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60 Minutes, 11.01.09

November 1, 2009 5:00 PM

Scott Pelley reports on the H1N1 flu vaccine; Lara Logan reports on a member of Japan's mafia; Plus, Lesley Stahl on movie pirates, costing Hollywood billions in lost revenue

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by DanJ01 November 10, 2009 8:12 PM EST
I have to say I found the "movie pirates" story to be nothing more than propaganda for the MPAA. Not only was the story completely one sided, but it was obviously put together by someone who knows little to nothing about the technology being discussed in the piece.

First of all, I believe the broad use of the word "pirate" grossly mischaracterizes the issue. The people who are illegally recording other's work, then selling it for profit are pirates. People downloading movies online are thieves. Every business in the world has theft, yet I can think of no other business that is able to swing the power that the MPAA has to change law, be granted access to vast amounts of private data, and so on, in the attempt to minimize its theft.

The segment on "gee-whiz computer technology called BitTorrent" demonized something that is merely a protocol for sending information, and has nothing to do with people using it to move pirated data. The BitTorrent protocol is used in many industries where moving large files is necessary, not to mention the fact that all internet data is sent in broken down discrete packets that are reassembled by the accessing computer.

In the discussing the "billion" of lost revenue, there was no mention of the fact that the movie industry is more profitable now that at any point in history.

Soderbergh's comments that movie pirates are hurting the low-paid crew members were met with no rebuttal? So the MPAA has enough profit to travel around the world and lobby governments to enact things like the three-strikes rule, but not enough to continue to employ low-payed film crew members?

Which brings me to my biggest complaint of the piece - the casual nature with which the French three-strikes rule was presented as a positive. This is a highly controversial law that the MPAA has attempted to get through many governments around the world, and has thus-far only been successful in France (and even their it took several tries and vetos). The way this law gives the MPAA the power of cop, jury, and judge is unprecedented, and has been largely fought against around the world, by both individual groups, as well as ISP's who are being forced to spend time and resources to allow this one industry the ability to fight theft. And with the MPAA's current attempt to get the three-strikes rule incorporated into the ACTA internet standards, this issue is one that warrants a lengthy discussion where appropriate, but certainly a balanced one whenever mentioned, rather than this purely positive portrayal.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/11/hollywoods-antipiracy-charm-offensive-has-fcc-in-crosshairs.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/leaked-acta-internet-provisions-three-strikes-and-
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by ElPhantasmo November 10, 2009 5:59 PM EST
On Piracy:

If they probably would not have made "The Matrix" today because of the internet, then why were both were "Transformers" movies , "Harry Potter" sequels, anything Disney's involved in and many other movies get made? The copyright holders need to have control their material before it gets to the internet. Watermark the digital screener media. Put out rewards for convictions of people caught recording in theaters; I bet those guys rollover pretty easy on the real pirates bosses. Those guys with the camcorders are the worst, followed by the people who get their hands on screeners. Notice how the war on drugs doesn't hurt the dealers at the top controlling and organizing everything, it mostly allows people at the bottom to continually get arrested and the illegal product continues to flow.

There are many cliches for this: Cut the head off the snake means the eliminate top players and kill the system; Head them off at the pass means find where they meet/travel that creates a pinch point to easily prevent their spread/distribution. I can't think of a cliche for dealing with a problem quickly and effectively that involves starting with many, many infringing parties at the end of a network.
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by nosnafus November 4, 2009 4:24 PM EST
Remember back in 1979 when you were wildly misinformed about piracy, and your propaganda piece with Valenti reflected that? How embarrassing that must have been for you!

Fast-forward 30 years later...

Wow. Three decades to do your homework on this issue, and you've set yourselves up for ridicule once more. Clearly failing to grasp the vast difference between piracy online vs. pirated physical merchandise, failing to understand software that has existed since 2001, and failing to include even one example of a counterpoint in your story.

Enjoy your slippery slope to irrelevancy. You are to journalism what Fox is to news.
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by bassekaka November 2, 2009 5:33 PM EST
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x46qvy_60-minutes-on-video-piracy-1979-par_shortfilms
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by bassekaka November 2, 2009 5:12 PM EST
It's amazing how one sided the piracy story is. I would call this MPAA-propaganda. 60 minutes just lost all my respect by not taking this story seriously.
Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-copyright

SAVE THE INTERNETS!
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by skyowner November 2, 2009 5:08 PM EST
OK. I usually don't comment on stories, and I have to say, 60 Minutes is one of the best factual programs on TV today.

However, please, when discussing computer issues, get someone who has at least actually used these technologies before. Lesley Stahl is very talented, but not the right person for this item. BitTorrent is not some kind of magic, it's simply a very intelligent little bit of software.

However, that's beside the case, since you are mixing up two different issues here. There's the Mexican-drug-cartel type of pirating, which involves selling DVDs of someone else's work on the street. That is completely wrong and should not be condoned in any way.

The problem I have with this item is that this type of pirating, which has serious consequences, is being mixed up with the average Joe type of 'pirate', who downloads the occasional movie or music album. This is mostly a victimless crime, since in most cases, these people would not have bought this movie.

The movie industry should think of another approach of appealing to these people. Because really, people do care, nobody watches a cam-rip for fun. If they make sure that nothing of higher quality than a CAM is leaked before the DVD/Blu-ray releases, the theatrical revenue will not be hurt, or at most negligibly. Since people who don't even value a movie enough to want better quality than a cam rip, will never pay $10+ to see it in a theater.

So please, MPAA and other relevant institutes, don't crack down on your customers, but show us the advantages of going to the theater, and having the real theater experience, and make it worth our while.
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by sam1012000 November 2, 2009 2:32 AM EST
I agree with the previous poster. No proof was given that anything wrong was committed. The Yakuza member was let in the country legally, got his transplant, and left the country legally. If that was your story, then focus on the government making deals with criminals. Why muddy the waters by citing clearly biased sources with no proof whatsoever that anything wrong was done? If the story was about transplant jumping, how about mentioning Steve Jobs, who got his liver transplant at record pace by registering all over the country, a practice only the very rich can do. Perhaps the producers didn't want to give up their iPods to mention him?
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by bluntfacts November 2, 2009 1:53 AM EST
"all paid cash"

That pretty much explains it. Cash does not care about gender, creed, ethnic origin, or anything else. Cash always works. Being on some so-called "list" doesn't. Some folks won't like reading this. To them, wake up.
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by tooolnut November 1, 2009 10:51 PM EST
I don't care much for Hollywood, anymore, and wouldn't bother to watch movies, even when they're free. It's time consuming and unrewarding to watch fiction, in my opinion. I get all the entertainment viewing experience and education I need by watching the free news documentaries, a few select TV shows, You-Tube videos, and music found on the internet. Who could need anything more? Having Internet service is not free, however, and I would hope that some of our monthly dues can somehow find their way to support the talent that provides the content material.
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by Godsfreyson November 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST
11/1/09

The assumption that control of virus proliferation -whose occurences have predated the arrival of humanity- has awaitied development of a vaccine is ludicrous and another evidence of modern day hubris and pharmaceutical presumpptions and governmental misinformation and misguidance. Nature has been controlling bacteria, fungus and viral agents within the natural environs for ages without vaccines. Several natural anti-viral sources are known requiring no injections for efficacy and do not deteriorate in storage or require refrigeration.

Eggs from fowl raised in congested confined feces ridden environments are themselves prone to be infested with Salmonella bacteria and other debilitating bacterial and viral agents which itself can compromise virus efficacy. There is currently no evidence that people will contract a flu simply because they have not received a vaccine & no evidence vaccines can protect against virus mutations. The specific virus being injected does not protect against a viral varient resulting from viral mutation and redapatation. The virus deactivating agents may pose more longer term danger to health than a mild flu. Persons wanting to obtain information of how to identify and use naturally occurring anti-viral, antibacterial and antifunhal sources should contact capstonepublusblishing@att.net

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by gardenbee November 1, 2009 9:00 PM EST
60 Minutes dropped the ball. The "reporter" who was hired by families who lost a loved one who was higher on the list than the gentleman from Japan was not credible. He is certainly not an unbiased source. What effort was made to get the other side of the story? And the presence of multiple tattoes is not an indication of criminality.
I have always had a lot of respect for 60 Minutes, but it just dropped substantially with that shoddy story.
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