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Jazz legend Wayne Shorter on personal tragedy, career triumphs

One of the best things about jazz is that it's never routine, and never settled. You could say the same about one of the genre's most celebrated artists, the saxophonist and composer Wayne Shorter. His career has spanned six decades and earned him 11 Grammys.

The 85-year-old saxophonist, who is also known as one of the world's greatest composers, is part a prestigious group of artists who were celebrated at the Kennedy Center Honors earlier this month for their contributions to American culture.

But Shorter shows no sign of slowing down.

When asked why he loves jazz so much, Shorter said, "Jazz is a fighter.  The word jazz means to me, 'I dare you. Let's jump into the unknown!'"

Shorter was always fascinated by the unknown. Growing up in Newark, New Jersey in the 1930s, he loved to draw comics and ditch school to watch sci-fi films at the local movie theater. 

When he was caught, the vice principal forced him into a music class.

"So, as I was walking away from her classroom, what was happening to me was what some people call life change," Shorter told "CBS This Morning" co-host Bianna Golodryga.

That change turned into a career. He joined Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers in 1959. 

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Tokyo 1961 by Tadeus Jazz on YouTube

But he was frequently asked to join another group, with legendary trumpet player Miles Davis.

"The first job was at the Hollywood Bowl," he recalled. "I walked into the dressing room – Miles was there, and he asked me, 'Do you know my music?' I said really quick, 'Yea!' He said, 'Uh oh!'"

Miles Davis - Live In Rome 1969 Wayne Shorter Chick Corea Etc by YJ C on YouTube

The quintet would go on to become one of the most influential jazz groups ever assembled. 

Golodryga asked, "How much did you learn from [Davis], and how much did he learn from you?"

"We learned to leave each other alone," Shorter replied. "When you play with Miles, you are on your own, and then it's you who decides what to contribute."

Later, Shorter started the world's first jazz fusion band, Weather Report:

Weather Report - Birdland by jnerrot on YouTube

He also formed his own quartet (The Wayne Shorter Quartet), and collaborated with renowned musicians like Carlos Santana:

Carlos Santana And Wayne Shorter - Apache (Live) - Supernatural Tour 2003 by Orbs2009 on YouTube

Burt his life has also been marred with tragedy. His second daughter passed away in her teens, and his wife and niece were later killed in the crash of TWA Flight 800 while on their way to visit him overseas.

"Her life was bigger than the accident," Shorter said in 1996. 

He told Golodryga, "When my wife Anna Maria died, what I got from this was moving inside me. I was feeling her, feeling her say, 'Go on, keep writing, keep playing, go on.'"

That's exactly what he's done.

Wayne Shorter,Cher,Reba McEntire,Philip Glass,Thomas Kail,Lin-Manuel Miranda,Andy Blankenbuehler,Alex Lacamoire
2018 Kennedy Center honorees, front row from left, Wayne Shorter, Cher, Reba McEntire, Philip Glass; and back row from left, the co-creators of "Hamilton," Thomas Kail, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Andy Blankenbuehler and Alex Lacamoire appear on stage during the 41st Annual Kennedy Center Honors at The Kennedy Center on Sunday, Dec. 2, 2018, in Washington.  Greg Allen

While he's performed for large audiences around the world, one of his most memorable concerts was a more private gig: President Barack Obama's 50th birthday.

"Before we played, Barack Obama, president, he introduced Herbie [Hancock] and myself, and he said that when he was in college, that we were the soundtrack of his life," Shorter said.

Golodryga said, "That must have felt special."

"Yeah!"

Now in his mid-80s, Shorter is diving even deeper into his Buddhist faith, and practices with his wife of nearly 20 years, Carolina. 

He's also embarking on a new challenge: composing an opera with Esperanza Spalding, set to open in 2020.

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Composer Wayne Shorter is preparing an opera he's co-written with jazz bassist Esperanza Spalding. CBS News

Spalding was one of the artists who paid tribute to him at the recent Kennedy Center Honors, when she said. "Thank you for taking us beyond the known stratosphere."

Golodryga asked, "You're 85, you're still working, your best work may still be yet to come. But what are you most proud of today?"

"Someone asked Duke Ellington, they said, 'What's your favorite song?' He said, 'The next one!'" Shorter laughed.       

      
See more on this year's Kennedy Center Honorees:

      
Watch the Kennedy Center Honors December 26 at 8 p.m. ET / 7 p.m. CT on CBS
  

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