Answering Peter Schiff on gold

FILE - In this undated handout file photo from Newmont Mining Corporation, gold nuggets and bars are shown. In December 2007, gold for about $840 an ounce. A little over a year later, it rose above $1,000 for the first time. It climbed gradually for the next two years. Then in March 2011, it began rocketing up. On Tuesday, Aug. 16, 2011, it traded at $1,788 an ounce, up 26 percent this year. (AP Photo/Newmont Mining, File ) AP Photo/Newmont Mining, File

(MoneyWatch) Recently, Peter Schiff, CEO of EuroPacific Precious Metals, wrote a response to a post I made warning investors about the potential problems with jumping in on gold based on economic forecasters. Specifically, he took issue with what I said about economic forecasters and about gold in general.

In short, I stand by what I wrote earlier regarding both. My opinion, based on the academic evidence, have been made clear in previous posts, and nothing in Schiff's response has caused me to doubt the evidence. Today, I'd like to address a few of Schiff's arguments.

I did make an error in quoting him saying gold would hit $2,300 by 2014. He was quoted in the article that made that forecast. However, in 2008 Schiff predicted that gold would hit $2,000 by 2009 and $5,000 by 2013.

Next, Schiff stated that I said that I don't recall any forecasters advising clients to invest in gold at the lows prior to 2003." What I actually said is quite different: "Prior to 2003, when gold was under $300 an ounce, I don't recall any investors asking if they should include an allocation to gold in their investment plan." I made no mention of what forecasters were saying, just that I wasn't getting any questions about buying gold at that time from investors. I'm sure there were forecasters that recommended buying gold in 2003 when it was around $300 per ounce, just as I'm sure there were forecasters who recommended buying gold in 1980 when it was at $850 or in 1995 when it was at $300 or in 2008 when it was at $900. There's almost always someone recommending gold or any other investment in the hope that they'll be right and become the next big guru. Even blind squirrels do occasionally find acorns.

Responding to my statement that "there are no good forecasters, just overconfident ones," Schiff stated: "Perhaps he simply hasn't met a good forecaster." Let's address this in two parts. First, the statement about there being no good forecasters isn't based on my opinion. It's based on academic research into the subject. For those interested in the subject of forecasting, I highly recommend Philip Tetlock's "Expert Political Judgment," William Sherden's "The Fortune Sellers," or a recent look at the records of individual forecasters by CXO Advisory Group.

As to my not meeting any good forecasters: First, I have been lucky enough in my career to have spent time with many of our country's top economists, including some from the Federal Reserve, some from the leading investment banking firms, and others from academia.

More to the point, I found a Web site tracking some of Schiff's predictions. Of the 17 predictions the site has reviewed, five turned out to be correct, 10 turned out to be wrong, and they gave an incomplete grade to two:

  • One was a video titled "We Probably Won't Make It To 2012," where Schiff predicted that the economy would collapse in 2011, but certainly by 2012, and so would the dollar.
  • The other was a Dec. 31, 2010 CNBC interview where Schiff called for the US markets to crash like dominos as so many things are bound to happen in 2011.

I may not be impartial, but it doesn't looks like either of these predictions came true, giving him five correct predictions out of 17.

I'll leave it to you to decide if Schiff is a good forecaster, as he claims: "On that measure, I feel comfortable calling myself a good forecaster, as well as a confident one."

As I said in my column, I don't make stock market, interest rate or gold forecasts, because the evidence suggests that there aren't any good forecasters. If you don't want to take my advice on the subject, how about Warren Buffett's? He advised against paying attention to such forecasts because they tell more about the person making the prediction than about the market. 

It's also worth noting that I don't have any problem with including gold in a long-term portfolio. As I said in the post: "If gold fits into your long-term plan and you can handle the periods when gold stalls or falls, gold might merit a small allocation." I also noted that personally I prefer an allocation to a broader commodity index (such as the DJ-UBS).

Finally, Schiff added this comment: "Noncommittal 'advice' conveniently allows advisors to have it both ways ... it is worthless to investors." There's nothing non-committal about my advice. It's just that Schiff and I have very different views on what investors should focus on. Schiff wants you to focus on things you can't control, such as returns. Instead, I want you to focus on things you can control: the amount of risk you take, the level of diversification you have, the costs you pay and the tax efficiency of your portfolio. That's playing the winner's game in both life and investing.

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    Larry Swedroe is director of research for The BAM Alliance. He has authored or co-authored 13 books, including his most recent, Think, Act, and Invest Like Warren Buffett. His opinions and comments expressed on this site are his own and may not accurately reflect those of the firm.

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