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October 3, 2006 4:20 PM

Strong Commentary On School Violence But A Little Off Topic

Judging from the e-mails we’ve received, many of the comments over at the Couric & Co., blog and the comments left at CBSNews.com, yesterday’s “freeSpeech” segment on the “Evening News” has raised the ire of plenty of viewers. The segment featured Brian Rohrbough, the father of one of the students killed at Columbine High School in 1999, addressing the recent school shootings in Pennsylvania and Colorado. You can watch the commentary by clicking on the image to the left or read the transcript here. Here is part of what’s drawing the most criticism, from Rohrbough:
This country is in a moral free-fall. For over two generations, the public school system has taught in a moral vacuum, expelling God from the school and from the government, replacing him with evolution, where the strong kill the weak, without moral consequences and life has no inherent value.

We teach there are no absolutes, no right or wrong. And I assure you the murder of innocent children is always wrong, including by abortion. Abortion has diminished the value of children.
Here are some of the comments that have landed in our in-box – William R. says:
It is sad to see CBS pander to the extreme right wing. The network that brought us Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite has now become a cheap imitation of Fox (false) news.
Barbara R. was also disappointed:
We have been CBS evening news watchers for many years, but tonight was the last night I will ever watch the news on CBS.

What in the world was Couric thinking of when she had the Columbine parent on Free Speech? He blamed the lack of religious teachings in school, Darwin and abortion rights for the murderous rampages in Colorado and Pennsylvania.
Ed B. said:
Obviously this gentleman has lived through a parent's worst nightmare and today's events surely brought back terrible memories. What I found offensive however is the CBS News choice to present his highly personal views to a wide national audience with no opportunity for an alternate voice to be heard. While I may agree with some of his thoughts, others are completely absurd and would surely lead this country back to the Middle Ages. You gave this individual an uncritical platform to demonize activities such as the teaching of evolution. Can this argument also be extended to the convicted pedophiles of the Catholic clergy? I hope in the future you will be more discriminating when inviting comments from the public to be used in the Evening News.
Derrick G. sees too many conservative voices on the segment as a whole:
This is a noble effort, the segment on “freeSpeech;” it could lead to a rejuvenation of our public airwaves by creating a 21st century public commons, another platform for our citizens to converse with one another. You will add nothing but poison to the well if you continue to allow only the voices of the right-wing polemics to be aired to the nation.

If you cannot find voices that seek to unite us as a nation - voices who will re-engender that feeling of One People that we all felt on 12 September 2001 - then you should cancel this program. We have plenty of divisive voices speaking past one another.
Click through the links above if you would like to see what others are saying. On her blog, CBS anchor Katie Couric addressed the criticism:
We knew when we decided to put on this segment that a lot of people would disagree with it. We also knew some might even find it repugnant. (Some of you made that point loud and clear!)

But that is the very essence of what we’re try to do with the “freeSpeech” segment. This is a platform for our viewers to hear from a wide range of people – those who may share your views, and those who don’t.
And in an e-mail to PE, “Evening News” executive producer Rome Hartman explained how this particular “freeSpeech” came about:
In the hours after the tragic school shooting in Pennsylvania, we asked Brian Rohrbough, whose son was murdered in 1999 at Columbine High School, if he had any thoughts or reaction he might want to share with our viewers to the shootings at the Amish school. We imagined that his perspective, as a parent who lost a son in a school shooting, might make a very valuable ‘freeSpeech’ perspective for last night. He agreed, put his thoughts on paper, and drove to our Denver affiliate to deliver them on camera.

When I saw what Mr. Rohrbough meant to say, I was surprised. I’m not sure what I expected him to think or feel or say, but this wasn’t it. Of course I knew that his remarks would be controversial, perhaps even offensive to some. I also knew that some people in our audience would agree with him. I also thought to myself, “This is ‘freeSpeech.’ We don’t tell people what to say or what to think. We DO tell people that we won’t run personal attacks or comments that are patently, demonstrably false.” I decided to run the segment.
So, was this particular commentary out of bounds? I actually found it to be exactly the type of commentary in general that makes me want to see the segment continue and thrive. But there is a very legitimate criticism of this particular episode, an issue of relevance.

Because both recent school shootings involved an outside adult and not students, whether or not our educational system is creating a moral vacuum seemed out of place and creates confusion about just what the immediate issue is. I would certainly rather have that disconnect than have something perfectly scripted written for someone instead of their genuine thoughts. But this was an unfortunate case of mixing apples and oranges in my opinion.

The other criticism being leveled is at the segment in general. Many commenters upset with the content of the commentary feel that the conservative viewpoint is favored over others. Much of that depends on where one sits on the ideological fence of course. There have been conservative like Rush Limbaugh and Rudy Giuliani (although I could find plenty of conservatives who don’t claim the former New York Mayor) featured, but there have also been some pretty liberal commentaries as well, especially on the issue of immigration. You can see all the segments here and make up your own minds. But keep some perspective, there have only been 20 of them to date and it’s much too early to declare a widespread lack of balance. Give it a few more months and judge the whole body of work.

My personal take, for what it’s worth, is that Mr. Rohrbough’s commentary was the kind of strong opinion that makes “freeSpeech” worth running every night. Then again, I like being challenged to think, and I especially enjoy being forced to defend my own thoughts, beliefs and assumptions and I’m not threatened by someone who doesn’t agree with my personal ideological checklist. And I find it fascinating that the reader who lauds Murrow (who took on Joe McCarthy) and Cronkite (who took on the Vietnam war) sees no inconsistency in complaining about “freeSpeech.” But you’re free to disagree with me.
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by linbauhi October 6, 2006 7:37 PM EDT
Your producers comments did little to calm my concerns about "FreeSpeech" ("I was a bit surprised")that I expressed in an earlier email. (in fact within seconds of the horrifically inappropriate comments by Mr. Rohrbough on the Amish massacre.)
I have access to inane comments 24 hours a day via cable news. I don't wish to hear it on a program that has traditionally been the bedrock of unbiased thoughtful news coming into American homes every night. Former CBS presenters must be rolling in their graves.
If FreeSpeech is so important to the network create another program. I personally don't wish to waste my time hearing personal comments on important news during this period. The joke is the murderer was a "good christian" and committed the murder while his wife was at a church meeting. I bet the murderer didn't believe in abortion! And yea, when is ANYONE going to mention the insanity of a country that allows a citizen to have these weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Ooops wouldn't want to upset the NRA!
Sorry Katie, I can't stay with you as long as your are forced (I presume by your producers) to waste time on this insulting segment--no matter whether or not I agree with the comments.
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by linbauhi October 6, 2006 7:34 PM EDT
Your producers comments did little to calm my concerns about "FreeSpeech" ("I was a bit surprised")that I expressed in an earlier email. (in fact within seconds of the horrifically inappropriate comments by Mr. Rohrbough on the Amish massacre.)
I have access to inane comments 24 hours a day via cable news. I don't wish to hear it on a program that has traditionally been the bedrock of unbiased thoughtful news coming into American homes every night. Former CBS presenters must be rolling in their graves.
If FreeSpeech is so important to the network create another program. I personally don't wish to waste my time hearing personal comments on important news during this period. The joke is the murderer was a "good christian" and committed the murder while his wife was at a church meeting. I bet the murderer didn't believe in abortion! And yea, when is ANYONE going to mention the insanity of a country that allows a citizen to have these weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Ooops wouldn't want to upset the NRA!
Sorry Katie, I can't stay with you as long as your are forced (I presume by your producers) to waste time on this insulting segment--no matter whether or not I agree with the comments.
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by linbauhi October 6, 2006 7:34 PM EDT
Your producers comments did little to calm my concerns about "FreeSpeech" ("I was a bit surprised")that I expressed in an earlier email. (in fact within seconds of the horrifically inappropriate comments by Mr. Rohrbough on the Amish massacre.)
I have access to inane comments 24 hours a day via cable news. I don't wish to hear it on a program that has traditionally been the bedrock of unbiased thoughtful news coming into American homes every night. Former CBS presenters must be rolling in their graves.
If FreeSpeech is so important to the network create another program. I personally don't wish to waste my time hearing personal comments on important news during this period. The joke is the murderer was a "good christian" and committed the murder while his wife was at a church meeting. I bet the murderer didn't believe in abortion! And yea, when is ANYONE going to mention the insanity of a country that allows a citizen to have these weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Ooops wouldn't want to upset the NRA!
Sorry Katie, I can't stay with you as long as your are forced (I presume by your producers) to waste time on this insulting segment--no matter whether or not I agree with the comments.
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by amusedmuse October 6, 2006 6:59 PM EDT
It turns out that the school shooter was a home-schooled Christian.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20521572-601,00.html

Explain to me again how solid science (evolution) in our schools is at "fault."

I reiterate: opinions are not facts, and no amount of "tolerance" makes them facts.
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by gaxandy October 5, 2006 4:42 PM EDT
As a practicing Unitarian Universalist I am taught to be tolerent of everyones right to speak their peace. That said, I found Mr.Rohrboughs response to a tragic situation to be "blaming the victums" at the least and politically exploitive at the most. Reaching out to others and offering the balm of human kindness would have been far better.
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by antonriviera October 5, 2006 4:11 PM EDT
Would CBS have given the platform to a gun control advocate to say 'the one undeniable thread that ties school shootings together is guns'? Will it be contacting Nobel Prize winners to talk about the impact of creationism on school science teaching?

Mr Rohrbough is entitled to his grief and his opinion, and CBS appears to be happy to wall off a segment of its broadcast where contributors are entitled to their own facts.

"Could it be that in reality the majority of Americans would strongly agree with Mr. Rohrbough?"

Could it be that in reality the majority of Americans think his views are shockingly misinformed and totally out of the mainstream? If you're going to ask loaded questions without anything to back up their implication... well, I suppose there's a place on 'FreeSpeech' for you.
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by amusedmuse October 5, 2006 2:21 PM EDT
People who are complaining about the %u201Cintolerance of the left%u201D are missing the point. Yes, we have freedom of speech in this country, but no one has the right to claim that his/her opinion is indeed fact. That leads to madness. In addition, the media have a responsibility and a duty to place such %u201Cstrong ideas%u201D in the context of cognitive authority. That means that the media must be more informed than the public that it is informing, and that it must not portray any supposed %u201Ccontroversy%u201D in a manner that is deliberately misleading and/or agenda-driven (e.g., the %u201Cevolution versus creationism%u201D debate as if creationism has equal legitimacy in terms of scientific evidence, when it certainly does not).

Third, I think that it is a shameful display to parade obviously distraught victims who have highly subjective views before the nation as if they are %u201Cexperts.%u201D I realize that it is popular to denigrate those with true expertise as being %u201Celitist%u201D and to champion the average television viewer as somehow more educated than educated people, but everyone needs to realize that there is no institution more hierarchical and elitist than the few who sit at the top of the mass media pyramid. In the context of this, %u201Cfree speech%u201D segments become mere circus tricks. It is revolting and exploitative.
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by libbyfisher October 5, 2006 2:09 PM EDT
KUDOS to Brian Rohrbough! I appreciate your willingness to share your beliefs and opinions in this liberal format. You have the RIGHT to do so! In addition my sympathies go out to you for your loss. We have no idea what you have experienced. I live right down the road from this Amish massacre and can only imagine what pain like this feels like. I am a mother and a public school teacher and am becoming increasingly scared for my daughter's safety, for my safety, and for the safety of my students. Something has to be done, and it absolutely begins with examining the moral fiber of our nation.
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by scotgray-2009 October 5, 2006 1:41 PM EDT
Kudos for CBS allowing a conservative voice to be heard. It is good for us all to hear views from the left and the right. We should be mature enough to hear both sides and render our own opinions. It says a lot about from anyone from either side that is unwilling to hear the opposing voice to be heard.
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by bemidjiite October 5, 2006 9:53 AM EDT
I am glad to see this discussion happening. Whether we individually agree or disagree with Brian Rohrbough's comments, as a society we desperately need to address the increase in violence, esp. in our schools. Since the trend is in the wrong direction, we ought to be open to hear criticism of our culture's direction.
I happen to agree with much of what Brian said, and I am not Republican (I vote Democrat more times than Republican), nor am I religious right (on most issues I would be labeled moderate to liberal). But I am concerned that moral relativism has led to moral decline inour country. This trend is not just evident in school violence. But perhaps our children are the canary in the mindshaft, waking us up to a trend that could eventually suffocate us all.
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by bigcj55 October 5, 2006 2:34 AM EDT
Religious hysterics, give me a break..
Mr. Rohrbough spoke with eyes wide open
from the heart.
Wake up America the emperor has no clothes
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by pastortimlfc October 5, 2006 1:58 AM EDT
People on the left are always claiming to be the open minded tolerance champions. However, judging by the typical reaction to Brian Rohrbough's comments, it is all too obvious how intolerant this camp is. This is not simply a matter of their disagreement with the man's opinion, but in their view ALL disenting voices must be silenced, and kept from the public. What are they so afraid of? Could it be that in reality the majority of Americans would strongly agree with Mr. Rohrbough? Free speech means just that. Free speech for all, not just those we agree with. Thank you CBS for having the guts to actually allow something other than the typical far left sound bites we have become so use to hearing from network news.
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by harrosetim October 5, 2006 12:30 AM EDT
Those who found "free speach" to be repulsive somehow fail to hear the real message. The facts are undeniable: Our country is in a moral free fall. Period. The lack of respect for human life, corporate and individual greed, selfish power plays by elected officials, loss of focus by clergy and church leaders, absence of family values depriving children of the nurturing required in their formative years, disregard of the stupidity of drug usage and alcohol mis-use are just a few of the signs of moral degredation. What does religion have to say? No one can deny that HONEST religion that recognizes a God who requests his followers to persue a life of love and caring concern for others is the antithisis of what we have described above. Who can deny that the Amish are a demonstration of what peace and forgiving love is all about.
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by calgaryrob October 4, 2006 11:35 PM EDT
Mr. Rohrbough's comments were 100% right on, and I'm an atheist.

Anyone who would find his comments "repugnant" is clearly part of the problem.

Yet again, we get a clear example of how the left's TOLERANCE and love of DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT is a one way street. Echo their viewpoints and they are tolerant, say something differant and the hate machine springs into overdrive.

The modern left is toxic to modern democracies.
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by hgals-2009 October 4, 2006 11:22 PM EDT
Why can't cbs understand there is a huge conservative population in our country. We want the news reported straight forward and no sneaky questions to prompt a certain political response. This man was speaking from his heart and represents a huge population who agree with him. Your staff should repond to him like he said something wrong. Please give both political sides a fair chance. I might watch your news program and website more often.

Thank You

Gold
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by keeler2003 October 4, 2006 11:17 PM EDT
I am totally amazed as I look through the comments posted here, how totally intollerant the 'supposed' tolerant left is. I guess they are tolerant as long as it goes along with their views.

Look in the mirror before you start critisizing!
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by skeezix06 October 4, 2006 9:52 PM EDT
When I come home from work, I want news backed up by commentary from experts in the field so that I can learn something new. It's that simple.

Its also NOT what I've been seeing since Schieffer left. You should bring him back.

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by dluxxed October 4, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
I appreciated Brian Rohrbough's comments. The reality of our world suddenly looks very different from the perspective of a parent who's lost a child to senseless violence. I believe that taking an honest look at where we're at and where we've come from is important.
As a leading edge baby boomer(born in 47' and working in radio since 1973), I've lived out most of my adult life watching how life has changed in America...fact is, our nation is deeply divided into two significant camps;those who believe in God and those who don't.
The difference between the two camps is signifcant. One believes in right and wrong, based on a moral code, the other has a much broader spectrum of consideration, but with a serious flaw, that being "relative values".
Relative to what? There has to be a plumb line somewhere. If you want solid construction of anything from a building to a human life, that plumb line has to be based on truth...not "your truth" and "my truth". Truth does not contradict itself...if it does, it's not truth. Popular culture's best efforts at satisfying the needs of human beings just isn't cutting it. Entertainment,internet, cell phones, clothes, sports, activites, drugs, ***, and alcohol don't make the grade.
Fact is, kids need parents to protect, provide for them, love, and nurture them....many of our kids get none of that today.
History is full of cultures that were great for a time but then fell apart. What happened?
dluxxed
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by caucus1 October 4, 2006 7:30 PM EDT
Surely there were other Columbine parents who were not religious hysterics. Or other parents who have lost children in tragic circumstances. How much effort did you put into deciding whom to ask? I agree that once you asked him to speak, you were obliged to air his views. But how much thought went into asking him?
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by svendc October 4, 2006 6:02 PM EDT
Thank you Katie for the Free Speech segment and for reminding all of us that America needs to be a place that is accepting of diverse thought and ideas. Now, if only the right-wing would move as far in understanding that as you "liberal media" do, so that the principles of our pluralistic democracy. I edit RH Reality Check.org, which covers reproductive health issues from abortion and contraceotion to HIV, and today posted "FAIR AND BALANCED KATIE COURIC" to remind us all that the best part about smart women anchors is the sense of fairness they bring to the news. http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2006/10/04/fair-and-balanced-couric
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