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Who are "sovereign citizens"?

May 15, 2011 4:58 PM

Anti-government U.S. extremists who don't pay taxes and ignore requirements like social security cards and drivers licenses are on the rise. Called sovereign citizens, some have become violent and the FBI considers them a domestic terror threat. Byron Pitts reports.

Who are "sovereign citizens"?

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by OddesE February 25, 2013 2:41 PM EST
"Who are "sovereign citizens"?

Anti-government U.S. extremists"

Oooh can't wait to watch this obviously totally unbiased episode.
Extremists... That's the last stop before the 'we know have the right to apprehend, detain and even kill you without due process' label: terrorists.

"the FBI considers them a domestic terror threat."

Wow that was fast!

'Them'? They have membership cards now? Probably they are associated with Al Quaida? Sad state the US is in these days. Wake up people! Everyone disagreeing with the government seems to be a terrorist these days. How convenient that that term is so ill-defined. The government can make up what it means as they go along!

At least pretend to be objective by delaying the inevitable to somewhere near the end of the show, instead of already calling them terrorists in the introductory text.
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by mindsdesire1 March 16, 2012 5:26 PM EDT
When the people FEAR their GOVERNMENT there is TYRANNY, When the GOVERNMENT FEARS its PEOPLE their is LIBERTY - Thomas Jefferson

Some people have had enough! Being pushed around living in a police state, and living in a country that has fallen away from its ideals. This country was founded through acts of so called "Terrorism" and the founding fathers where the "Terrorists" of their day. Loosing the ability to protest is the final straw for most Americans. And when we can no longer speak out against our government then what are we? When each of us as individuals no longer have the right to voice our opinions in a public setting then what are we?


History has proven that the only real catalyst for change has come through the acts of violence. Death hits us all on a subconscious level, it is cold it is real and frankly it gets results. Without the revolutionary war there would still be tyranny. We are at a tipping point. Police brutality towards protesters should not go unchecked, the violence will breed violence, and now that we have been denied the right to protest in general that only leaves one option.

This CBS news report was all B.S, nothing of substance was provided from either side and they didn't touch on any issues surrounding what Americans have grown concerned with.

I am willing to fight today, to build a better tomorrow for my children's generation.
All Governments fail, All machines become broken, all i want for the American people to do is a little bit of maintenance. And the easiest way to do that is by showing an interest in what the government is doing, get involved, and if need be defend what our founding fathers fought so hard to achieve by replicating the acts of terror that they used to build our once proud nation (if necessary). THEY MUST FEAR US
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by FIRE_ELEMENTAL March 14, 2012 9:14 AM EDT
(part two of two/read my next post down first then this one) Sleight of hand is starting a fight (real or by two in collusion with one another) to draw attention from a place and put it on the fight, it is setting off bombs to divert attention from the secret and onto the bomb, and it is creating a movement and rallies to get people involved in protesting things that the protested don't care about anyway and this is to take your eye away from the ball while securing the real secrets. Media (media being an outlet for information) truth and lies and manufactured information will get tougher and tougher to discern as we become more easily available to information, because of the disinformation schemers and orchestrators with their interests set on hiding certain knowledge from everyone (and knowledge is greater in power than money). The few are the one's smart enough to not be led into misinformation and believe we are smart when we are getting fooled by the secret keepers (gate keepers). The matrix isn't our reality when shone by truth; it is the world of propaganda compartmentalized and pulled over your eyes. All of the ones in this Sovereignty movement that tell everyone else to wake up, need themselves to wake up. You've been taken for a ride and it is now TIME to receive the truth as long as you will find your way to it. The norm are lead astray by common things such as TV, entertainment, books, limited educational facilities, tasty food and drink, alcohol and drugs, busy working to buy the finer things and so on. Some of the ones that are a bit more ambitious need something else like Sovereignty propaganda to keep their minds racing on. The groups in charge of keeping the life changing secrets from us are always on the verge of getting exposed and they work overtime and do not take a day off to keep you from the secrets; they've been at the job for a very long time. I believe that their time is now up and the secrets will no longer be kept, because as they are now finding out; they can fool a few with an ingenious deception plot like the Sovereignty movement, but they haven't been able to fool us all with their junk science. We are now becoming far too skeptical of things than the brilliant minds can manufacture their disinformation to contrive us from honest knowledge. So you want to save the planet Sovereign Citizens? You might start by stop getting fooled by the Gate Keepers. Everyone knows that groups such as corporations and governments keep secrets and there is little wrong with that when the corporation owns the rights to a secret that makes them money and nothing wrong when a government keeps some secrets that are of national security. But secrets about life and humanity should not be kept in the meaning to deceive others as a sole purpose of deception. On a final note; we must treat these Sovereign terrorists as the traitorous threat that they are until their minds can be cured of its disease; as the principles that they enact have their roots in our enemies propaganda used to destroy our nation and "re-balance" (the "un-balance" that they have caused) it with the take-over by the victors and we must not allow that to happen by all means necessary.
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by FIRE_ELEMENTAL March 14, 2012 9:04 AM EDT
The propaganda of the newest wave building home grown terrorists in the name of patriotism brought to you by Sovereign conspiracy theories promoting individual Sovereignty for persons emerging into real-time media and instant access to information freely available in our current era is being brought to you via the popular Sovereign guru's by a very secret group of beings who neither have names as individuals nor as a group for record; One could think of them as the NAMELESS ONES. Also by the way this false line of reasoning despite what the Sovereign Citizen is taught is nothing new at all and in fact has been morphing for decades. The propaganda being introduced by the group is so intriguing and opportunistic in its nature that many are blinded into believing that it is based on real substance that make it true and workable. They know men and women want to be kings and queens with unlimited availability of substance. They know you need somebody to blame for the woes of your self-perceived unproductive lives and they know the easy target is government and blue blood bankers, because so many of us have lost our sense of right and wrong (morals) whereby envy and greed drive men to cast guilt against those more successful than himself. The people who are out to destroy our country are the ones teaching these schizophrenic forums to the uninitiated of moral right and wrongs, whereby creating monsters like the Sovereign Citizen who is brainwashed and schizophrenic through teachings of our enemies. There is now and has been for many years projects that happen here that officially do not exist; some are always on the verge of being openly exposed for any to see. Information is getting hard to suppress; so rather than try so hard to suppress it, they just flood the information superhighway with projects like the Sovereign Citizen to draw attention away from their underground work and onto these other things that they know people will spend all of their information research time on instead of their secrets. Real secrets do not have the exposure that the Sovereignty movement has or it is no longer a secret and it is no secret that the Sovereign Citizen propaganda is junk science and a huge waste of time. (part one of two)
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by trend_observer March 10, 2012 5:37 PM EST
Here is the real issue: the US Constitution (supposedly the highest law in the land and that which guarantees certain freedoms and rights to individuals) is being usurped by the minions within the Rothschild Cartel, so that they may set up their tyrannical New World Order. All who are opposed to the current lawlessness of the Cartel's goal for planetary oppression and domination are being vilified to the general public by the Rothschild Cartel's corporate media (prostitute) mouthpieces. Yet, God told us all these things would come to pass. Those who resist the Cartel's establishment of their N.W.O. will be crushed by them, for they are destined to take over the world and make everyone worship the beast (the Antichrist) or die. Only the return of Jesus Christ will be powerful enough to stop this. However, self-willed, independent men who hate this truth will align themselves on one side or the other to do battle (with both sides likely claiming God's authority and quoting the Bible {out of context} for their cause to justify their slaughter of one another). Perhaps the real question that people should be asking here is this: Does a man possess his own soul??? We are eternal creatures with a very brief physical existence that simply expresses where we would like to spend the rest of our future. For those who are open minded enough to examine the evidence for the true and big picture of what all this means and how it will all pan out go to: Truth and Life (dot) US.
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by FIRE_ELEMENTAL February 17, 2012 10:16 PM EST
I know what the common sovereign wants and war is his only option, but what will he have won if he wins? Does he really want to live under the law of the jungle after enjoying all of the comforts of the law of the land? What would happen if all of these sovereigns actually got what they wished for? A hand full of gold or a hand full of ****?
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by Coleyounger7 January 25, 2012 6:22 PM EST
Typical government tactics..Make everyone a terrorist and have the media back them with propaganda (FCC licenses on the line ya know) Instead of escalating the anger and violence (which the government is more violent than its citizens) why doesn't the government agencies meet it head on by debunking the claims and theories? Could it be they can't?

I to have been investigating this movement, looking at theories and claims. Maybe 60 minutes can answer why, on every check (personal checks as well) issued by any bank that the signature line is not a line at all...instead its micro print of words..Look at it yourselves if you think I am full of BS. I used a magnifying glass and where I can not make out what words are written, clearly there are words. Something like authorized and agent. It is issues like this that fuel movements. Why is it banks do this? Maybe for security, maybe for something else, I don't know. Someone in the media could easily find out and debunk or explain the reason. At this time, it is being used to fuel the sovereign citizens movement. Debunk the claims...the media has the resources.
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by Coleyounger7 January 25, 2012 6:21 PM EST
Typical government tactics..Make everyone a terrorist and have the media back them with propaganda (FCC licenses on the line ya know) Instead of escalating the anger and violence (which the government is more violent than its citizens) why doesn't the government agencies meet it head on by debunking the claims and theories? Could it be they can't?

I to have been investigating this movement, looking at theories and claims. Maybe 60 minutes can answer why, on every check (personal checks as well) issued by any bank that the signature line is not a line at all...instead its micro print of words..Look at it yourselves if you think I am full of BS. I used a magnifying glass and where I can not make out what words are written, clearly there are words. Something like authorized and agent. It is issues like this that fuel movements. Why is it banks do this? Maybe for security, maybe for something else, I don't know. Someone in the media could easily find out and debunk or explain the reason. At this time, it is being used to fuel the sovereign citizens movement. Debunk the claims...the media has the resources.
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by ohLucifer January 2, 2012 2:01 AM EST
For the record - I think the Jerry and Joe Kane was an FBI set up. It was a scripted "reality docu drama". The other 3 who were busted for liens on judges, another FBI setup "docudrama". Notice you never really see the cop actually shot. Alfred Adask is spot on. This 60 Minutes segment was designed to discredit sovereigns, and assert that men are animals and can be used abused slaughtered and harvested. The woman is an idiot.
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by Whynot23 December 13, 2011 6:59 PM EST
The heavy set female in this video is for lack of a better word a "robot" . I've been looking into this myself on my own at first I also thought all of this to be hob wash but once I stared researching law and history, Man the things I found would absolutely **** off the masses. People really need to do there own research, starting with Blacks Law Dictionary and go from there. For the record I will say this the government are certified thieves, extortionist,con men etc... The judges and prosecutors are committing treason daily. The masses are programed and need to get "unplugged, but don't take my word for it look it up. Here's a starting point artificial person look at what other words go with it in a law dictionary. One more thing when the powers that be do there jobs then they won't have to worry about violence. Look at history thing's of that nature tend to happen when you abuse your authority . Ex. The French Revolution....
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