So says former Outback "Survivor" Jeff Varner. And he's not talking about his fellow castaways. He's talking about cheerleaders.
On Thursday, the CBS Early Show caught up with the former college cheerleader while he was attending the 2001 Chick-Fil-A National Cheer and Dance Championship.
Many of his comments about the sport of cheerleading - yes, today cheerleading is considered a real sport - could also be said for his experiences in the Outback.
"They want to win. They are focused, cut-throat, evil people out here sometimes, when it comes to winning. I used to be one of them," he said.
Varner started his "cheering career" at Appalachian State University in the mountains of North Carolina and then transferred to the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.
"This sport is so addictive that you get so caught up in what's going on, you really focus on nothing else."
Varner was returning to the national cheering championship for the first time in 10 years. In 1986, as co-captain, his squad won the competition, and he later returned as coach.
At the competition he ran into his former college coach, Don Collins who spilled the beans on Varner. "He actually could cheer, which is a good thing. And he always had to be front and center because he thought he looked good," Collins joked of his former squad member.
© MMI Viacom Internet Services Inc. All Rights Reserved