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August 14, 2007 9:56 AM

Picking Bush's Brain

(CBS)
One of the accidental subplots to Karl Rove’s departure yesterday was a question directed to President Bush by CBS White House correspondent Bill Plante at Rove's farewell press event. His question was picked up by a DC media blog and generated many responses. So we asked Bill for his side of the story, which follows.

As the President and Karl Rove walked away from the lectern after their emotional announcement of Rove’s resignation, I yelled a question.

“If he’s so smart, why did you lose Congress?”

The President, as usual, didn’t answer.

That’s OK – he doesn’t have to if he doesn’t want to.

But judging by some of the reaction, you’d think I had been shouting obscenities in church!

“Unprofessional;” “Inappropriate;” “Unbecoming;” “Doesn’t show much class;” “you are a total idiot;” “Shill for the liberal Democrats.”

People who sympathize with the President – no matter who the President happens to be – always seem to think it’s impolite to yell questions. Or they argue that the question is inappropriate at the moment. That may sometimes be true, but not [this time].

Rove has been a controversial figure in this administration, the man most often credited or blamed with framing support for the war by politicizing terrorism.

There was no time to frame that question because the event this morning was a statement, not a news conference. So I asked a more direct one. I thought it unlikely that they would answer, but it’s always worth a try.

This isn’t the first time I’ve been blasted for yelling. Twenty or so years ago, I yelled a question at President Reagan as he left the Rose Garden after the annual Teacher of the Year ceremony.

One woman wrote to tell me that I was a guest in the President’s house and ought to be behave as one.

Ten years ago, I asked President Clinton a question which brought a red-faced angry response.

The point is that reporters are not here as guests. We’re here to ask questions.

Why?

Because if we were ever to agree to “behave,” we’d be walking away from our First Amendment role – and then we really would be the shills we’re so often accused of being.
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by mattcat25 August 14, 2007 10:59 AM PDT
The entire problem with this particular Presidential Administration has been the perceived vision instead of the realistic view of the actual facts. Karl Rove was somewhat ingenious in the way he postured the Whitehouse with perception altering propaganda and catch phrases.

Rove is said to be responsible for contributing to the election, and re-election of George W. Bush. Vehement personal attacks against campaign opponents are the Karl Rove trade mark. While working for the elected President Bush, Rove was instrumental in orchestrating the case for war against Saddam Hussein (an evil dictator).

Although, President Bush has called for %u201Creach across the isle%u201D politics from the Democratic Party, Rove and Bush have done nothing from their side to reach out, or compromise on any issue causing a break-down in the functioning of our Congress.

Karl Rove%u2019s obsession with perception management as a substitute for actual governmental administration has $cost the American People more then we will be able to realize for years to come.
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by one_american August 14, 2007 11:53 AM PDT
Bill Plante - you are merely another member of the far-left White House press corps political activists.

You are no more an objective reporter than Dan Rather was.

Is it because you think that your little leftist world is crumbling around your ears that you have to resort to yelling a breathless, desperate cat-calling loaded questions to the President?

How smart do you think YOU are for working as a Democrat Party shill at CBS?

How smart could you possibly be, working for last-place-in-the-ratings CBS?

Are the poor ratings a result of you and your liberal cohorts and the non-stop liberal agenda pushing by CBS?

Think about it, Bill.

For once just think about it.
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by memekiller August 14, 2007 12:34 PM PDT
I heard Reagan roped the journalists at a distance to force them to yell questions because it made them look bad. I agree -- if you aren't able to ask a question, have the interns set up a camera and turn it on. Or better yet, get all the journalists together to agree not to televise an event where you can't ask questions. They want something from you, too.
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by nfwriter9999 August 14, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
I think Bill Plante is worth any number of GOP paid shills.

If the fifth estate had not been asleep at their posts for the entire 21st century, maybe we wouldn't have sunken into the quagmire we have, in Iraq, in Iran, in New Orleans and in the District of Columbia. What a mess. And the conservatives have no one with whom to share the blame.

No doubt the cretin above feels that Fox News provides some imagined Father-Coughlin-like public service, but I see their role as more of the betrayer of the principles on which the US was founded. The traditional broadcast networks have been only cowardly. Fox was and is subversive.

And I see the entirety of the Bush administration the same. Their entire effort has been focussed on subverting every last department of the government to the purpose of consolidating their power.

Meanwhile every worthwhile service of government has gone to hell. I say blame, Karl Rove, blame George Bush and the father he rode in on (though the elder was never the abject failure the son has become), blame Dick Cheney, blame Alberto Gonzales, and blame all the cabinet members and GOP hangers-on who have walked the walk of shame out of the house on Pennsylvania Avenue.

They have made an unholy mess, and it won't be known for decades whether their brash, self-righteous and thoughtless actions have actually destroyed our government.
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by shoebetcha August 14, 2007 1:09 PM PDT
Your question was poorly stated and ill advised. It came across as petty and unprofesssional. It sounded like a teenager's response to a taunt. You should know better. Regardless of one's opinion of the guy (please don't trot out this objective journalist nonsense...CBS has long forfeited that trait), it there is no excure for unprofessionalism.

You are obviously no Edward R. Murrow or Walter Cronkite.
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by one_american August 14, 2007 1:34 PM PDT
"Ten years ago, I asked President Clinton a question which brought a red-faced angry response."

One can only assume that the question you asked of Clinton was if he had committed adultery and had s-e-x with the White House intern, Monica Lewinski, giving him the opportunity to lie about what really happened.

I can imagine that Clinton would have gotten red-faced and angrily denied it, putting on a show for the cameras, like only a Democrat, and especially a Clinton, knows how to do.

And I would believe you would have quickly apologized and changed the subject, Bill.
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by mattcat25 August 14, 2007 2:21 PM PDT
I see posts here from our right wing wacko friends responding in classic Karl Rove style by attacking Bill Plante, Bill Clinton, and the boogeyman %u201Cliberal media%u201D. The question was %u201CIf he%u2019s so smart, why did you lose Congress?%u201D and, if I may add%u2026What happened to the Republican rile on immigration? Social Security reform? Katrina? No child left spent on? And, of course where were the weapons of mass destruction and threat from Saddam Hussein in Iraq?

Any answers?
Karl Rove has been all talk, and now he walks%u2026
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by centralcal-2009 August 14, 2007 2:28 PM PDT
I think the question was a legitimate one.

However, I think the timing and manner of the asking says more about Bill Plante than about the folks he was shouting at.

It is just another example of the types of things done by the media that the public by and large doesn't like and that they use as their guide when choosing which news source to watch, listen to, and trust.
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by joycewest August 14, 2007 2:39 PM PDT
I'd have to agree that any question that begins with the phrase "If he's so smart, then how come ..." sounds rude. But I'd rather see reporters ask rude questions occasionally than allow the president to live in a happy bubble where no one questions his take on events. It would be too easy for reporters to acquiesce to the spin the White House creates if their foremost concern was to be polite. That's what's wrong with the president's press conferences -- there's no interrupting the president, no give-and-take that really challenges his long-winded responses. That entire forum needs to be rethought. Of course, the problem with rude questions is they are more easily ignored, and we'd all like answers. But I'm glad to see someone make the effort.
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by one_american August 14, 2007 2:51 PM PDT
The best thing that Karl Rove ever did was to expose liberals for the lying, hypocritical, vengeful, spiteful, partisan fools that they are, and to halt the advance of the liberal / socialist / communist agenda.

I say, great job Karl. Now America sees liberals for who they really are.
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by sanfelz August 14, 2007 3:09 PM PDT
Bill Moyers said that "News is what the people {in power} want to keep hidden." Plante asked a question those in power choose not to address.
Another question Bush would not answer is how severely Rove's actions have intensified partisan divisiveness and hindered governance.
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by jmg560 August 14, 2007 3:09 PM PDT
"But Bill Plante of CBS News did not let McCurry go that easily, asking why he felt he could ever "afford to remain ignorant" of something concerning the president and, even more, "Who does a press secretary work for?"

http://www.diversityjobmarket.com/library/politics/100298mccurry-depart.html

Wow, so Bill Plante asked similarly pointed questions while covering the Clinton White House.

Yeah, Bill Plante, shill for the Democratic Party.
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by jmg560 August 14, 2007 3:19 PM PDT
"The best thing that Karl Rove ever did was to expose liberals for the lying, hypocritical, vengeful, spiteful, partisan fools that they are, and to halt the advance of the liberal / socialist / communist agenda.

I say, great job Karl. Now America sees liberals for who they really are.

Posted by One_American"

Utterly laughable. So much love in your post.
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by jmg560 August 14, 2007 3:24 PM PDT
"I can imagine that Clinton would have gotten red-faced and angrily denied it, putting on a show for the cameras, like only a Democrat, and especially a Clinton, knows how to do.

And I would believe you would have quickly apologized and changed the subject, Bill.
Posted by One_American"

Did you even bother to research this and find out if it really happened, or did you just make it all up to fit your point?

What a tool.
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by mattcat25 August 14, 2007 3:33 PM PDT
%u201CThe president's advisor, Karl Rove, announced he's resigning. I was surprised. I didn't think anyone in the White House had an exit strategy.%u201D

-CBS The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson
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by plantethis August 14, 2007 3:36 PM PDT
Bill, Nice back-pedaling ...

"There was no time to frame that question because the event this morning was a statement, not a news conference. So I asked a more direct one."

I've got a question for you: What important information did you hope to get with your question?
What newsworthy insight did you think would be the result of your off-the-cuff, shouted, question?
As an experienced White House Correspondent: is that really the best you are capable of?

Or, were you just caught up in the moment, that you won't have Rove to kick around anymore and despite your best efforts couldn't get any accusations to stick and you let your frustrations get the best of you?

Or, did you just revert back to the school boy days of making the other student laugh by blurting things out or making *** noises in the back of the class room?

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by swift2--2008 August 14, 2007 4:05 PM PDT
You yell questions (and this was a good one) because you've just been forced to see a muppet show with the two BFFs, where nothing of any importance was discussed, and Rove attempted to leave while spinning his resignation. Thank you, Bill, for acting like a reporter.

For the responder who asks, "Well, what answer did you get?" He wasn't going to get an answer on this or any other real question except, "Do you like the big yellow rug in the Oval Office, sir?" So it's better to have a real reporter yell an impertinent question. Let it hang there in mid-air while the audience wonders what the answer might be.

Rove gave an NPR interview just before the November elections. He said they were going to win, and he had the "real numbers." Would a genius be saying that?
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by memekiller August 14, 2007 4:06 PM PDT
I think people are missing the most subversive thing about Plante's question. It's not that it was taunting, but that Plante actually dared to question the conventional wisdom about the supposed brilliance of Bush's brain.

DC will not stand for such a thing.
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by br77rino August 14, 2007 4:37 PM PDT
What an ***. I'm a Republican but open to Democratic ideas from all Democratic candidates. I'm probably a 60/40 Republican in that sense. But blatant disrespect like that shown by this news jerk makes me and those like me a little more Republican, if just for their relative civility.
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by August 14, 2007 4:48 PM PDT
Sorry, Bill, but this former CBS Newser has to agree with PLANTETHIS. It's the "if you're so smart..." opener that turns it from a pro's query into a schoolyard taunt.
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by bodes123 August 14, 2007 4:51 PM PDT
Sounds to me like jmg560 and One_American share a pillow.

Did it ever occur to either of you genius's that there'd be a fewer Bill Plantes sounding off if "W" would just tell the truth once in a while.

That's not to say that a Pres should be expected to tell the truth "all" the time, but . . . once in a while would be nice!
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by mattcat25 August 14, 2007 4:56 PM PDT
What I find blatantly disrespectful is a Presidential Administration that would lie to the American People to declare and sustain a war to steal $billions and $billions of Federal Treasury Funds. I guess the relative civility only applies to the Private Sector Corporations.
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by mnorling August 14, 2007 5:06 PM PDT
I thought Reagan was a guest in OUR white house.
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by marie2233 August 14, 2007 6:02 PM PDT
I can think of many questions I would like to blurt out to Hillary. I have not heard one of them asked during the so-called debates. As far as I'm concerned you acted like a jerk, just looking for attention.
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by August 14, 2007 6:51 PM PDT
Sure you were disrespectful.To respect that pair would call your judgement into question.Next time write the question and attach it to a brick...OK Maybe not.
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by widowlady-2009 August 14, 2007 8:12 PM PDT

There should be more reporters like Bill...It was bad enough when Rove was "in", but I worry more now, what will he be up to, and not have to answer for it. WOW....
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by widowlady-2009 August 14, 2007 8:18 PM PDT
They or the pres. got what he dished out...give disrespect & get it back.. great going Bill. You have nohing to be ashamed of.
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by bitterplane August 14, 2007 8:57 PM PDT
I'm not positive, but it sounds like Bill is bitter that the administration didn't help him out last October when his son John Patrick Plante was arrested for calling in a false bomb threat as well as having a stash of marijuana.

Yes - this comment is just as much inappropriate as Bill's was.
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by skeezix06 August 15, 2007 6:05 AM PDT
Thank you for asking the question, Mr. Plante. That's what we really want.

A note to br77rino. There is nothing civil about calling anyone who opposes the Iraq war a traitor. There is nothing civil about cutting off electricity to a room where democrats are trying to hold a meeting in the hope that it will shut off conversation about a topic that you don't like. There is nothing civil about just about anything the republicans did while they held the majority and precious little since they lost it. The republicans became drunk with power and became extremely uncivil.
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by jj_20031 August 15, 2007 10:38 AM PDT
What a joke. The President hosts a nice gathering, with a detailed script for everyone to follow, and Plante barrels in with a question. Not just a question, but one based on FACT. It was indeed "unprofessional" and "inappropriate". Plante needs to head back to journalism school and retake the course on "Principles of Stenography".

Better yet, Plante should go back and take lessons from his peer at the NYT, Elisabeth Bumiller.

Ms. Bumiller was asked about her recordings of the President's statements in response to scripted questions during the press conference prior to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. She was asked by some unserious person whether the media should have asked original, unscripted, and indeed fact-based questions on the Eve of the invasion. Ms. Bumiller responded thusly,

"I think we were very deferential because in the East Room press conference it's live. It's very intense. It's frightening to stand up there.

I mean think about it, you're standing up on prime time live televsion asking the President of the United States a question and when the country is about to go to war. There was a very serious, somber tone that evening and I think it made, you know, nobody wanted to get into an argument with the president at this serious time."

Mr. Plante, that's real stenography. That's how a journalist behaves.
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by August 15, 2007 10:47 AM PDT
Bill Plante proves that at least ONE reporter has the right agenda - get the news and stop worrying about protocol. So many reporters report on an issue but do not ask the proper questions consequently the public gets the wrong answer and this happens much too often.

A few months ago an article referred to Security Contractors from North Carolina whose principal is a friend and contributor to Bush. The reporter dropped the real story on this organization which now unfortunately surfaces in the MERCENARY classification in Iraq. Two of the Blackwater contractors have appeared on TV agreeing they were PAID MERCENARIES and their job was whatever they were paid to do. Iraqi stories by the PEOPLE relate to these same MERCENARIES as being part of the INSURGENTS whom the media portrays as the KILLERS of innocent people. The stories also relate to the SOMARA MOSQUE bombing indicating that the bomber was a paid MERCENARY not an insurgent.

The above issues HAVE NEVER BEEN REPORTED IN THE AMERICAN MEDIA.

Is the 2008 candidate standings being MICRO MANAGED BY THE MEDIA. The people do not believe Kucinich is an underdog even though the media has established he is.

William J Clemons
willclem@grics.net
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by letendre3 August 16, 2007 2:57 PM PDT
Way to go, Bill!!! GEAUX, TIGER!!
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