The Interrogator

Ali Soufan, one of the FBI's secret weapons in its fight against al Qaeda, talks about the tactics he used against Osama bin Laden's men in an interview with Lara Logan

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Soufan said that even though new information was now being elicited, he and his partners were once again told to stop talking to Abu Zubaydah.

"Suddenly, out of the blue, they said, 'Wait a second, you guys are gonna be out because we believe he's not cooperating anymore.' Which was really shocking for us to hear," Soufan said.

"So what did you do?" Logan asked.

"What can we do?" Soufan said. "We're watching time pass by with nobody talking to a detainee, day after day."

"No one even spoke to him?" Logan asked.

"No, they go in. They say, 'Tell me what I want to know.' He says, 'What do you want to know?' And you walk out. Period. That's it," Soufan said. "That's the whole interrogation plan, if you want to call it."

Soufan told Logan that for him the last straw was when he saw a "confinement box" at the site where Abu Zubaydah was being interrogated.

"That sounds like a coffin," Logan said.

"A confinement box," Soufan said to Logan. "I thought at the time we had the guy cooperating. So what's goin' on? I mean that box was not made overnight. There's something goin' on [that] we don't know about."

"What was the box for?" Logan asked.

"I don't know," Soufan said. "I mean, definitely it's, it's for, for Abu Zubaydah."

"But that was not the kind of technique that you were prepared to stick around for?" Logan asked.

"No," Soufan said. "I just felt that, literally, we're playing games...And I really cannot be part of this."

Soufan claims that he was not the only person that felt that way and that a CIA agent also left the location.

"Actually, he left before me," Soufan said. "And then we finally reported to headquarters that, you know, 'This-- what's happening' as I called it in the D.O.J., Department of Justice inspector general report 'borderline torture.' And FBI headquarters said, 'You know, you know we don't do that.'"

"Eventually, after that, they pulled all FBI agents from high-value detainees interrogations," he continued.

Soufan never saw Abu Zubaydah again and only occasionally saw the enhanced interrogation techniques being used after that, but he claims that when President George Bush addressed the nation in 2006, the American people were being misled.

In a speech, Bush said, "We knew that Zubaydah had more information that could save innocent lives, but he stopped talking." Bush also said that, "It became clear that he had received training on how to resist interrogation. And so the CIA used an alternative set of procedures."

"I think somebody told the president some fake information, some false information. Zubaydah did not stop talking. Introducing the techniques made him stop talking," Soufan said.