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May 11, 2007 12:50 PM

CBS News Asks Batiste To Step Down As Consultant

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Last night, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste appeared on MSNBC’s “Countdown With Keith Olbermann.” Batiste has been a CBS News consultant, but last night it was disclosed that he has been asked to leave that position due to his participation in an ad criticizing President Bush. Says Batiste in the ad: "Mr. President, you have placed our nation in peril." You can watch the "Countdown" segment here.

CBS News Vice President, Standards and Special Projects Linda Mason confirmed to me that Batiste was asked to vacate his position.

“When we hire someone as a consultant, we want them to share their expertise with our viewers,” she said. “By putting himself front and center in an anti-Bush ad, the viewer might have the feeling everything he says is anti-Bush. And that doesn’t seem like an analytical approach to the issues we want to discuss.”

She said that Batiste's appearance in the ad marked a violation of CBS News standards, in which “we ask that people not be involved in advocacy.”

Added Mason: “We might still go to the general to ask about things, but not as a consultant to CBS News.”

UPDATE: Mason contacted me this afternoon to expand on her comments.

“General Batiste took part in a commercial that’s being shown on television to raise money for veterans against the war,” she said. “It isn’t just that he took an advocacy position.” She also said that the decision would have been the same had Batiste appeared in a similar ad in support of the president.
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by joycewest May 14, 2007 11:02 AM EDT
Batiste's firing highlights for me the many problems with news organizations hiring experts to supplement news coverage. Are viewers to believe that the expert will function like a traditional journalist, offering analysis without conveying a point of view, taking part in public debate, or advocating for a cause? One can imagine Batiste reasoning, What good is all this expertise and analysis if it can't be put to use, advocating for the cause into which I've put so much thought?
Analysis by its nature expresses a point of view. And it should be obvious to most viewers that hired experts have a point of view. They write books, they make speeches, and if they feel as strongly as Batiste, they will advocate. Meanwhile, their exposure on network news has given them a prominent platform for their work.
I'm not criticizing Batiste for expressing an opinion or raising money for a cause. I just don't see why network news should pay a consultant for analysis when reporters can interview several experts of varying opinions -- not paid for by the network -- and offer viewers more thorough coverage.
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by torocaca May 14, 2007 8:12 AM EDT
More crazy liberals who cannot spell. I only paid $3.59 a gallon today for regular gas. $4 is just crazy talk. ...his low interest rate rate ideology." Posted by mdog666 at 02:11 AM : May 13, 2007
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Crazy liberal who can't spell? Do you always resort to childish name-calling when you don't agree with someone? Is that your idea of a "civil discussion?" Is it a family trait? Is it also a family trait to criticize someone's spelling when your own grammar isn't so perfect? LOL!!! If you're going to be the "grammar police" then you had better be perfect.

$4/gal gas is here, genius. (Are you that naive?) Maybe not in your area but it is in mine and coming to your area by summer. By your calculations it will be 5/gal by next year.

Bush has nothing to do with the $ value falling? Bush's war has everything to do the increased cost of consumables and the cost of travel.

It's Greenspans fault? Leave it to a genius rightie to blame someone else. LOL?? What's your source for Greenspan being a "liberal?" He has never said what he is. He was chosen by Reagan and served both Bushes and Clinton. Three Rep POTUSs think he did a good job. But you don't, and you are the genius so that makes you right. LOL!!

Impending recession? Considering the toll the war has taken, the recession is long overdue. Recession #2 for Bush. But, again, you're the genius.

OBTW, what's the "666" for? LOL!!!
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by down-ndirty May 14, 2007 4:19 AM EDT
More crazy liberals who cannot spell. I only paid $3.59 a gallon today for regular gas. $4 is just crazy talk. ...his low interest rate rate ideology." Posted by mdog666 at 02:11 AM : May 13, 2007
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Crazy liberal who can't spell? (I'm not a liberal.) Do you always resort to childish name-calling when you don't agree with someone? Is that your idea of a "civil discussion?" Is it a family trait? Is it also a family trait to criticize someone's spelling when your own grammar isn't so perfect? LOL!!! If you're going to be the "grammar police" then you had better be perfect.

$4/gal gas is here, genius. (Are you that naive?) Maybe not in your area but it is in mine and coming to your area by summer. By your calculations it will be 5/gal by next year.

Bush has nothing to do with the $ value falling? Bush's war has everything to do the increased cost of consumables and the cost of travel.

It's Greenspans fault? Leave it to a genius rightie to blame someone else. LOL?? What's your source for Greenspan being a "liberal?" He has never said what he is. He was chosen by Reagan and served both Bushes and Clinton. Three righties think he did a good job. But you don't, and you are the genius so that makes you right. LOL!!

Impending recession? Considering the toll the war has taken, the recession is long overdue. Recession #2 for Bush. But, again, you're the genius.

OBTW, what's the "666" for? LOL!!!

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by down-ndirty May 14, 2007 2:52 AM EDT
"More crazy liberals who cannot spell. I only paid $3.59 a gallon today for regular gas. $4 is just crazy talk." Posted by mdog666 at 02:11 AM : May 13, 2007
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...crazy liberals? Do you always resort to childish name-calling when you disagree with someone? Is that a family trait?

$4/gal is crazy talk? LOL!! What you pay for gas is not what everyone else is paying. Are you that naive? I already see $4/gal in my area, and it will be coming to your area soon. Based on your math, genius, maybe sooner. A barrel of oil has doubled in the last six years, and rising fast.

Greenspan a liberal? You know for sure? What's your source? Greenspan was selected by Reagan; also served Bush41, Clinton, and Bush43. Again, what's your source?

An impending recession? A second one for Bush? After he lowered taxes and started a war? What a genius!! Yeah. Greenspan is gone; blame it on him. Righties always think it's the other guy's fault.

OBTW, If you choose to be the grammar police and critique my spelling error, perhaps you should double-check your own grammar before you post your comments. LOL!!
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by down-ndirty May 13, 2007 10:39 PM EDT
"More crazy liberals who cannot spell. I only paid $3.59 a gallon today for regular gas. $4 is just crazy talk." Posted by mdog666 at 02:11 AM : May 13, 2007

Crazy talk? Really? Do you always resort to childish name-calling when you don't agree with someone? Is that a family trait? Like not paying attention?

If you had been paying attention you would know that $4/Gallon gas is here, whether you believe it or not. Maybe it's not in your neighborhood but it's in my neighborhood and it will be in your neighborhood, if not by summer, then by the end of the year. Unless of course, a miracle happens, like all the oil well in Iraq suddenly start pumping.

A barrel of oil was $30 in 2001; dropped down to 20 (very briefly) in 2001; and is now over $60.

You say "...Bush...has increased the price of gas 50 cents a gallon per year for each year they have been in power. So you won't see $4 a gallon till next year." Do the math, genius. Your math makes it a $4/gal "increase" by 2009. LOL!! That looks like over $5/gal in the next 18 months.

Greenspan a liberal? Not likely, plus he's never said what party he's in. Don't know much about Greenspan, do you? Appointed by Reagan; again by Bush41; then Clinton; then Bush43. Now who do you blame? His most successful years were with Clinton.

Is there significance to the "666?" LOL!!
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by mdog666 May 13, 2007 5:11 AM EDT
"How do you likek $4/gallon gas? It doesn't bother the wealthy; they can afford it. In fact, they gain more wealth from it. Look at Exxon-Mobile. LOL!!!

We are a nation of sheep. Stupid sheep!"

More crazy liberals who cannot spell. I only paid $3.59 a gallon today for regular gas. $4 is just crazy talk. The Bush Administration has only increased the price of gas 50 cents a gallon per year for each year they have been in power. So you won't see $4 a gallon till next year.

And really, if you consider the rise in the price of gold and foreign currencies, gas prices really are not that high. Bush Administration policies have nothing to do with the dollar's value falling 40% since he became president.

It's all the fault of liberal Alan Greenspan, who is now going around spreading fear about an impending recession, because of his low interest rate rate ideology.
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by down-ndirty May 12, 2007 4:33 PM EDT
"This is complete hypocrisy. It seems the "liberal media" only wants one side of the story on the public airwaves. No wonder no one watches crappy network news anymore. We know propaganda when we see it." Posted by litzz11 at 05:25 PM : May 11, 2007
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What's wrong with this comment? The "liberal media?" The "liberal media" fired a person criticising a "conservative" war?

This is EXACTLY what's wrong in the U.S. Most people have no clue what's going on.

The "liberal media" as you call it, has been EXTREMELY kind to a conservative president who took this country to war for the sole purpose of protecting the possessions and positions of the wealthly in this country.

How do you likek $4/gallon gas? It doesn't bother the wealthy; they can afford it. In fact, they gain more wealth from it. Look at Exxon-Mobile. LOL!!!

We are a nation of sheep. Stupid sheep!

Boycott CBS!!!



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by torocaca May 12, 2007 4:18 PM EDT
"Looks like the cat is out of the bag...Keith Olbermann is poison, but the looney left keeps drinking it."
Posted by One_American at 02:18 PM : May 11, 2007
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I guess I'd rather be a "looney left" than a "lemming right." LOL!!!

Olbermann gets it right far more often than the "fair and balanced" FOX network.
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by bigbearvo May 12, 2007 3:12 PM EDT
The producers and execs at CBS news who approved the continued "consultant" status of General Batiste knew full well his strong opinions, and if fact had hired him to specifically to express those opinions. His appearance in the VoteVets ad only increases his credibility in that he has demonstrating an extreme level of courage in speaking out against the incompetent and criminal acts of his government. CBS has revealed its hypocrisy in firing him, and its sadly deteriorating status as a truly independent news organization willing to speak truth to power. CBS has violated the spirit of free speech, which is, of course, one of the founding pillars of a free press in a free society, by punishing General Batiste for exercising his rights as an American, rights he fought hard for as a dedicated member of our Armed Forces. You have fallen far CBS, and your news division has lost far more credibility in this one act than General Batiste ever will.

You have a responsibility, CBS. Live up to it. Americans are watching, and when they've had enough, they will find the truth elsewhere.
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by memekiller May 12, 2007 2:08 PM EDT
Opinion journalists like Dobbs make stuff up to make their point, and objective journalists can't say what they believe. So, which journalists and analysts call it as they see it?
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by May 12, 2007 11:27 AM EDT


So apparently, CBS only fires those who advocate for the health of veterans, if that causes the administration some discomfort because of their failure to provide promised health care to returning veterans. It is okay to advocate and cheerlead and flog the pro-Administration "surge" position, which results in MORE killed and injured soldiers, who in turn will fail to receive decent health care.

CBS didn't like Batiste's message. CBS fired Batiste because his message was not pro-Administration. CBS has not fired anyone for pro-Administration advocacy nor for advocating and cheerleading FOR contuing the war.

CBS has an anchor who provides a national platform of advocacy to rightwing zealots like Rush Limbaugh, who also has a "Free Speech" platform on CBS radio three hours per day, but they refuse to allow a rebuttal.

CBS sponsors and promotes rightwing hate radio which broadcasts racist hate propaganda and advocacy nationally. Imus, Savage, Bennett, Harley Karnes, Opie and Anthony.

Well, this took CBS News credibility down yet another notch. I doubt you will recover your lost credibility for many years, if ever.

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by scristanti May 12, 2007 7:49 AM EDT
what's the matter with you liberal, I think CBS for once did the right thing, its not enough that all of CBS reports against the war for you people commenting here, always reporting on the liberal side, how can someone who comes out in a commercial ad totally against BUSH and the war be a unbiased commentator, all you people I know you hate BUSH and this war, but they did the right thing, and by all these comments here, I made my case on who watches cbs and probably cnn, abc, msnbc and nbc.
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by markleiman May 12, 2007 6:11 AM EDT
How about Lou Dobbs? He's not just an advocate, he's a dishonest advocate, as your own Lesley Stahl proved. When Stahl confronted Dobbs with the fact that his "7000 cases of leprosy in the last three years" was really 7000 cases over thirty years, he just insisted that if he had said it, it must be true. But the claim was borrowed from an article in a junk-science journal, and official statistics show that Dobbs was wrong. To err is human; to insist on error is unprofessional.
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by gejo3 May 12, 2007 2:16 AM EDT
Hello? Is Rupert Murdoch there? I guess he must be.
What in the world is going on at CBS? Firing a general for supporting an organization that helpd war veterans get elected. Shame on you!
I guess it is time to wipe CBS out of my channel memory.

Bye-bye CBS.
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by rlgardner May 11, 2007 10:35 PM EDT
So incredibly sad, so entirely predictable! CBS once again shows us the face of utter hypocrisy. Retired General John Batiste takes a couragous stand, gets fired for it, CBS claims it's written policy made the firing necessary, the blogs find out that Michael O'Hanlon has written for the Washington Post in favor of the "surge" and that Nicole Wallace has editorialized in favor of John McCain. Both of them remain as CBS on-air analysts. Neither one ever complained that CBS had ever given the slightest trouble.
Why is it only advocates who agree with the American public and are against the President that find themselves punished by advocacy policies?
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by adidas771 May 11, 2007 10:21 PM EDT
Hello people at CBS, Batiste is an honest man who added a needed viewpoint on your telecast. When all of your reports advance the same position that is propaganda. You need Batiste and by firing him with your transparent lies you have once again chosen to be irrelevant. Remember Baghdad Bob? Nobody believes you either.
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by henryftp May 11, 2007 10:01 PM EDT
I guess CBS has removed all traces of the news division that created the standard in television news under the aegis of Fred Friendly, Ed Murrow, *** Salant and Walter Cronkite. It's reasonably clear that "Harvest of Shame" would never have been aired under the current regime at CBS, much less Ed Murrow's exposi of Senator Joseph McCarthy.

You have subjected your viewers to years of your on-air "consultants" cheerleading a war that has created the worst foreign policy catastrophe in our history, including Michael O'Hanlon and Fouad Ajami, who have been taking "advocacy" positions in favor of the Bush administration's "surge". Your summary termination of General Batiste is a craven act of obsequious submission to power, completely at odds with the role of a free press in our republic. Government-owned television networks such as the BBC have more respect for their public trust.

How Orwellian to see that your notion of "an analytical approach to the issues we want to discuss" only precludes your analysts from taking a public position opposed to that of the administration in power.

And yet you wonder why you're losing your audience (and what's left of your credibility).
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by gable720 May 11, 2007 9:39 PM EDT
I guess as long as Batiste spoke only of a 'positive war,' he would have a job. But, when he speaks as a soldier on behalf of soldiers, as a private citizen, he needs to go? Obviously, your network feels a conflict of interest on Batiste's part: He's just not being a Team Bush player! The veil over this story is so thin as to approach ridiculousness and CBS needs to get its act together, for you have virtually no credibility left. Some may have been asleep at the wheel over the last 6 years, but some, believe it or not, are awakening and smelling the coffee and, guess what, it's burnt.
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by rochest May 11, 2007 9:33 PM EDT
we must have the free Press to survive as a democracy this firing is wrong for many many reasons that have been ... pointed out pass posts this controversy is growing and I just want to say the corporate media is really showing its allegiance to the mighty dollar. this happened with Dan Rather and the swift boaters.
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by exile8 May 11, 2007 9:14 PM EDT
This isn't going to go away. We need a straight answer from CBS about why Batiste was fired. The commercial was not a fund-raising commercial. It was an advocacy commercial.

How is that different from writing advocacy op-eds for the Washington Post?

We need an answer.
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