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The Curious Case Of Col. Shue

October 24, 2009 6:45 PM

In Full: An Air Force colonel is killed in a car accident, but his death gives rise to questions and controversy about the bizarre circumstances surrounding the crash. Troy Roberts reports.

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by cegrace15 November 20, 2009 12:21 PM EST
any investigation 101 will tell you follow the money.. and you will get your answers.. if the ex-wife was not investigated because they were already thinking suicide.. there was no way in hell.. they will get their answers....
I feel very bad for the wife.. but I will love to know where these detectives went to school... when different agencies are fighting over a case.. for some reason the person responsible for it.. gets lucky? my suggestion to the wife? take it to the federal agency? and send a lot of letters to the Obama?s office, your congressman.. and so on..?
and this thing that someone can have a life insurance over your head... is insane...
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by elfnday November 18, 2009 2:53 AM EST
I am pretty sure I heard them say the Dr. that Tracy hired say there were no puncture marks in his skin and even if there were there still wasn't enough to have an anesthetic effect. This case was a mess from the beginning and how anyone could think the ex-wife didn't have something to do with it needs to go back to forensic school. What kind of wife would get divorced from a man, marry another man, and still want to hold on to a million dollar life insurance policy that's held on her ex-husband? I'll tell you what kind of woman, a greedy one. And greedy, money hungry women will do anything to get what they want despite the reprocussions it has on anyone else. She had the opportunity to clear her name and she didn't, and how strange that he puts a deposit on their house the day before he dies. The ex was a sex therapist and he has his nipples removed and duct tape on his wrists and ankles. What kind of person would think to do that!? Possibly a person that teaches that kind of sick sex. It is very sad that these peons hold the positions they do and can't see that. And I know first hand that the armed forces will go out of their way to cover things up that they don't want making the armed forces look bad. Totally sounds like a homicide and the killer is out spending her ex-husbands million dollar life insurance policy knowing she got away with it, and to a man that served our country for 26 years. Totally whacked! just crazy!
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by blue_nino November 9, 2009 4:18 PM EST
not a suicide to me
i think it was a murder but the question is how it was done ..thats the mystery
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by blue_nino November 6, 2009 9:08 PM EST
its really a mystery
but its a murder to me
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by grlshavetrux November 5, 2009 10:10 PM EST
Lidocaine is not only used for topical anesthesia, but can also be used in cardiac arrest situations as intravenous medication. I wonder if anyone checked his skin for puncture wounds to see if this medication was injected into his skin. This sounds like a homicide to me!
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by Iron_Rod November 5, 2009 3:20 AM EST
As a Gulf war veteran that suffers PTSD from cleaning up friendly fire durring Desert Storm while in the Army. I became a Navy deep-sea diver shortly being released from active duty army during the early out period post Desert Storm. The period of separation was one of the most traumatic events of my life. Life living in the Seattle area was very rough on me. I ground my teeth every night for weeks on end. I ended up back on active duty though as a Navy salvage diver stationed in Roosevelt Roads Naval Station from 1996 to 1999. In 1997 a ferry boat sunk off the coast of Haiti where 270 beautiful people lost their lives in 130 feet of water. Our unit, Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit II Detachment Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico, deployed a week and half after the triple steel deck ferry boat sank in 86 degree F water. I was part of a team that salvaged the people, all the way to the lowest holds. Salvage operations lasted two weeks.

The people below where locked in the lower hold to maintain center of balance. The people top side rushed to the outboard side as the boat performed a 180 degree into the steep shore line to offload passengers by hired hand carriers. While turning around for approach the boat flipped and most onboard drowned, some most died inside and some died because they could not swim 170 feet to shore.
The story is not about me but about what happens after pulling up so much of societies load that your armor cracks and you realize you are not the super hero and unwind hard. Most people make it through this process with it being a minor blip in one?s life but if you push it a bit too far - well you know the results of such action. No round II. \\

This is why we have forgiveness, so as to go on till our next mistake. As we age past our nightmare in the right healthy environment a service member may begin the Stand Down from the Watch.

My psychiatrist took in a lot of garbage day in and day out. It does take a toll on ones soul.

I do not know what happened for fact or even can guess what had happen, the facts can be used to support either side. As a mentally wounded Veteran myself I can say there could be more to the mental side then one wants to believe in.

I know firsthand that people will kill other people for little to nothing. You need more and or stronger proof at this point in the case for who done it. This looks more like a David Carradine scene gone bad. David didn?t plan to kill himself. David had a kink in in his step that didn?t straighten out.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/05/crimesider/entry5066136.shtml

What I would focus on was what was the treatment the mental health doctors provided to the Doctor. Really look at the medications he was on or prescribed. I bet he was on some sort of SSRI like Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft or it goes by many more names. This stuff takes down the last bit of stick togetherness one has left of one?s self. You hear of the labels not to give this to children for it can cause suicidal or homicidal actions. This applies to adults, especially if they were victimized in their youths. A person can develop a sense of not being protected by those that were supposed to protect them or their other family member. Top that off with all the pressures of combat, family, active duty and the unassuredness of the future without the military and or the lack of post medication supervision. Once a patient goes on this medicine they need a safe place to land.

If there is an external pressure being applied - like being a target ? (the fine Doctor had every right to fear for his life with a million dollar bounty from a crazy ex-wife but it sounds like the Doctor probably had a real kink in his walk from his running with his first wife. She probably was afraid his kink might get to tight and die and blame it all on her. I likely doubt it though. But the doctor more than likely has a past in this personal past time / hobby. It just may have gone a bit too far.

What concludes me to believe the Doctor took his own life is that he had a premonition of being killed in an auto accident with a tree of something to that effect. People telegraph what they are fixating on before final action. Two, the doctor used the first two exits to get his alignment. He hit the tree exactly were he aimed. Cars do not drive themselves. The duct tape was part of the final show both internally, in his mind, and externally, for cover if it didn?t work.

The Doctor should be ruled suicide with full military honors, caused of death: POST-TRAMADIC STRESS DISORDER, 100 PERCENT SERVICE CONNECTED.

To the family, I deeply feel the pain and loss of such a beautiful person that gave his all for all of us.

Sincerely for your loss,

Tim Moles ? Oregon State

GOD Rest His Soul - AMEN
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by jbrauthor November 4, 2009 1:43 PM EST
FIrst of all, lets stipulate that this was clearly not a suicide as dictated by Shue's plan to move into a new house in the next few days. A man so full of life and who has an adoring wife is not going to kill himself knowing how that would hurt his wife.

(1). What stupid divorce judge would grant an ex spouse to maintain
a life insurance on their former husband? Is this the stupid
policy in Kendall County or did this dumbo judge come to this
agreement on his own?

(2). This was an extraodinarily clever crime that took much planning
and precise execution. We would need to know the results of
this so-called psychological autopsy and what they claim were
the causes of his depression, if it were not due to being
threatened. This would need a federal supoena of course as
the Air Force is not going to risk sounding foolish.

(3). As another astute person mentioned, what happened to the
roll of duct tape that he supposedly taped himself with,
are they going to say Shue threw it out the window?

(4). The duct taping of his legs really tells the story of
happened or what was supposed to happen if the murder plan
went according to plan. The duct tape of course would not
allow Shue to control the car or to put the brakes on.

(5). What is important to know is how close were the two witnesses
to Shue's car when it went into the tree. There could have been
a person on the passenger side of the car steering it, who then
climbed out of the car as soon as it hit the tree and
disappeared into the wooded area. It is difficult to see that
this crime was botched in the way it was carried out, but of
course it may not have gone exactly to the killer's plans.

(6). The injection of the pain killing drug found in his system
makes no sense no matter if it was a suicide or murder, so
was it just subterfuge to cloud things up?

(7). I had originally thought that there was a killer's car
following Shue, who after tying him up let him drive himself
knowing that he would go off the road at a high rate of speed.
The absolute direct hitting of the tree required almost demands
that there may have been someone else in that car with Shue
who steered the car into the tree. Shue's car was not
evidently rammed from behind, so someone had to direct it at
the tree. This murder was too carefully planned to allow any
phase of it to chance.

In conclusion; Tracy needs to push for a Federal investigation.
Most importantly getting the psychological autopsy of the
Air Force released before it can be destroyed under some time
limit retention guise.
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by jstack1106 November 1, 2009 8:22 PM EST
Yet another reason Texas scares the hell out of me! What is it with that state? Can incompetence really be this prevalent and in so many places? We should have let them secede centuries ago. It's astounding that no government officials would want to get to the bottom of this! All I can think of is, wild, wild, west...
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by 123pete58 October 28, 2009 6:26 PM EDT
The ex wife and her husband,Should be checked out,credit card acc,money being moved in there banking acc 6 months prior to accident,I think the ex and her husband had a hit put on him.What about the mechanics of the car such as tie rod ends on steering,was car driven by remote devise,from another car or airplane,I know how crazy it may sound ,But a million dollars is a lot planing and can buy good a professional hit man.I think the killer has military experience,and did not know the victim on a personal level.He was taking orders from higher up???..very fishy
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by crimebuff123 October 27, 2009 6:19 PM EDT
Did anyone consider the nipple injuries to perhaps be part of an S/M ritual of some sort? Maybe this guy had a secret life and he got involved w the WRONG S/Mer that morning or it went to far and he freaked out etc etc...Of all the 48 hrs mysteries, this one has the most unanswered questions of any of them leading me to believe that the govt may want some of this kept quiet.
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by betty289 October 27, 2009 2:31 PM EDT
i would bet money that what happened was that he was abducted and tortured by someone hired by his ex-wife and/or her husband. he either escaped or was released, and in his flight from wherever the torture occurred, he either suffered a seizure(i can't offer a cause) or, more likely, a panic attack. either would explain the loss of control of his vehicle by the winesses and the reason that he did not go to law enforcement or a hospital. panic attacks occur very suddenly and can last from a few minutes to an hour, and can result in a loss of consciousness; having had the experience myself, i can assure you that driving would be very difficult to impossible to do under those circumstances. this scenario would explain the ex-wife's refusal to answer any questions. it would also likely change the cause of death to something more like accidental death, although it occurred as a direct result of the torture inflicted upon him by the unknown person or persons.

i do concede that this is merely speculation, and it may be impossible to prove. i absolutely disagree that it could ever have been a suicide- but it may not quite fit all the criteria of a homicide. wasn't he reported as having panic attacks after receiving the "anonymous" letter? i do hope that Col. Shue's widow continues to search for answers, and that she finds some that will put her mind to rest.

p.s. why the heck is an ex-wife allowed to own so much insurance on her former husband? a million dollars is a heck of a motive to directly or indirectly cause someone's death... that's pretty shady to me.
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by 20sally October 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT
Not to take anything away from this horrible murder of
Col. Shue but we need to look further into this case as for as Kendall County is concerned. Little know facts are there as been several unanswered deaths here.

Probation officer murdered at her home--never solved
Col. Shue (suicide --- I don't think so!)
Headless body found on Guadalupe River
Pizza Hut delivery man murdered ,caught the perps but are still in KC SO after 2 yrs not on TRIAL yet!!!
Young man here on internship working at ranch for college shot in the mouth twice and was called SUICIDE

These are just some that we know of, yet Col. Shue 's death was called suicide, Judge ruled homicide, and this excuse of a Dist Attorney Bruce Currie will not change it. I wonder who told JP White to rule this a suicide because we know she didn't have any education in the medical field. That's another law that needs to be changed. These JP's in the state of Texas do not require any medical background what so ever. We might as well send a pet monkey out on these calls they probably would do a better job.

Bottom line on the case of Col. Shue ---he was murdered--change the death certificate. How hard would that be Mr. DA?
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by drpaterickcallahan October 26, 2009 5:31 PM EDT
I am very interested in the psychological autopsy that was completed on this man. I have been trained in the use of psychological autopsy. If someone has access to this document I would be interested in someone sending me a copy of it for review.

Dr. Patrick Callahan
drpatrickcallahan@yahoo.com
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by virgosal October 25, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
This is another case of sloppy police work, so many unanswered questions, so many unexplained circumstances. The fact remains that, as the judge concluded, the colonel was murdered and it was a case of homicide, not suicide. Whoever killed him knows what he or she had done and will answer to God for it.
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by ColRet October 25, 2009 5:03 PM EDT
Another armchair viewer with some unanswered questions:
1- Why did Col Shue go in to work early? Did his office confirm he was expected early? Missing two hours between departure and crash - self-mutilation doesn't take two hours.
2- If the ex-wife contracted the hit (logical because of alibi), they would want a video -- was their home searched for a video?
3- More likely the col. was lured to a rendezvous, not waylaid on the highway (because he had his keys) - look for a note in his car/pocket.
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by willy2cool October 25, 2009 1:37 AM EDT
As an armchair ***** I would like to make the following comments.

1. Damage to Drivers side of car does not indicate suicide. (As opposed to Front of Car).
2. I believe wearing a seat belt is unusual for suicide.
3. Where is the roll of duct tape that was the source of wrappings?
4. Lots of unanswered questions i.e. was there evidence of duct tape on the steering wheel? and where was the Col. headed when he left home? and where is that compared to the accident scene?
5. If his nipples were removed were they in the car? and was there a cutting instrument in the car?
6. The duct tape on the boots is really weird. What the theory behind that?

Just a few thoughts
Timberwolf8626@msn.com
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