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November 16, 2009 3:36 PM

Fact Check: Palin Accounts Disputed by McCain Aides

(AP/Harper)
By special contributor Shushannah Walshe and CBS News' Scott Conroy, co-authors of the book "Sarah From Alaska: The Sudden Rise And Brutal Education Of A New Conservative Superstar"

Two of the more enticing excerpts that have been published in advance of the official release of Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" involve the former vice presidential candidate's recollections of behind-the-scenes conflicts with top McCain aides on the 2008 campaign trail. The first details Palin's version of a conversation she had with top campaign aides about her views on evolution, and the second addresses the fallout from the infamous crank call she received from a comedian pretending to be French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

On the night before John McCain invited Palin to join him on the Republican presidential ticket, Palin stayed in Flagstaff, Arizona, at the home of Bob Delgado, the CEO of Cindy McCain's family company Hensley & Co. After speaking on the phone with McCain campaign attorney A.B. Culvahouse, top McCain aides Mark Salter and Steve Schmidt took turns trying to ensure that Palin was ready for the monumental leap onto the national stage that she was about to take.

The McCain campaign had stressed secrecy over thoroughness in their vetting of Palin, so at this eleventh hour, Salter and Schmidt grilled the Alaska governor on topics ranging from her own political record to more personal matters.

Salter was particularly interested in Palin's views on the subject of evolution vs. creationism, and according to an excerpt from "Going Rogue," Palin maintains that the McCain campaign's chief strategist, Steve Schmidt, was dismissive of her point of view on the subject.

Palin writes: "But your dad's a science teacher," Schmidt objected. "Yes." "Then you know that science proves evolution," added Schmidt. "Parts of evolution," I said. "But I believe that God created us and also that He can create an evolutionary process that allows species to change and adapt." Schmidt winced and raised his eyebrows. In the dim light, his sunglasses shifted atop his head. I had just dared to mention the C-word: creationism. But I felt I was on solid factual ground."

Palin's version of the conversation contradicts the reporting we conducted for our own book, "Sarah From Alaska," which was published earlier this month.

"I'm the daughter of a science teacher. My father showed me fossils. I know about evolution, and I accept evolution," Palin said, we report in our book. "That doesn't mean that God didn't set everything in motion."

In "Sarah From Alaska," we reported that contrary to Palin's description of a pair of sunglasses shifting ominously atop Schmidt's head, both Schmidt and Salter were actually quite satisfied with Palin's answer, which dovetailed with the theory of Intelligent Design.

Read an Exclusive Excerpt from "Sarah from Alaska"
Washington Unplugged Interviews Conroy and Walshe

Two former McCain aides each independently maintained that Palin's recollection of the conversation in "Going Rogue," was inaccurate.

"If she had been, 'I am a creationist,' she would not have been the nominee," one former aide said. "McCain wouldn't have gone for that."

Another former McCain campaign aide maintained not to have recalled ever hearing Palin use the word "creationism" and said that it had been Palin, not Schmidt, who had raised the issue of her father's occupation as a science teacher.

Palin's book may not have even hit the shelves yet, but some former McCain aides are already complaining that the former Alaska governor has taken real events but shifted the context and embellished quotations, in order to fit the narrative that she was a victim of incompetent handling and deserving of little blame for her own missteps.

Coming to Palin's defense, a former aide who traveled with the governor during the campaign and remains close to her said that the McCain folks should follow the Arizona senator's lead and refrain from commenting on "Going Rogue," at least until they have read the book.

"From what I've seen in the book, it's a positive book," the Palin loyalist said. "Here we go again. People should listen, take it in, and go from there."

In another excerpt of "Going Rogue," obtained by the Huffington Post, Palin provides her version of Schmidt's reaction to the "Sarkozy" crank phone call, which lasted several minutes before the embarrassed vice presidential candidate finally hung up the phone.

"Right away, the phones started ringing," Palin writes in the excerpt. "One of the first calls was Schmidt, and the force of his screaming blew my hair back. 'How can anyone be so stupid?! Why would the president of France call a vice presidential candidate a few days out?!'"

"Good question, I thought,'' Palin writes. "Weren't you the ones who set this up?"

A senior McCain aide and a mid-level Palin staffer who was with the governor during the crank call disputes this account and says that Schmidt did not call to berate her over the incident and that the chief strategist instead sent an email to staffers, rebuking them for setting up the call.

Furthermore, as Palin was told at the time, it was her own foreign policy adviser, Steve Biegun, who set up the phone call with "Sarkozy," not Schmidt.

"The call had been on the official schedule that went out to all campaign aides, but it had merely been labeled 'personal phone call,' which could have meant a conversation with her mother or son," we write in "Sarah From Alaska." "…Palin's demeanor softened a bit when she learned that Biegun, a staunch loyalist, had been responsible for allowing the call to go through. As her stunned aides looked on, Biegun was called and told what had happened. He was mortified and accepted full responsibility for not notifying the proper aides about the phone call and allowing the pranksters to get to the candidate, but Palin was determined to correct the mistake rather than reflect upon it."

The former Palin aide who remains loyal to her said that Schmidt did in fact place a phone call but that he was not singling out Palin for blame.

"He was yelling at the situation. I wouldn't say yelling at her," the aide said.

After Election Day, former McCain aides unleashed a barrage of attacks against Palin --the woman whom they had worked tirelessly to elevate to the vice presidency -- with charges of incompetence, ignorance, and self-aggrandizement.

In "Going Rogue," Palin appears to relish the opportunity to strike back. But the McCain side shows no signs of retreating, as they continue to leak internal campaign emails (some of which are reprinted in "Sarah From Alaska") to back up their version of events.

"It was of incredibly great concern on the campaign -- her constant misstatement of facts," a former McCain senior aide said in a phone conversation on Sunday. "That is what the tension was fundamentally about."

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by Cattzen November 18, 2009 2:50 PM EST
The results from the Bush Presidency and the Rubber Stamp Congress is what America voted against in 2008. Never before in US history has Americans been able to retrospect complete Conservative Control and effect. As for the future of the Republican Party, it really doesn't matter who will be delivering the message it will always be the same.
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by gringovejo November 16, 2009 8:53 PM EST
As strange as it may seem; that we could have a candidate for the second
highest office in the Nation, that absolutely does not believe that we have
a common ancestor amongst the great apes, is unbelievable. However, this is actually dwarfed by the fact, that after hearing of this, researchers could not find even one member of the great apes family, that will accept that they are, somehow, related to us in any manner.
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by wattEYEno November 16, 2009 7:45 PM EST
It was PALIN who caused Mc to lose the White House.
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by alanbakerschultz November 18, 2009 6:47 PM EST
Please. Palin didn't help matters, but it was George W. who lost the White House to Obama.
by bann65 November 16, 2009 7:44 PM EST
I wish we could put all these "CORRUPT", inept, hypocritical liberal politicians in a rocket and send them to another planet. Oh and take Castro and Chavez and MAO's literature with them! hahahahahaha there they gooooooooo..................don't forget your designer clothes Spelosi...............hahaha and gourmet food hahahaha............BYE
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by wattEYEno November 16, 2009 7:38 PM EST
Dear Sarah,
Please consider becomeing a DEMOCRAT or INDEPENDANT so that the GOP can have a chance at the White House in 2012.
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by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 7:22 PM EST
It's a good thing that you're so perfect!
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by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 7:16 PM EST
Hoping to find some common sense in CBS and the liberals LOL!!! :-)
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by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 7:14 PM EST
Wow, it's amazing how jealous people are of a happily married successful lady!
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by slownewsday-05 November 16, 2009 7:21 PM EST
I don't think people generally call quitting being successful...
by wattEYEno November 16, 2009 7:41 PM EST
The name PALIN and the word SUCCESS have nothing at all in common and should never be used in any other sentence except this one.
by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 7:13 PM EST
Folks,

Does anyone knows in which issue of Playgirl is Sarah's son-in-law Levi Johnston going to show us what he got?
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by writer10 November 16, 2009 7:26 PM EST
a more disturbing question is why you care
by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 7:11 PM EST
I don't think this conversation is as much about Palin as it is about how biased the media is towards liberals.
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by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 7:15 PM EST
by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 7:11 PM EST
I don't think this conversation is as much about Palin as it is about how biased the media is towards liberals.

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Hey commonsense2day,

I keep asking the same question to you and never get an answer.

Why do Conservative love to suffer here on Cbsnews when they can be happy Re-Enforcing and Enjoying their Ideologies on FoxNews?
by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 7:08 PM EST
Folks,

McCain's Aides better be quiet or Sarah Palin will write "Going Rogue Part 2".
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by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 7:07 PM EST
Sort of like Joe Biden?
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by schwarzzennegger November 16, 2009 7:06 PM EST
Bottom Line... McCain and his advisers Schmidt et al were idiots for picking an idiot for the Republican Vice Presidential slot !!! She is who she is and can't help that...they had the option of MANY competent and appropriate candidates... and she shouldn't have been on anyone's list !!!
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by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 7:11 PM EST
by schwarzzennegger November 16, 2009 7:06 PM EST
Bottom Line... McCain and his advisers Schmidt et al were idiots for picking an idiot for the Republican Vice Presidential slot !!! She is who she is and can't help that...they had the option of MANY competent and appropriate candidates... and she shouldn't have been on anyone's list !!!

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Hey schwarzzennegger,

I totally agree that anybody else would have been much better than Sarah Palin for the V.P. selection. Curious what John McCain is thinking right now.
by retm-w November 16, 2009 8:01 PM EST
shwarzzennegger They got fooled. Obama was supposed to pick Hillary for his running mate. McCain and his advisors jumped the gun and picked Sarah before Obama announced his his choice.
by bann65 November 16, 2009 6:59 PM EST
The libs can't swallow a normal, happily married woman. I think alot of you posting are gay. You're mad because you know your wrong so you take it out on someone who is good and wholesome. Learn to take responsibility for your actions libs, you've got eternity to think about!
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by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 7:04 PM EST
by bann65 November 16, 2009 6:59 PM EST
The libs can't swallow a normal, happily married woman. I think alot of you posting are gay. You're mad because you know your wrong so you take it out on someone who is good and wholesome. Learn to take responsibility for your actions libs, you've got eternity to think about!

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Hey bann65,

Talking about responsibilities....Do you wish me to repeat the White Privilege lists?
by slownewsday-05 November 16, 2009 7:20 PM EST
You don't have to be a lib to see Palin for the moron evangelical she is.

And what part of her image is "good and wholesome"?? The getting pregnant before wedlock and having her daughter do the same, or the shooting wolves from a plane?


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by DocD--2008 November 17, 2009 5:10 PM EST
Good and wholesome people don't lie to your face, Palin does, do you not understand this? EVERYONE is saying she has lied, not just the libs..
by alanbakerschultz November 18, 2009 6:54 PM EST
Good and wholesome she may be, but it takes brains to keep the story straight ~ she needs to take care of her family ~ not the White House
by alanbakerschultz November 18, 2009 7:53 PM EST
Good and wholesome she may be, but it takes brains to keep the story straight ~ she needs to take care of her family ~ not the White House
by alanbakerschultz November 18, 2009 7:55 PM EST
Good and wholesome she may be, but it takes brains to keep the story straight ~ she needs to take care of her family ~ not the White House
by alanbakerschultz November 18, 2009 7:56 PM EST
Good and wholesome she may be, but it takes brains to keep the story straight ~ she needs to take care of her family ~ not the White House
by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 6:57 PM EST
lakota2012, are you Native American "Lakota" ? I'm taking a Native American Class right now and it rocks!!
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by lakota2012 November 16, 2009 6:53 PM EST
"It was of incredibly great concern on the campaign -- her constant misstatement of facts," a former McCain senior aide said in a phone conversation on Sunday. "That is what the tension was fundamentally about."
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And the caribou barbi saga continues down the same exact path, with her fictional account through a constant misstatement of facts!
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by Omni-Present101 November 16, 2009 6:55 PM EST
CBS News: Please Talk about Real Women with Real National and International Experience, such as Former Secretary of State, Condoleeza Rice and Senator Lisa Murkowski, who should be the Nominees for President and Vice President of the USA...

Opposed to this Hollow, Floating, Bubble, by the name of Sarah Palin, who has No National or International Experience or National Policy Making, whatsoever.

Please Respect the American People as Thinkers and not as Dumb, Hollow and Shallow National Enquirer Tabloid Trash Readers

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by luadda22 November 16, 2009 7:59 PM EST
Omni-Present101 "Opposed to this Hollow, Floating, Bubble, by the name of Sarah Palin, who has No National or International Experience or National Policy Making, whatsoever."

You mean like the president we have now??? He's finding it hard to just vote "present", so he just kowtows to the Emperor and apologizes.
by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 6:52 PM EST
by special-agent-utah November 16, 2009 6:36 PM EST
You are begining to sound like a Obama drama queen for saying that sarah palin gives you a headache...What's wrong?You have a problem with your looks, can't handle a better looking woman ...
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Hey special-agent-utah,

Tina Fey with a High IQ is much better looking. Damm she is not single.
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by bassinapple November 16, 2009 6:52 PM EST
Nicole Wallace's postion within the campaign was to make the kind of decisions Sarah is talking about. If we are to believe Ms. Wallace, Sarah some now got a hold of $150.000. and went on a shopping spree on her own. That does'nt make any sense.
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by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 6:50 PM EST
If you are going to cast a vote and make decisions for this Country, please educate yourself a little bit better. No, politics is not learned by watching Saturday Night Live; it is only a show.
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by lovenpeace1 November 16, 2009 6:55 PM EST
by commonsense2day November 16, 2009 6:50 PM EST
If you are going to cast a vote and make decisions for this Country, please educate yourself a little bit better. No, politics is not learned by watching Saturday Night Live; it is only a show.

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Hey commonsense2day,

Ooops, sorry, my apology, I thought this Sarah Palin stuff was just pure Celebrity Entertainment for WE THE PEOPLE.
by cvanoff November 16, 2009 6:49 PM EST
Note to Sarah: GET OUUUUUUT!!!!
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