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September 22, 2006 4:30 PM

Katie on Condi

(CBS)
Hi, everyone.

I’ve been working this week on a profile of Condoleezza Rice for Sunday’s 60 Minutes.

This is a woman who is “scary smart” – so intelligent, it’s scary. She seems to have a photographic memory. She can tick off events and dates in a way that made my head spin. She’s also an astute, passionate student of history--and history is what is giving her enormous confidence and comfort in the crafting of the Bush Administration’s foreign policy.

During our interview, she cited the Civil War, the Cold War, and other dark days in international history to demonstrate that very trying times are often worth the end result.

I think I have a better understanding of her “foreign policy psyche” from hearing about her childhood experiences. She grew up in the heart of the segregated south in Birmingham, Alabama, and literally felt the repercussions of the church bombing in September 1963. Two miles away, she felt her house shake from the blast. Four young girls were killed, including one who had been a playmate of hers. You get the distinct sense that she understands and appreciates the philosophy of terror -- and feels for the unwitting victims of a twisted political agenda that targets the innocent.

Condi Rice is an eternal optimist. She believes that good will triumph over evil, and feels strongly that other countries deserve the same rights that we have. And she believes it’s the role of the United States to stand beside them and support them.

In one of our most intense exchanges, she compared people who say that certain countries and peoples were not equipped to handle democracy to those who discounted and dismissed African Americans before the Civil Rights movement fully took hold.

She’s much warmer, more “girly” and fun than the disciplined, controlled stateswoman you see on the world stage. She doesn’t have a lot of free time, but she preserves Sunday afternoons as “her time.” She likes to play tennis, and is learning how to play golf – she says she likes it and is getting good at “reading the greens.”

And then there’s her music. She loves playing the piano -- it really is “instrumental” in her life. She describes playing music as “transporting” – it’s the only time her brain isn’t focused on world events, because it requires so much to focus on music. If you take your eye off the notes, you can muck it up.

And Condi Rice doesn’t like to muck anything up.




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by jmehrlich September 25, 2006 8:08 PM EDT
I'm sorry Ms. Couric, but this piece above is pure cotton candy: fluff, spin and sugar coated.

You begin by talking about her great memory, but fail to note that she repeatedly testified to not remembering key conversations when she was before the September 11 Commission. In fact it was a photograph of a previous presidential advisor on national security Adm. William D. Leahy testifying regarding the attack on Pearl Harbor that forced Ms. Rice to give up the line that no presidential advisor ever testified before a committee before (this was before the position of National Security Advisor was formalized).
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by bellal-2009 September 25, 2006 6:46 PM EDT
Katie, Great interview with Madam Secty. Rice. She is an inspiration.
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by jcorbin1958 September 25, 2006 6:27 PM EDT
I'll believe Bush anyday over the likes of John Kerry, and the liberal democrats! I back our Republican Party 100%, and would vote for Mr. Bush again, if he was able to run!
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by jcorbin1958 September 25, 2006 5:31 PM EDT
Condoleeza Rice would make a great President. She has my vote if she ever decides to run for the office!
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by hhanzel September 25, 2006 4:59 PM EDT
I was not able to watch on T.V. (two kids - husband on travel) but I caught up online (thanks for that feature.) Thank you for talking about things others in your field would label as 'fluffy' - because I think of them as heartful, purposeful and daily life. Things like cooking, dating and marriage. And thank you for using the word 'girly' to describe Condi. Both of you are strong smart women who aren't afraid to be women. I LOVE THAT! I can relate. Was fabulous to watch. Thank you.
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by jmotta2 September 25, 2006 1:41 PM EDT
Hi Katie,
Congratulations!! I loved when you said to Condi, in a very direct way, "that's not the question".

I am so tired of reporters asking questions of politicians and the response not answering the question! You are brave enough to say it how it is. keep up the great work.
Jill
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by mh4cbs1 September 25, 2006 5:26 AM EDT
Seapearle:
Seems you are one of the few who still believe the Bush lies about WMDs. Read Scott Ritter's books - he's a Republican, ex-Marine, and as in Iraq heading the UN inspection team throughout the 1990s.
Saddam was under our thumb, there WERE NO WMDs, this was OBVIOUS to people who bothered to look into the Bush/Condi/Rumsfeld flase claims of aluminum tubes, Niger yellow cake uranium, the fake 'ties to Al Quaeda' (Saddam hated Isalmic fundamnentalists, duh), the 'mushroom clouds'. And considering the motives outlined in PNAC papers, whats to figure out? Wake Up! Your Republican Party has been hijacked by a bunch of very dangerous people, who exploit 9-11 for their politics or fear, hate and WAR. They have you so afraid, I guess you will believe anything.
So who is sacrificing for this War OF Terror? One Trillion in tax cuts for the super-wealthy, massive deficits, trade deficits, jobs outsourced, attempts to dismantle Social Security, Haliburton record profits.... This Bush-Cheney regime is a complete and total DISASTER (unless you are one of the very rich, of course - then Bush is your man!)
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by rozzman53 September 25, 2006 3:20 AM EDT
"And Condi Rice doesn%u2019t like to muck anything up." Please. Everybody seems to have forgotten that this woman is part of an administration that on September 10, 2001, was being widely written off as a failure. His poll numbers were falling faster than Enron stock, he was a national joke for the number of days he spent vacationing, and Ms Rice was a major part of it. Then, on the next day, she, and the rest of this administration were suddenly being hailed as our "saviours". And the "All Fear All The Time" strategy began. This woman was one of the ones who spoon-fed this country the lies that got us into another Vietnam. Where were you guys with your probing questions? Why didn't, and haven't, you gone after this President for lieing like you did Clinton? It seems Bush's lies are the worse since our troops are being butchered in Iraq and Afganistan. "And Condi Rice doesn%u2019t like to muck anything up." Right. Where the hell is Edward R. Murrow when you really need him?
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by robertscom1 September 25, 2006 12:52 AM EDT
Ms. Couric:

Tonight, I watched 60 Minutes; and the first thing on this excellent show was your interview with Ms. Rice.......it was a glowing moment in republican propaganda; and helped me to understand why I dispise and hate this administration's policies and the republican party so well.

Ms. Rice is the epidemy of the country's ignorance and blindness of what must be considered a "lemming mentality" of the president's failed "war on terror"; blindly following whatever this administration tells her is true, she espouts all of the retoric and republican dogma that she can, in order to give the impression of a "good" american. And what's more she also tried to compare the present conditions to the Civil Rights clash of the 60's......I was highly insulted by that one! And, how many times can you shift blame to a new Middle-Eastern country or individual to justify your need for conquest? This woman spouts the praises of her boss.....I can't subscribe to her ignominious comments nor her view of the world at large.
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by jopocop September 25, 2006 12:41 AM EDT
I have no quarrel with Condi as to her personal aspects and professionalism, etc., however, common on now, her politics is destructive because she cannot or will not face the true facts that the Iraq war has been lost and cannot be won. She is pipe-dreaming to think that our enemies will ever let up on what still will always be an American created govt. Lets be realistic, our enemies have stated that they will never accept this American instituted govt, because it is regarded as an unholy and Western poisoned govt. Remember, we never allowed the people of Iraq a threshold vote on whether they wanted America to leave. We have them only one choice---to set up an American puppet govt. Now, are we really going to prop up that puppet govt indefinitely? No way. We leave and declare our task done and let the people truly decide how to establish their own final govt without our dictating to them.
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by lindany-2009 September 24, 2006 11:01 PM EDT
Katie:
Thank you for presenting a personable side of Condi Rice. Putting all politics and opinions aside, it is interesting to know more about the person.
Linda from NY
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by perinter55-2009 September 24, 2006 10:18 PM EDT
I find it apalling that the current (and recent for that matter) administration are so quick to label "good" and "bad", and simply discard the years of imperialism, exploitation and oppression of other peoples, and simply regard it as a means to an end - economic prosperity in the U.S. Let's face it - the "exploited" countries don't have the economic or military powers that the U.S. have. How did the U.S. think that the reponse would be? We see it again, now, in Iraq, how Haliburton is exploiting the conditions to further their own ends. Has anybody stopped to ask how much the bank accounts of Bush, Cheney and Rice have improved with the war in Iraq?
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by tomhorsman September 24, 2006 9:32 PM EDT
Dual action Diplomacy and soldiers will flush away any evil.
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by tomhorsman September 24, 2006 9:27 PM EDT
Diplomacy prolongs or ends hostilies. In the case of the Israel and Lebanon War, it ended with having not being prolonged. Secretary Rice had (with hard diplomacy) the best case scenario happen for the world.
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by September 24, 2006 2:07 PM EDT
Do Middle Eastern Countries as a whole, respect woman enough to put them in the room when important negotiations are going on?
In the middle east, what country sends a minority woman to speak for their country?
We sent a brilliant, talented (overly so), minority, woman to the middle east to bring the parties together.
We BLEW IT.
When negotiations of this level are being done, you have to respect, at every level, the person sitting next to you and across from you. Respect is what always gets it done at the end of the day.
Our secretary of state is a fantastic mind. She represents all that is great about America. She took opportunities that she mainly found herself and she forged them into an honorable career, with which she has tried to help.
Is she always right?
No.
In this case she put herself at the table.(probably with some help from her boss.) But I gotta say I think that's a blown call. Who in the American diplomatic party does the middle east respect? Who on our side of the table can, without the threat of military intervention, get these parties to talk?
Is it really our secretary of state?
We need to be mindful of the cultures in play. We need to be respectful. Not since Franklin have we needed a mind that can walk into Paris, sit in the parlor's until all hours of the night and negotiate on behalf of the country.....and walk out with a favorable outcome. At the end of the day Condi is good, but she is not Franklin.(by no fault of her own.)
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by cbelster September 24, 2006 3:19 AM EDT
When considering our Secretary%u2019s role in Middle Eastern affairs, I think that it is important to note her insights into the oil industry. Her Chevron affiliation gives her the background into the recycling of petrodollars which not only assures a clear understanding of the dynamic we face in the region, but also its potential impact on our nation%u2019s energy and economic strategies. Additionally, though the cost of the U.S. effort in the Middle East has been well beyond preliminary expectations, I think that it is fair to say that $300 Billion is well below the premium for preventing a nuclear detonation by Iraq or any other surrounding Middle Eastern nation. Finally, I would note that many local, middle class school superintendents are paid well above what our Secretary of State receives for her service with only a fraction of the criticism.
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by mh4cbs1 September 24, 2006 2:21 AM EDT
Condi "doesn't like to muck things up"??
Why did she LIE us into a needless War in Iraq? What about $300 Billion wasted on WAR? What about the tens of thousands of dead and maimed inncocent Iraqi civilians? What about the thoudsands of (mostly poor and middle class) Americans that have been used as cannon fodder for this Bush folly? Why did we pull 90% of our forces out of Afghanistan (letting Osama go free) in order to Invade Iraq, when fly-overs, inspectors and sanctions had put Saddam under our thumb? Saddam hated Islamic fundamentalists, noe Bush-Cheney-Condi have handed Iraq over to them!
TheInvasion of Iraq was a "muck" up on a colossal scale!
Katie, did any of this ocurr to you, or are you just doing your corporate job of feeding us the same old fluff and GOP spin.
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by psychic-1 September 24, 2006 2:11 AM EDT
TO CBS EVENING NEWS ANCHOR-THE LOVELY-KATIE COURIC:"KATIE" THE DISTINGUISHED SECRETARY OF STATE DR.CONDOLEEZZA RICE HONORED ME WITH HER VISIT IN VALLEY HILLS MALL IN HICKORY-NORTH CAROLINA-SECRETARY RICE HAS BEEN A CREDIT TO OUR NATION WITH HER OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AND DEDICATION-PLEASE CONTACT SECRETARY RICE FOR AN INVITATION FOR ME TO WASHINGTON-D.C.-TO GIVE HER THE "EXACT" LOCATION OF OSAMA BIN LADEN AND "ALL" THE AL-QAEDA TERRORIST'S CELLS-WORLD-WIDE-FOR CAPTURE OR DEATH-THANK-YOU-CBS EVENING NEWS ANCHOR KATIE COURIC-YOUR GLAMOUROUS-BEST WISHES-STAY SAFE-AMERICA'S FRIEND-THE NORTH CAROLINA PSYCHIC-CHARLIE..!!
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by stringhc September 23, 2006 9:43 AM EDT
When Lincoln was president, everybody hated him. The country went to war. Now he is seen as one of the greatest leaders of all time. History paints this picture. Many people don't like P. Bush. What will his picture appear to be. History is important and how do we change thousand of years of history in a few short years or decades. The answer is we can't. We changed the lives of many Americans by fighting the civil war, which when it was happening, was not a few thousand year paradigm we were figting against. Lincoln had this to his advantage. If anything that history will portray Bush as, is a president that killed many thousands of people, and upset millions more. So, Miss Rices view of history might seem to her to favor Bush's legacy, it is flawed in the aspect of what it takes to change the ways of millions of peoople have had for thousnds of years versus a few hudred thousand with new ideas on human rights. We are not liberators in the eyes of our enemies, and never will be. One hundred years from history will look back at Bush and see what, a liberator, or a death merchant?

My hunch is the latter.
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by oxyopia_ September 23, 2006 9:42 AM EDT
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Rice has served on the board of directors for the Chevron Corporation. She also headed Chevron's committee on public policy until she resigned on January 15, 2001, to become National Security Advisor to President George W. Bush. Chevron honored Rice by naming an oil tanker Condoleezza Rice after her, but controversy led to its being renamed Altair Voyager... California Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer has also criticised Rice in relation to the war in Iraq: "I personally believe -- this is my personal view -- that your loyalty to the mission you were given, to sell the war, overwhelmed your respect for the truth." From OXYOPIA_: I agree with you Katie, that Condi so intelligent, it%u2019s SCARY. Katie I hope that your loyalty to your new job doesn't ever overwhelm your respect for the truth. But having said that Katie, like all your fans I love you and respect you, and am willing to go with your gut feeling on your decisions. Just don't ever lose your integrity, because after the 2008 elections, I want to be able to say "I not only support PRESIDENT COURIC, I adore her!"
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