AP/ March 2, 2011, 11:06 PM

Ohio Senate Bill 5 passes, restricting unions

COLUMBUS, Ohio - The bargaining rights of public workers in Ohio would be dramatically reduced and strikes would be banned under a bill narrowly passed by the state Senate on Wednesday.

The Republican-backed measure that would restrict the collective bargaining rights of roughly 350,000 teachers, firefighters, police officers and other public employees squeaked through the state Senate on a 17-16 vote. Six Republicans sided with Democrats against the measure.

Firefighters and teachers shouted "Shame!" in the chamber as the legislation was approved and moved on to the Republican-controlled House, where it is likely to receive strong support.

The bill is similar to the Republican-supported collective bargaining bill in the Wisconsin legislature that has sparked national debate in its weakening of public employees' ability to negotiate contracts — although there are differences between the two. Wisconsin's bill exempts police and firefighters from the collective bargaining restrictions, while Ohio's does not. And the bill there in Wisconsin would affect 175,000 unionized public workers.

The Ohio bill would ban strikes by public workers and establish penalties for those who do participate in walkouts. Unionized workers could negotiate wages, hours and certain work conditions but not health care, sick time or pension benefits. The measure would do away with automatic pay raises and base future wage increases on merit.

The legislation would also set up a new process to settle worker disputes, giving elected officials the final say in contract disagreements. Binding arbitration, which police officers and firefighters use to resolve contract disputes as an alternative to strikes, would be eliminated.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich, a Republican like his counterpart, Scott Walker, in Wisconsin, praised the development.

Both have pushed anti-collective bargaining bills as part of budget-balancing measures, in the process reinvigorating unions that have turned out tens of thousands of supporters to fight the bills.

Republican Sen. Tim Grendell spoke out against the Ohio bill, saying the process would turn workers into beggars before city councils and other officials who oversee them.

The bill's sponsor, Republican Sen. Shannon Jones, said the bill, which would change a 27-year-old Ohio law, is long overdue and would help state and local governments control costs.

Jones said the bill is not an attack on the middle class, prompting snickering and coughs from members of the public in the crowded chamber. Democratic lawmakers pointed out teachers, pipefitters and public safety workers from their districts at the start of the hearing.

Standing in the Statehouse Rotunda after the vote, Columbus firefighter Terry Marsh said he understood Legislature's need to look for ways to save on costs and examine collective bargaining.

"But to ram something through within a few weeks is irresponsible, and to blame the budget woes of the state on the workers is a downright travesty," he said.

Polls indicate national public opinion favors unions in the dispute.

The latest New York Times-CBS poll found Americans oppose efforts to weaken the collective bargaining rights of public employee unions by a margin of almost two to one — 60 percent to 33 percent. The nationwide telephone poll of 984 adults had a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.

It was conducted Feb. 24-27.

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goldennighthawk says:
What I cannot figure out is that the government want the working people to pay for part of their health benefits and not be able to talk about wages because they want them to be like the rest of the working class people. My questions is why don't the government practice what they preach? Why don't they take a pay cut and pay for their insurance and benefit as well. It must be nice to make laws that benefit them and not the working class people. The way I was taught in school that the government works for the people so which means that if our tax money is paying their wages we the AMERICAN WORKING CLASS PEOPLE should be like Donald Trump and say YOUR FIRE or make them take a pay cut and pay for their benefit as well. For me I have no benefit because the company I work for took it away because they could no longer to afford it. I just Hope the AMERICAN PEOPLE will wake up before it is to late and tell them enough is enough.
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tracy49_4 says:
I am new to this site and have not read every post. BUT, the one thing I want to know is, 'how much do the Government people make, will their income be touched, and what about thier retirement? What sacrifices are they making for the current economical situation???' I'm pretty sure NONE!!! When they can guarantee to me that they will take a cut in wages/retirement, then I will gladly support their choices/decisions.
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lakentner says:
Safety Services has been glossed over very neatly in Senate Bill 5. As written; The Fire Department and Police Department will be cut to bare bones. Not only will they lack the equipment and manpower to provide adequate protection; They are not even allowed to talk to officials to try and remedy the problem. Regardless your position; Union-vs- Non-Union, you have to admit this is a fatal flaw, fatal for us. It is however an excellent vehicle for corruption and nepotisim and good luck to the FF or Cop who's supervisor is having a bad day- or has an 'ax to grind' they can be 'laid-off' and there's not a thing they can do about it. Well, they can be fined or go to jail for talking to anyone with the power to intervene. Even more disturbing is the thought of the FF of Cop who has given 20+ years of service and is again, 'laid off' two weeks before retirement. When did they become the enemy? Are we so content going backwards to the days of Gordon Gecko "The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed -- for lack of a better word -- is good." That didn't work out so good then and round 2 isn't looking any better.
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starving1968-3 says:
by infantryman1968 March 3, 2011 10:56 AM EST

hungry1968

When the cuts come to NY, and they will come to NY by the way, will you vote for consessions or thow you own kid under the bus?







There were no cuts. The politicians here came up with a new addition to the pension system last year, that has employees contributing more money into the pension system, for a longer period of time.

Ideologically targeting unionized employees - because they're smart enough not to vote for republicans - wasn't necessary, and the NY pension system is again solvent.

Granted the state is still in a huge hole, but that's not the fault of the unions.
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infantryman1968 says:
Ohio Senate Bill 5 passes, restricting unions


LOL!

The revolution begins!
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infantryman1968 says:
Ohio Senate Bill 5 passes, restricting unions

Bargaining rights of public workers in Ohio would be dramatically reduced and strikes would be banned under bill

LOL!

hungry1968

When the cuts come to NY, and they will come to NY by the way, will you vote for consessions or thow you own kid under the bus?

assuming you are in the top tier of senority and he is not.
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t4speced says:
I dont feel the need to call anyone names or argue. I do have a question since I'm not as familiar with this bill as some. How do they plan to measure raises based on "merit"? What is considered appropriate? If they plan on using standardize test scores, how do teachers with low performing students, like special education classrooms base merit for those teachers? Are their plans in the works?
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afloatinasea says:
Does any union member understand the word "broke".
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Jhihmoac says:
Jumping on the bandwagon after WI...
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karek40 says:
response to Imthaid. I support the bill and have nothing to gain. I do not consider myself an idiot (however others often disagree). Federal workers unions cannot negotiate salaries or contributions to their 401k's. Elected city and county officals are average folks and their unions hire negotiators with more experience and often force the dispute to binding arbitration by a third party who doesn't care what the fiscal situation is. The fact many city/county/state governments are broke and you can't negotiate over what you don't have.
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