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The Spymaster: Meir Dagan on Iran's threat

March 11, 2012 4:01 PM

In a rare interview, ex-chief of Mossad Meir Dagan speaks out against a preemptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities anytime soon. He says the Iranian regime is rational in its own way. Lesley Stahl reports.

The Spymaster: Meir Dagan on Iran's threat
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by Heroic-Mossad-Men March 13, 2012 1:22 AM EDT
Pride:

There is too much gloating, especially when one can use the channel without anyone to counter your point of view on air.
Teseby Ashkolov can speak - or not any more - volumes of the professionalism that Dagan spoke off. I am sure the killing three faculty members of physics department of an Iranian university is much more daring than having the organizer of the opponent's assassination team trip on his own magnetic bomb "by accident", as it happened to the Mossad's deputy.
http://www.asian-defence.net/2012/02/car-explosion-kills-israels-mossad.html
My sincere condolences to the family of the deceased and his colleagues.
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by mijomar-2009 March 12, 2012 9:16 PM EDT
In most professions one's success is publically welcomed and sought after. In this instance, publicity is personally lifethreatening and one must be comfortable with total annominity but a quiet sense of self satisfaction.
That alone is quite an accomplishment and a sign of great personal strength.
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by jackincols March 12, 2012 6:43 PM EDT
I've watched 60 Minutes since its inception and this was one of the most fascinating interviews I've watched. Great job, Lesley. Could've watched much much more of this compelling man.

And, no, I don't think his interview was "sour grapes" to get back at those that wanted him gone.
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by ANONTDH March 12, 2012 11:25 AM EDT
Zionism has created "rivers of blood," Rabbi Weiss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUppu2OHVTY

When Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, visited Washington last week on the eve of the Purim holiday, he gave Barack Obama, the US president, what he considered a symbolic gift - a copy of the old testament book of Esther.??Netanyahu called it "background reading on Iran", since its story concerns relations with Jews in the Persian empire some 2,500 years ago.
It is considered by scholars to be mostly fiction, but for Netanyahu Esther represented justification for his stance against modern Iran.
"Israel must reserve the right to defend itself. And after all that's the very purpose of the Jewish state. To restore to the Jewish people control over our destiny," Netanyahu said.??But Netanyahu's controversial reading of history, even his fight to preserve the state of Israel, are questioned by many of Judaism's own religious authorities.??"This is against the will of the Almighty and this is not what it means to be a Jew," says Jewish religious scholar Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, a spokesman for "Jews against Zionism", who believes that Israel as a state is not legitimate. He says that Zionism has created "rivers of blood" and he opposes the occupation of Palestine.
On the threat from Iran and President Ahmadinejad he says: "He gives charity to Jewish communities and he says one thing: he has a problem with the oppression of the Palestinian people. And the words "wipe out" he constantly says that Iran doesn't have a history and he is not talking about harming anybody he says that God will not allow this crime to happen. We concur with him that Jews are in danger because there is Zionism because it says in the Tora if you rebel against God, it will not be successful and there will be catastrophic results and Zionism has brought catastrophic results and it could be much worse."
Today on Talk to Al Jazeera Weiss explains why Zionism and Judaism are not necessarily the same thing.

Source:
Al Jazeera
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by tloreo March 12, 2012 9:58 AM EDT
As much as I believe Mr Dagan is very serious in what he's saying, it is not for the reasons he states. This gentleman, as a past (possibly present) master of deception in Mossad, is part of the Israeli tactic to muddle any form of speculation on when it will strike at Iran's nuclear heart.

If the Iranians and Americans listen and believe what Mr. Dagan is saying, they will be less likely to expect an immediate or impending Israeli strike. After all, which Israeli or American leader would believe that the ex Chief of Mossad would not be listened to and therefore take some time to consider his stated position. The primary source for the sentiment of Israel to not strike is coming from the Mossad's ex (possibly still current)master of manipulation.

My sense is, he is deliberately coming forward with these sentiments publicly in order to help pause the thought (of Obama, Ahmadinejad and the Iranian Mullahs) that an Israeli strike is imminent, just before it is initiated.

The coming two to four weeks will tell.
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by drtom9876 March 12, 2012 9:54 AM EDT
What is the Mossad ex-chief's name? Neville Chamberlain Avi?
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by Transatlantique March 12, 2012 8:18 AM EDT
The patriarchal religions of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism will destroy our world as we know it. They could possibly wipe out the human race with their superstitious bickering and macho nonsense. What a bunch of selfish morons to fulfill their own prophecies, whilst ignoring the conscience of the rational person who doesn't buy into their backward ways. Let them hopefully destroy each other before they kill everyone else.
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by ANONTDH March 12, 2012 8:12 AM EDT
Zionism has created "rivers of blood," Rabbi Weiss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUppu2OHVTY

When Binyamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, visited Washington last week on the eve of the Purim holiday, he gave Barack Obama, the US president, what he considered a symbolic gift - a copy of the old testament book of Esther.??Netanyahu called it "background reading on Iran", since its story concerns relations with Jews in the Persian empire some 2,500 years ago.
It is considered by scholars to be mostly fiction, but for Netanyahu Esther represented justification for his stance against modern Iran.
"Israel must reserve the right to defend itself. And after all that's the very purpose of the Jewish state. To restore to the Jewish people control over our destiny," Netanyahu said.??But Netanyahu's controversial reading of history, even his fight to preserve the state of Israel, are questioned by many of Judaism's own religious authorities.??"This is against the will of the Almighty and this is not what it means to be a Jew," says Jewish religious scholar Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, a spokesman for "Jews against Zionism", who believes that Israel as a state is not legitimate. He says that Zionism has created "rivers of blood" and he opposes the occupation of Palestine.
On the threat from Iran and President Ahmadinejad he says: "He gives charity to Jewish communities and he says one thing: he has a problem with the oppression of the Palestinian people. And the words "wipe out" he constantly says that Iran doesn't have a history and he is not talking about harming anybody he says that God will not allow this crime to happen. We concur with him that Jews are in danger because there is Zionism because it says in the Tora if you rebel against God, it will not be successful and there will be catastrophic results and Zionism has brought catastrophic results and it could be much worse."
Today on Talk to Al Jazeera Weiss explains why Zionism and Judaism are not necessarily the same thing.

Source:
Al Jazeera
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by bakulaji March 12, 2012 3:36 AM EDT
I wish all a great success. Personally, I do not like war mongering Neo-Cons. However, I cannot deny them their fundamental rights, either. The question, right now, as of today, March 12, 2012, is who is manipulating the public, Oops, US public opinion?

I would have gladly inserted in this sentence, bad words. I am famous for that senility.

Both, is the answer.

Let's pray, being a month of lent, and all, that we will care for all Americans, first but would not consider American (nuclear deterrent policy) as a Manna from heaven.

Almighty God did not create (the concept) of destruction, barring some non-Cristion gods, which in the spirit of lent, I shall not name.

...and I am Sid Harth@mysistereileen.com
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by okanaganorchardist March 12, 2012 2:54 AM EDT
Up until now, the United States has never attacked a country that has had nuclear capabilities --although, if you believe other writers, it has certainly not restrained other countries from doing so.
Unfortunately for Isreal, the United States, which has a lot of companies working in the oil industries of the Middle East, is attempting to instigate a war between Isreal and Iran. If, indeed, Iran has nuclear missiles, the US would never attack it itself. It would leave it up to other countries to do so. In my opinion, both Iran, though sometimes rather brash, and Isreal, realize that it would be stupid and irresponsible to set off a third world war, which would be the end of both countries.
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