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May 23, 2007 9:30 AM

Fark's Drew Curtis On How "News" Isn't News

(Brooks Melchior)
Drew Curtis, founder of Fark.com, has a book coming out on May 31st called "It's Not News, It's Fark: How Mass Media Tries To Pass Off Crap As News." We interviewed him over email.




Brian Montopoli: In printing soft, wacky, and oddball news - or "crap," as you put it in your book title - aren't the media simply giving people what they want? News is a business, after all.

Drew Curtis: Yes, however a lot of what people want isn't news, and we're talking about news sources giving up on their core mission - informing us. Journalism is straying into entertainment. The lines between serious news segments, news entertainment, and news comedy are blurring. For example, just last week CNN led with a story about a nudist colony trying to attract new members with free beer. What is the intrinsic value of delivering this under the guise of news? The problem is a lot of people like to watch videos of nudists with their bits fuzzed out, lots more than the latest body count from Iraq, as was evidenced by CNN.com's Most Popular list.

How can we fix this Afghanistan mess? What's Russia doing in Estonia these days? Is global warming real? Does anyone care? Sadly, few do.
Most people treat the news media like the exercise bike they have in their basement. They're glad it's there but they never use it. This is obviously a ratings problem for the news outlets.

The number one question I get when I meet people who read my website is "Where can I go to get the real news?" The implication is the major news outlets aren't meeting this need. Most people I've talked to are convinced that they're not getting valuable information from news media anymore. I'm not talking about tinfoil-hatters either, these are intelligent people who believe their news media has failed them.

It's not just consumers that are annoyed by this. Journalists themselves are in the same boat. I've met hundreds over the past few years, they're disgruntled and angry because they went into journalism to cover real stories and make a real difference, not waste time discussing drunk Germans getting arrested driving down the street in motorized wheelchairs.

If this is news to any media executives out there, I suggest they hold an all hands on deck meeting and let [reporters] freely express their frustrations. Ask them what they think about the stories they've been asked to cover and the priority that has been given to the stories. They'll get an earful.

Brian Montopoli: You complain about fear mongering in the media, but acknowledge that no one would ever read a book called "Things Are Not All That Bad." If you were running a newscast during a slow news period, what sorts of stories would you put on the air?

Drew Curtis: I have no answer for that. Therein lies the problem, newscasts have to run every day regardless of whether anything is going on or not. They can't just not run when nothing is going on. It would be nice if they could, but that would completely kill ratings. This is why news media isn't entirely at fault for some of the patterns in the book. They have to draw eyeballs AND inform. Sometimes these two goals are at odds.

Brian Montopoli: In the book, you talk about the media's tendency to provide "equal time for nutjobs." Can you give a particularly egregious example?

Drew Curtis: A reporter journeyed to Aurora, a small Texas town, to locate the grave of a supposed alien who crash landed there in 1897. It was a pretty long article, which ends with the statement: "I'm not convinced anyone in Aurora actually believes in the alien." That's right, several hundred words down the page we're told that this entire adventure is a load of crap.

The headline reads "Can a space alien rest in peace?" Anytime you see a headline with a yes/no question like that, the implication is that the fantastic is actually true, but the reality is that it's not. They usually get around to mentioning that right at the end of the story.

You want to know the ones I really dislike? Jesus' face appears on something. I think we can safely say that the vast majority of these sightings are not the result of the interest of a higher power in baked goods or highway overpasses, but instead are instigated by people looking for free advertising to sell things on eBay. I once read an entire article about a couple of trees falling into the shape of a cross in someone's backyard. Yeah, two trees fell on each other and it made an X.

Stop the presses, it must be Jesus.

Brian Montopoli: Why do you think the amount of what you call news "filler" - stories that aren't really news but are presented as such - is increasing?

Drew Curtis: The main problem is the 24 hour news cycle. ESPN has this problem with sports, it's impossible to fill 24 hours with sports programming so they have to resort to things like poker and arm wrestling tournaments. Same goes with news, in a 24 hour cycle the amount of space to fill is vast.

From the advent of radio until the advent of 24 hour news networks, news broadcasts were only a part of the programming. It's possible to fill a half hour broadcast with good quality material. Although it's interesting to note that network evening news programs aren't aired during primetime.

Why? They don't draw the ratings. Unless it's about catching child molesters.

24 hour broadcasts have to stretch limited material to fit 24 hours worth of space. It's even worse on the Internet. Pre-Internet, news was consumed in bulk. When you bought Newsweek you bought the entire magazine. When you watched the CBS "Evening News," you consumed the entire thing (or so Nielsen would have us believe anyhow). On the Internet, news is consumed a la carte. If someone shows up on the main page of a website and doesn't see anything of interest, they leave. This negatively impacts ad revenues. The solution on the Internet is to pack news websites full of things that will draw people in, regardless of whether they are news or not. For example, I used to read Newsweek only for their political cartoon roundup. Previously I counted as a magazine purchase. Now I count as one miniscule pageview, that is when I remember to read it at all.

Go to any news website that shows what the most popular stories are and see what people are reading. It's all crap. This isn't because news media is pushing the content on them, they're voluntarily clicking them. This is what people want. So here's the problem: as a news outlet, do you take a more serious approach to news and thus sacrifice ratings, or do you put more of what people want - non-news? Some outlets have given up all pretense of trying to be news leaders. In print media, they call these Tabloids. What do we call an entire network that used to be news but quit trying a while ago? That word hasn't been invented yet. Although I can think of a few three letter words that fit...

Brian Montopoli: You've identified what you see as the problem with the media. What's the solution?

Drew Curtis: It's not a problem as much as it's a credibility issue. You can't be "The Most Trusted Name in News" and run lead stories on tattooed fish or musical condoms. The problem is if you get rid of those stories, web traffic drops and ratings go down. I personally would like to see a distinct split between hard news and crap. Maybe warn everyone before the newscast that the next half an hour will be about senior citizens posing nude for calendars to raise money for charity, the latest thing Paris Hilton said, or coverage of thousand dollar hamburgers being sold at New York restaurants. That might actually raise ratings and allow people who are interested in real news to save some time. I suggest in the book splitting networks in two, having one be real news and one be fluff news. Then when news breaks, take all the journalists doing fluff news and put them on the real story. I've been since told that isn't possible by journalists, I assume they know better than I do about those kinds of things. I'm not a journalist, I am however a professional media consumer.
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by mattcat25 May 23, 2007 1:00 PM PDT
One as always, must retrieve their news from several different sources to be able to discern factual information from slanted explanations, or overt propaganda.

Today we are immersed in an information overload and undertaking of just how much reporting we can handle. President Bush and the Republican War Party have seemingly won yet another battle to continue their Private Contractor Welfare Project by claiming they're fighting some sort of war with no goals and conclusion. $2 Billion Dollars a week are going unaccounted for down a black hole of Republican Spending, and we the American People are stuck with paying for the war, death, high price of fuel and goods.

The information overload has seen the American People perplexed by the contrary propaganda and stifle of actual facts coming out of Iraq. It's been over 4 years and nothing has been as this Administration has said it was to be. The Administration has even attacked the media for not reporting %u201Cgood news stories%u201D from Iraq but, come to the realization that there aren't any positives, and with this stay the course policy, there never will be.
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by minminmin-2009 May 23, 2007 1:58 PM PDT
Mr. Curtis talks about fluff vs hard news...but I figure that's why most news sites have all those categories of news you can click on, it's like a news smorgasbord. Maybe if I'm sick of reading about the war, I can read about Paris Hilton (although the war seems more appealing).

Mattcat25, that's another subject all together. How do you know what you're reading is the truth or a half-truth or a damned lie? How can we know?
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by cstringe449 May 23, 2007 3:39 PM PDT
ABCNews.com jumped the shark a few weeks ago when they launched their new look. Tabloid trash articles are listed under "Main Headlines". Example: Today "New Beau Best Fit For Recovering Lohan?". Also on the front page: "Must See Photos" with more non news related pictures.
This stuff belongs on the entertainment site ABC.com.
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by taomikael May 23, 2007 5:44 PM PDT
The basic problem is that the media, who once was granted a license from the government to use a particular channel, in exchange for which they had to offer public benefit content, has now become simply a vehicle for selling viewers to advertisers. As such, their only responsibility is ensuring profitability to their owners.

It isn't news, it's (in Robert Butche's apt term) infotainment. It's bait to bring in the marks so that they may be sold as viewers to the advertisers.

In the Newsroom blog, there is an ongoing discussion of what is the key issue in all of this: what is it doing to our country? No one objects to the media making money, but if they aren't going to do the job of keeping the citizens truly informed, who will? Butche writes at http://newsroom.lookie.us/Newsroom-Blog/ about the meaning of the corruption of what once was journalism and is now entertainment masquerading as news.

It's one thing to point at what has happened in the media over the past 25-50 years. You can see a hilarious video at: http://www.jibjab.com/player/main.swf?jid=130841 that shows what news has come to be. But there will be no change until people come to realize what it means, what the deregulation and the profiteering ultimately will bring to us.
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by ronmwanga May 23, 2007 11:43 PM PDT
Oh, ***. You asked him what he would put on the news during a slow news day and he chose not to answer that, the greatest question in the world to ask of a newsgeek? Try: The collapse of Zimbabwe, the race for the Palme d'Or at Cannes, the candidacy of Bill Richardson, Is the US News College Guide a sham? an interview with John Boehner, and, an endpiece by Bill Mahar (Who, incidentally, really ought to be the next Andy Rooney).
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by jburdman7 May 24, 2007 3:57 PM PDT
Attention real news seekers, this newscast barely mentioned Anna Nicole. Check it out:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/newshour_index.html


Is ANYONE with a national voice calling the Real ID act what it truly is, a National ID, except for Ron Paul and the ACLU?

Is ANYONE pointing out the creepy genetic experiments large corporations are performing (Splicing animal genes into plants, and plant genes into animals)? And using plant diseases as marker genes, splicing cauliflower viri into monkeys. And we worry about Bird flu! And cloning! Red herring issues.

Is ANYONE besides Roscoe Bartlett telling the truth that a hydrogen economy may help pollution, but will do NOTHING for our dependence on foreign or fossil fuels.

BORING. And too hard to do a proper setup for, because most people dont have a clue about the fundamentals to each issue to comprehend a discussion of it.


Also the media seems to like to play with stories like a well fed cat plays with a catch. Bat it up, smack it around. Take Bernhard Goetz. The subway vigilante king, until they couldnt sell that story any longer. Then, details the media had for MONTHS became the focus. Multiple shots fired, no permit for the gun. The media beat him back down. He was their play toy.

Barack Obama is headed for that same treatment. Lets see how far we can lift him. Then when we cant sell that any longer - POW!

Wait for it.
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by earthward May 24, 2007 9:34 PM PDT
Why is there no reporting on issues related to public property rights that reveals whether most people think the levels of pollution in our air and water are too high, or about right, or whether the regulators are too strict against industry and should allow more pollution so as to enable more economic growth?

If surveys show that there is not a balance between those who think we are too strict and those who think we are too lenient, then that would be evidence of a failure of the democratic process, (assuming that levels of pollution should be consistent with the will of the people in a democratic society).

Similar questions could be asked regarding rates of taking of natural resources.

Why is there no reporting on issues related to economic externalities, the problems they cause, and the various methods for taking account of them.

John Champagne

Gaia Brain blog: http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com
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by choney2 May 25, 2007 11:45 AM PDT
I agree with the author that we spend to much time reading and watching ***. It is obvious that parents are not even teaching their children the importance of keeping up with current events. America's kids can tell you everything their is about how Anna Nicole died but nothing at all about the War in Irag. They keep up with Paris Hilton, fashion's and who is dating whom but know nothing about global warming or anything that will affect their future. The television to them is only to watch video's and to play their game's on.
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