putting their own Ron Paul slant into their rhetoric. I really think they are just hoping that Ron Paul supporters will jump ship and support them if they pay some lip service to Ron Paul''s message.
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by rosco1776 January 7, 2008 8:52 AM PST
Hmmm, another Ron Paul wannabe! I recognize a wolf in sheeps clothing though.
Go Ron Paul!
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by tessies101 January 7, 2008 9:13 AM PST
Huckabee is going to say and do anything in order to get into the White House, even if he has to pretend and starts sounding like Ron Paul. Mike Huckabee''s record shows what a taxraising, warmongering fool he really is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uk-T46soz8

Huck does not have a chance, people already know that. Ron Paul has my vote and support.
http://ronpaul2008.com
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by avejoe1 January 7, 2008 9:14 AM PST
Ron Paul didn''t accuse the Gov''t of printing more money, he accuses the politicans of spending the money, he points out that a private bank prints the money. Nice try by the Huckster. However, as the Gov of Arkansas he was part of the problem Dr. Paul talks about.
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by edw987 January 7, 2008 9:14 AM PST
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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by iquotient January 7, 2008 9:16 AM PST
Massive surplus can only be achieved by one of two ways. Either there were spending cuts or overtaxation. There isn''t a lot of talk about a large Arkansas tax rebate, because it didn''t happen. Ask yourself if YOU are going to be better off eliminating the income tax and then start paying the same tax as millionaires through a sales tax. It will wipe out the middle class. Would Jesus change his mind like Huckabee, or would he have the record of Ron Paul? You know a christian by his actions.
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by SealTeam2 January 7, 2008 9:18 AM PST
As a staunch conservative Republican, I like Dr. Ron Paul. I support much of what he says about fiscal responsibility, but, I disagree with his ''cut and run" policy regarding Iraq and our presence in the middle east.

That having been said, let us all remember that the tone and delivery of a message is as important as the messenger. Mike Huckabee is articulate in his message and presents himself in such a way as to appeal to the eyes and ears of the electorate. Communication is very important as we learned from President Ronald Reagan.

Dr. Ron Paul is a good and decent man, but, he is unelectable. I would highly suggest that whoever gets the nomination for President and goes onto win the White House, should consider Dr. Paul as an economic advisor.

Let us rally behind Mike Huckabee and I know that Governor Huckabee would welcome Dr. Paul''s support.
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by aleblanc14 January 7, 2008 9:20 AM PST
I''m glad Huckabee is coming around to Ron Paul''s way of thinking.
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by samurai_man-2009 January 7, 2008 9:31 AM PST
Ron Paul is the real deal and it''s a tribute to his honesty, integrity, and the truthfulness of his views that other Republicans now seek to copy him. Paul''s views have been consistant and truthful over the last two decades - and current times prove them to be the most relevant.
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by clickron January 7, 2008 9:33 AM PST
I listened to the Dems debate and got the impression that the general election will be a cakewalk because of the war-mongering positions of McCain, Romney, Guiliani, Thompson & Huck. This makes Ron Paul, the only electable candidate. Consider that China has never had anything to do with the Middle East. They are invisible as far as the terrorists are concerned. We import most of our oil from Canada, only 5% comes from the middle east. We will NEVER change the 10,000 year war, let it go!
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by clickron January 7, 2008 9:39 AM PST
I have watched Huckabee steal everything from everybody that received a positive rise for another candidate. How can you not see him continually change colors while he preaches. He wants a federal ban on smoking and recently signed a pact with his wife, whereby she accepts the position of SERVANT in the marriage at an evangelical convention. Just watching the pauses in his speeches, then the famous eyebrow raise...I feel like passing around the collection basket. According to Bush, God speaks through him, do we really need more of that?
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by thirty3na3rd January 7, 2008 9:42 AM PST
Ron Paul is electable. The voters just have to decide that they''d rather vote for the honest statesman they complain every election that they don''t have on the ballot to vote for. We are depending on New Hampshire to lead the way!
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by bones1389 January 7, 2008 9:46 AM PST
So why vote for the other candidates who are each stealing Ron Paul''s best ideas when we could just vote for him and get all those great ideas at once?
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by Liza2b January 7, 2008 9:47 AM PST
If everyone is sounding more and more like Dr. Paul, why is it you do not have a link for more people to find out about him? You have EVERY other candidate! This is outrageous. The lack of respect shown to candidates the media is afraid of is astonishing. I''m glad I get my news elsewhere. Google RON PAUL and find out out what the media DOESN''T want you to know.
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by thirty3na3rd January 7, 2008 9:53 AM PST
By the way, thanks again for another great article, Joy. Your efforts are appreciated.
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by drmikepac January 7, 2008 10:06 AM PST
A balanced budget doesn''t even come close to fixing the problems that lay ahead. Please see this interview with David Walker, Comptroller General(chief bean counter)of the US:

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/22001

and then post your opinions as to the "solutions" being offered by the candidates. It is obvious that Dr Paul is the only one who fully understands the size of the freight train coming at us.
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by jonathonwall January 7, 2008 10:06 AM PST
I hear a lot of people say things like, "Ron Paul is a good and honest man, but he is unelectable". Why do people think that an honest politician is "unelectable"?...if he was, would he have made it 18 years in congress? If you can vote for a snake and sleep at night, go right ahead. I won''t be the one responsible when this country falls apart. I''m placing my vote with someone honest no matter what the odds. And that man is Ron Paul.
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by lnardozi January 7, 2008 10:13 AM PST
HuckaPaul seems to be doing quite well with Dr. Paul''s message. He taks the points that get applause and avoid the points that are contentious. It leads to interesting statements like add to defense and cut spending. Of course, he can do that WITHOUT reducing entitlements. What a joke. Dr. Paul has WRITTEN books on economics. Can ANY other candidate say the same?
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by alaney2 January 7, 2008 10:19 AM PST
The only surprise here, is that CBS is reporting this........and for that, I say thanks! If the media covered Ron Paul with professionalism, instead of with manipulative desires, he would be the hands on favorite - right now. As is, we''ll have to wait until all the media darlings have gagged themselves on their own spinjuice.
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by aliciajoleen January 7, 2008 10:30 AM PST
I am wondering why at the top where you have browse topics, you have RUDY listed 2 times!!! And yet Ron Paul isn''t on that list??? Like this isn''t all "fixed". You can''t say "oops our mistake". You purposely exclude Ron Paul. I would be ashamed of myself, how can you disrespect the next president?
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by amishcar January 7, 2008 10:45 AM PST
Ron Paul Money Bomb. Jan 21st. Martin Luther King Day. Spread the word and Donate. Look it Up.
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by jobladyjudy January 7, 2008 10:50 AM PST
Yes he does sound like Ron Paul.
Well now really did we think this would not happen? Ron Paul''s message is a true pure message so of course the other folks will try to steal his thunder. Important thing is people may be waking up and finally See Ron Paul cares about this country.
J. Hausler Texas
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by txwatersnake January 7, 2008 10:55 AM PST
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Then again, Huck is just saying what he sees to be popular with the people.

Too bad he''s really a tax-and-spend Democrat. His record is available for anyone who cares to check it.

Ron Paul, on the other hand, means what he says. His actions have been consistent with what he says for over two decades. He has practiced fiscal responsibility in his campaigning, as well as in his Congressional duties. Ron Paul deserves our votes and support.
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by john2741 January 7, 2008 11:01 AM PST
This shows that Ron Paul is winning because his message is spreading and being accepted. Go Ron Paul!

While researching the Federal Reserve, to my surprise, I found that Bernanke admitted the Fed caused the Great Depression.
I documented my notes here http://curedmyapathy.blogspot.com/2008/01/federal-reserve-admits-causing-great.html
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by chipaugel January 7, 2008 11:04 AM PST
In Iowa, it was the evangelical theme. In New Hampshire, its a libertarian theme. He simply says whatever the people in any given state want to hear, but doesn''t truly have any backbone when it comes to policy.
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by mikeketcher January 7, 2008 11:06 AM PST
Huckabee and all the others snicker about Ron Paul behind his back at the debates, but they try to latch on to his ideas. So they all blather about the Constitution, tax reform, monetary reform, etc. -- but they don''t really speak from the heart, as Ron Paul does, and nobody believes them. Huckabee and the others are nothing more than political animals -- nor moral fiber whatsoever. They''ll move whichever way they think the political winds are blowing.

For a great satire on the president, the mainstream media, and the war on terror, see this YouTube music video from the international award-winning zombie musical feature film, %u201CSong of the Dead.%u201D It%u2019 stars horror movie veteran Reggie Bannister (Phantasm, Wishmaster, Bubba Ho-tep) as the president of the U.S. The filmmaker, Chip Gubera, is giving a share of his profits from DVD sales to the Ron Paul campaign. Go to:
youtube.com/watch?v=qQmkkoxSKYw
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by trestradapalma January 7, 2008 11:26 AM PST
That ah Shuckabee talk about giving and taking away money with tax - is that why the former Arkansas governor decided to raise all those taxes while in office?
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by trestradapalma January 7, 2008 11:27 AM PST
That ah Shuckabee talk about giving and taking away money with tax - is that why the former Arkansas governor decided to raise all those taxes while in office?
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by trestradapalma January 7, 2008 11:29 AM PST
That ah Shuckabee talk about giving and taking away money with tax - is that why the former Arkansas governor decided to raise all those taxes while in office?
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by freedomjunky January 7, 2008 11:34 AM PST
This is why Ron Paul is running for president. Even if he (God Forbid) doesn''t win the primary, we still win if the other candidate actually will change the policy. This is why we are in this, to CHANGE what is in place. The more these candidates talk, the more they realize Ron Paul is right! Thank Goodness otherwise there would be no hope at all. I just want them to do what they say dammit! I would really Love Ron Paul to be president though.
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by Republicae January 7, 2008 11:42 AM PST
Huckabee is definitely trying his best to camoflage himself, but the fact of the matter is that anyone who appoints the likes of Richard Hass to advise him on foreign policy is defintely on the frige of our traditional Constitutional Values.

Mike Huckabee is listening to Hass and this is what Hass believes about our National Sovereignty:

%u201COur notion of sovereignty must therefore be conditional, even contractual, rather than absolute.%u201C

"For 350 years, sovereignty %u2013 the notion that states are the central actors on the world stage and that governments are essentially free to do what they want within their own territory but not within the territory of other states %u2013 has provided the organizing principle of international relations. The time has come to rethink this notion."

"Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function."

"Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere."


How can anyone place their trust in such a man as the President of this country when he listens to people that advocate such sedition against this country?
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by velocitor January 7, 2008 11:43 AM PST
The difference is that Ron Paul walks the walk... Chucklebee probably doesn''t even comprehend what he''s saying, and regardless has no intention of significantly reducing the size of government or putting us back on the gold standard.... he''s just parroting words which resonated with voters.
Why settle for a poor facsimile when you can have the real thing? VOTE FOR RON PAUL!
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by juice797 January 7, 2008 11:43 AM PST
Unfortunately, Huckabee isn''t actually changing his position to Paul''s. He''s just adopting the rhetoric so he can win. What a phony. He never used to talk like Ron Paul.
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by Republicae January 7, 2008 12:00 PM PST
John2741...The FED has caused every single recession and bubble and bust in this country since the Great Depression. It''s called redistribution of wealth!
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by TheArkhamAngel January 7, 2008 12:36 PM PST
Of course he does.. We already had another Governor from Arkansas that did the same thing back in 92. Taking everyone''s ideas and making them his own.

One Governor from Arkansas is enough. We don''t need another -- no matter what side of the carpet he''s on.
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by rsforeman January 7, 2008 12:46 PM PST
Every candidate out there today is a phony other than Ron Paul. There is not one candidate that will give the citizens a straight answer and stand up for what they believe in. Flip Flop, Flip Flop is all they do. Ron Paul has the life long proven track record and has always stood by his convictions! The candidates are taking notice to Ron Paul''s uprising and Huckabee wants his votes! ronpaul2008.com - Go Ron!
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by jawrightbiz January 7, 2008 12:46 PM PST
I too have noticed that candidate Huckabee has been slowly integrating Ron Pauls message into his speeches. If everyone will walk down memory lane with me to the debate where Huckabee and Paul were asked what three aspects of governement they would get rid of to reduce government spending. (I believe it was the debate before the Univision debate) Ron Paul with no hesitation or care for how his answered would be spun replied the department of education, entitlements, and overseas military spending. Huckabee only gave one answer and it was to get rid of the I.R.S. The reason he didn''t give the other two answers is because the audience was clapping for an extended period of time. I felt Ron Paul should have said the same thing but if everyone notices, this is immediately before Huckabee started gaining massive media attention and the first of many times Huckabee began using Ron Pauls positions. Please everyone, do not be led astray by those who would do what Bush did to get elected, and that is saying what people want to hear.
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by jawrightbiz January 7, 2008 12:47 PM PST
I too have noticed that candidate Huckabee has been slowly integrating Ron Pauls message into his speeches. If everyone will walk down memory lane with me to the debate where Huckabee and Paul were asked what three aspects of governement they would get rid of to reduce government spending. (I believe it was the debate before the Univision debate) Ron Paul with no hesitation or care for how his answered would be spun replied the department of education, entitlements, and overseas military spending. Huckabee only gave one answer and it was to get rid of the I.R.S. The reason he didn''t give the other two answers is because the audience was clapping for an extended period of time. I felt Ron Paul should have said the same thing but if everyone notices, this is immediately before Huckabee started gaining massive media attention and the first of many times Huckabee began using Ron Pauls positions. Please everyone, do not be led astray by those who would do what Bush did to get elected, and that is saying what people want to hear.
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by jawrightbiz January 7, 2008 12:48 PM PST
I too have noticed that candidate Huckabee has been slowly integrating Ron Pauls message into his speeches. If everyone will walk down memory lane with me to the debate where Huckabee and Paul were asked what three aspects of governement they would get rid of to reduce government spending. (I believe it was the debate before the Univision debate) Ron Paul with no hesitation or care for how his answered would be spun replied the department of education, entitlements, and overseas military spending. Huckabee only gave one answer and it was to get rid of the I.R.S. The reason he didn''t give the other two answers is because the audience was clapping for an extended period of time. I felt Ron Paul should have said the same thing but if everyone notices, this is immediately before Huckabee started gaining massive media attention and the first of many times Huckabee began using Ron Pauls positions. Please everyone, do not be led astray by those who would do what Bush did to get elected, and that is saying what people want to hear.
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by ckononov January 7, 2008 1:48 PM PST
Thanks to CBS for noticing this! Remember when this all started and Ron Paul was the only one that was going to bring the troops home?

Listening to the debates last night, I couldn''t believe my ears. It''s like they studied Ron Paul''s speeches to find out why we support him and have changed their "rhetoric" to grab Paul''s supporters. But that will not happen. I didn''t even know what campaign rhetoric was till I looked it up. It''s when candidates will tell you "anything" to get your vote.

Ron Paul doesn''t have "rhetoric." His values, beliefs, and integrity are solid. What he believes is deep in his heart and soul.

I say... Never underestimate the power of the people.
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by ckononov January 7, 2008 1:49 PM PST
Thanks to CBS for noticing this! Remember when this all started and Ron Paul was the only one that was going to bring the troops home?

Listening to the debates last night, I couldn''t believe my ears. It''s like they studied Ron Paul''s speeches to find out why we support him and have changed their "rhetoric" to grab Paul''s supporters. But that will not happen. I didn''t even know what campaign rhetoric was till I looked it up. It''s when candidates will tell you "anything" to get your vote.

Ron Paul doesn''t have "rhetoric." His values, beliefs, and integrity are solid. What he believes is deep in his heart and soul.

I say... Never underestimate the power of the people.
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by xabefromanx-2009 January 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST
I saw him speak on New Years Day in Sergeant Bluff Iowa. He may be repeating some of Ron Paul''s rhetoric but you can bet the farm that he doesn''t really understand it. That day I saw him he told his supporters that if they knew that any of their neighbors were going to caucus for another candidate they should lie to them about when and where the caucuses were to take place. He asked them to shovel snow in their neighbors driveways so they could not get out to the caucus. He even told his supporters to invite their friends to dinner and when they get in the car "throw a baloney sandwich at them and take them to the caucus" against their will. And a week before that he took a news crew on a pheasant hunt and after killing one bird he held it up and said "this is what I am going to do to anyone who does not vote for me." Please remember that this is a man who claims to be a minister asking other Christians to lie, cheat and betray their friends and neighbors. And on top of all of that insanity. When he finally finished his diatribe and was answering questions. He was asked a question by a man who ran a small company on the Nasdaq. The question was about Sarbanes-Oxley compliance and how devastatingly costly compliance is for smaller companies. Huckabee referred that man to the "FairTax." Which as you know if have a brain has nothing to do with SOX compliance. He has no idea about matters of business and economics. And arguably has no inkling about the concept of ethics or morality.
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by xabefromanx-2009 January 7, 2008 1:54 PM PST
I saw him speak on New Years Day in Sergeant Bluff Iowa. He may be repeating some of Ron Paul''s rhetoric but you can bet the farm that he doesn''t really understand it. That day I saw him he told his supporters that if they knew that any of their neighbors were going to caucus for another candidate they should lie to them about when and where the caucuses were to take place. He asked them to shovel snow in their neighbors driveways so they could not get out to the caucus. He even told his supporters to invite their friends to dinner and when they get in the car "throw a baloney sandwich at them and take them to the caucus" against their will. And a week before that he took a news crew on a pheasant hunt and after killing one bird he held it up and said "this is what I am going to do to anyone who does not vote for me." Please remember that this is a man who claims to be a minister asking other Christians to lie, cheat and betray their friends and neighbors. And on top of all of that insanity. When he finally finished his diatribe and was answering questions. He was asked a question by a man who ran a small company on the Nasdaq. The question was about Sarbanes-Oxley compliance and how devastatingly costly compliance is for smaller companies. Huckabee referred that man to the "FairTax." Which as you know if have a brain has nothing to do with SOX compliance. He has no idea about matters of business and economics. And arguably has no inkling about the concept of ethics or morality.
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