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April 17, 2007 10:38 AM

AAJA Says To Avoid Racial Identifiers In Virginia Tech Coverage

(AP Photo/Casey Templeton)
The Asian American Journalist Association is calling on news outlets "to avoid using racial identifiers unless there is a compelling or germane reason" when identifying the Virginia Tech suspect.

Says the Association: "There is no evidence at this early point that the race or ethnicity of the suspected gunman has anything to do with the incident, and to include such mention serves only to unfairly portray an entire people. The effect of mentioning race can be powerfully harmful. It can subject people to unfair treatment based simply on skin color and heritage."

We now know the suspect was 23-year-old Tech senior Cho Seung-Hui, who yesterday was being identified only as a "young Asian male." In a press release, CBS News initially referred to him as Sueng-hui Cho. The discrepancy comes from the fact that Korean surnames are listed first, while in America they appear at the end of a name. CBS News is now referring to the suspect as Cho Seung-Hui, which follows the Korean tradition.
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by asian866 April 20, 2007 9:12 AM EDT
AAJA, as an Asian-American, I am somewhat ashamed of your reaction. I do not mean to be disrespectful, but the real tragedy here is that 32 innocent lives were stolen -not that the killer was identified as a South Korean student. Sure, the media could have been more PC by acknowledging the fact that Cho was a resident here since childhood and that makes him just as American as everyone else -BUT aren't you being a little too sensitive? You've been too quick to defend yourselves and now you just look silly. Your accusations are unfounded. You've assigned bad motives, when the truth is that the majority of non-Asians are intelligent enough to recognize that the race factor isn't really what's important in the big picture of this tragedy.
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by drgnhtny April 20, 2007 6:58 AM EDT
vmcgrew said :
"The "leaders" of the African American "Community" were jumping on the fact that the women of the Rutgers Basketball Team were "African American" and the perpetrator of the reprehensible crime was "White". He's not called "Caucasian American" and they black. He's "White" and they're "African Americans"."

The fact is that not everyone in the Rutgers team was African American. There were two Caucasians on the team as well, #21 HEATHER ZURICH and #12 KATIE ADAMS.
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by HelloDearling April 20, 2007 4:44 AM EDT
for those hateful comments, you obviously don't understand the full effects of the situation right now. just because you live in an area where racism apparently doesn't exists or something, doesn't give you the right to pretend you know it all.

you don't.

and i'm not wasting my time to provide "examples" on how racism has actually happened. use your own imagination.
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by deejaykuruma April 19, 2007 8:07 PM EDT
Please give me the last time you saw a journalist working for a huge media company actually just state the facts. 75% of the nation is spoon fed their opinions by journalist. Mentioning anything about South Korea or Asian really is irrelevant. Did you think he was black, with a name like that? If I saw the name, I would of already knew he was Korean. How about we educate ourselves to know where certain names come from? We expect it all on a plate. The media decides to go as far back to the city in South Korea he lived in. The AAJA is not trying to get fame, like everyone else said if you were in LA seeing Koreans in front of their stores with SHOTGUNS you would see why they are trying to prevent it, and there are supposedly reports of a backlash in certain communities. If you're saying AAJA doesn't care about the family, ask about those who think resorting to violence and vulgar words(ala facebook) towards his ethnic people, do THEY really care? Obviously not enough to educate themselves with the straight facts.
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by patrick404 April 19, 2007 5:14 AM EDT
You shouldn't generalize an entire group of people.
Japan and Germany are not the same countries that they once were in WWII. The former waged a brutal war in mainland China. The latter will always be remembered for the Holocaust. Both were severly punished for their actions. The first received the atom bomb. The second received harsh treatment from invading Soviet armies, many young German girls and women were raped by Soviet soldiers.

Japan and Germany today are not like the warlike nations they once were.

During WWII most American fighting men did not hate the Germans as a group. The perception being that Germany was led by a couple of rotten apples known as the Nazis leadership. However, the same view was not held towards the Japanese. The whole nation of Japan was regarded as vermin worthy of extermination.

A good example is the interment of Japanese-Americans. Many Japanese-Americans, aka Nisei fought in the U.S. Army in Europe with extradionary bravery and distinction.

Does the Tuskgee airmen sound familar? Afican-American fliers in their P-51 Mustangs never lost a B-17 or B-24 bomber under their watch from German fighters. Are all black men like the Tuskgee airmen cowardly sexual deviants?

Are all Arab Muslims living in America suicide bombers?

The negative fall back due to the ethnicity of the VT murders is that all Asians, particularly Koreans are prone to murderous tendencies.
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by patrick404 April 18, 2007 4:39 AM EDT
I recall when the federal building in Oklahoma was bombed, not so very civil jokes that make the remarks made by Imus about the Rutgers Women's basketball team seem mild regarding Muslims and Arabs. When it was revealed that a white guy, Timothy McVeigh did it, no jokes about him were made.

The fact that the shooter was an Asian puts into perspective how people of Arab/Muslim background must have felt post-911. I fear that the sorrow and grief will give away to vengeance. What he did was inexcusable and unjustifiable. Taking so many lives that could not defend themselves was a cowardly act. No different from the suicide bombers of 9-11 and in Iraq/Afghanistan.

I wished that the killer were a white guy, liked Tim McVeigh. The public and media seem to be more tolerant of a Caucasian mass murderer than a non-white.
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by joyo8729 April 18, 2007 2:54 AM EDT
I am Korean-American. This is a day of profound horror and sadness, and it's also a day of great shame for me. Having read Cho's psychotic writing sample, I'm certain that he harbored a deep hatred for Americans. Back when I lived in Seoul, anti-American sentiments often found a sympathetic audience in the form of plays and fiction. The villains always represented America. The victims always represented the struggling Korean masses. Many of these works of art were instigated by communists or angry lowlifes. Cho was of this breed of cowardly losers who don't have the courage nor the intelligence to articulate an opinion about the society in which they live. He simply brewed in his own madness and suicidal rage until it dragged him down to damnation. This began as a hate crime against America, but it ended as a hate crime against humanity. The likes of him deserve no mercy.
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by joyo8729 April 18, 2007 2:50 AM EDT
I am Korean-American. This is a day of profound horror and sadness, and it's also a day of great shame for me. Having read Cho's psychotic writing sample, I'm certain that he harbored a deep hatred for Americans. Back when I lived in Seoul, anti-American sentiments often found a sympathetic audience in the form of plays and fiction. The villains always represented America. The victims always represented the struggling Korean masses. Many of these works of art were instigated by communists or angry lowlifes. Cho was of this breed of cowardly losers who don't have the courage nor the intelligence to articulate an opinion about the society in which they live. He simply brewed in his own madness and suicidal rage until it dragged him down to damnation. This began as a hate crime against America, but it ended as a hate crime against humanity. The likes of him deserve no mercy.
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by joyo8729 April 18, 2007 2:47 AM EDT
I am Korean-American. This is a day of profound horror and sadness, and it's also a day of great shame for me. Having read Cho's psychotic writing sample, I'm certain that he harbored a deep hatred for Americans. Back when I lived in Seoul, anti-American sentiments often found a sympathetic audience in the form of plays and fiction. The villains always represented America. The victims always represented the struggling Korean masses. Many of these works of art were instigated by communists or angry lowlifes. Cho was of this breed of cowardly losers who don't have the courage nor the intelligence to articulate an opinion about the society in which they live. He simply brewed in his own madness and suicidal rage until it dragged him down to damnation. This began as a hate crime against America, but it ended as a hate crime against humanity. The likes of him deserve no mercy.
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by ronmwanga April 18, 2007 1:44 AM EDT
Just reporting the name should be enough. I've never understood why the race needs to be identified if the perp has already been caught, or killed and the case is closed. Of course this brings us back -- with a neat little rhetorical flip -- to the Duke accuser. Should her name be used? If she is mentally unstable? To this day I wonder about that. But if she is indeed mentally unstable and not -- as she very well might be -- criminally malicious -- then her image ought not to have been used on "60 Minutes." And since the Attorney general has opted for not filing criminal charges and going so far as to hint that it was because mainly of mental issues, I think "60 Minutes" went a bit far in using the image and not stopping at mentioning her name. But then again, last Sunday's "60 Minutes" was one hell of a delicate razors edge of racial sensibilities to juggle. I don't envy the Executive Producer. ... Well, maybe just a little.
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by phoenixandy April 18, 2007 12:09 AM EDT
Speaking as an Asian-American, I fear for my life that I will be murdered by racist whites in revenge for what happened at Virginia Tech. I will hold the MSM, including CBS News, but especially Fox News, responsible should anything happen to me.
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by jburdman7 April 17, 2007 9:48 PM EDT
IRRELEVANT INFO
"There is no evidence at this early point that the race or ethnicity of the suspected gunman has anything to do with the incident"... so do not report it, is the logic here.

Does his age have anything to do with this? If he was old, offending other oldsters, compelling America to believe all oldsters are potential killers?

If he was young, offending youngsters, by compelling America to believe all youngsters are potential killers.

Stop showing his picture as well. His looks are irrelevant. His name has nothing to do with the incident. It is not Mohammad. So please stop reporting that. Insert short, Korean, Asian, black haired.

Thank you AAJA for reminding me that this incident is entirely irrelevant and has virtually nothing to do with my life. We can stop reporting anything about it now.

*Click*
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by musing2cents April 17, 2007 9:41 PM EDT
Since there are ignorant and racist people in the world, the media should ignore the important principle of distributing information. This is what I have learned from blahblahbla5 and vbnvbn. Under their theory, the press should not have identified Giovanni Torrio, Al Capone, Frank Nitti and other Italian mobsters as Italian or Southern European because Italians were being lynched prior (and during) their crime spree. Farfetched, but that's what they are asking. So stop being silly and grow up. Adults can deal with the facts, whether they are positive or negative.

As for being a hypocrite, can you explain how I am one? Is it my race, ***, etc? If so, how do you know it since I have not stated it anywhere. This sounds like nothing more than name calling to me. (Can't win with facts, call someone a name.)

Again, my main point is that journalism has a principle to give the public facts, not surpress facts.
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by inotssorg April 17, 2007 9:33 PM EDT
My son was a "person of interest", no, a "suspect" in an on-campus incident. According to the newspaper reports, the local police described him as an " angry, deranged, white male". The person who confessed to and committed the crime was an African American. My son continues to suffer from post traumatic stress resulting from all that he was subjected to during those days before the FACTS were made known.
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by jburdman7 April 17, 2007 9:24 PM EDT
MISUNDERSTOOD ASSOCIATIONS
There is a point to be made about the mis-association of facts. But it is not 'Asian' to 'killers'. Take the association of the term "Semi-automatic" to "evil device". Shootings are invariably done with Semi-automatic guns. So when they are mentioned, Semi autos take on an air of evil. Did you know the revolvers from the wild west are "Semi-automatic?" Ban Semi-automatic" guns and you are literally banning guns post 1860. People asking for bans on Semis do not know anything about guns. Would you like to defend yourself with a single shot musket? The powers that be have no interest in correcting this misunderstanding because this error will help our rulers ban Semi autos in the future.

If you were in that building being shot at, you would have been happy for me to come along with my semi automatic .38. And this Cho fellow would have gotten a slug put in him, not because he was Asian, Korean, young, or any of this nonsense. He would have been stopped because he needed stopped. And you would be happy the gun was post 1860.
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by blahblahbla5 April 17, 2007 8:22 PM EDT
There are plenty of white supremacists, ignorant black racists, xenophobic people in this country to make it worthwhile not to fan the racial flame.

Remember how Koreans were scapegoated during LA riots by blacks?

AAJA is doing everything they can to prevent even one incident of racial backlash which ironically usually comes from other minorities. I've already heard blacks talk about "go back home" and all that bigoted bs.

Why don't you put up an Asian Male mask and walk around remote part of Virginia and see how safe you feel you hypocrits.
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by vmcgrew-2009 April 17, 2007 6:39 PM EDT
Regarding the AAJA not wanting to have the race of the Virginia Tech MURDERER defined. Would they have a problem if the shooter was "African American" or "Hispanic" or "Caucasian"? Probably not. They didn't weigh in on the Don Imus affair either. The "leaders" of the African American "Community" were jumping on the fact that the women of the Rutgers Basketball Team were "African American" and the perpetrator of the reprehensible crime was "White". He's not called "Caucasian American" and they black. He's "White" and they're "African Americans". Does anyone see the distinction? And, if no one had identified the shooter as "Asian", what exactly was everyone supposed to be on the lookout for? Suspicious characters? Huh? Musing2cents is right on target stating that here is a journalist organization that advocates suppressing information about a suspect that certainly qualifies as "news". Sadly, it's the act that's tragic. It's the lives lost and their families we should focus on, not what the AAJA wants. Shame on them for wanting to "pretty up" the news. It was a solitary act, not something "the people" did. Most of us are intelligent enough to see that.
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by musing2cents April 17, 2007 5:58 PM EDT
So the Asian American Journalist Association doesn't want the public to know certain information. Gee, I always thought that the purpose of journalism is to give the public more information, not surpress information. It's nice to see that today's journalist act on an agenda to surpress facts when they do not like them. I wonder how often this happens...
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by cmp271 April 17, 2007 5:38 PM EDT
RACE?? He is of another race? With a name like that I thought he was European!!

It is his culture that bred this, not race. Where is Al Sharpton to clarify this??
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by alderene April 17, 2007 4:44 PM EDT
Yes, AAJA is correct. No one would have ever suspected that Cho Seung-Hui was Asian if the press hadn't told us he was.
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