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Taming Terror

May 5, 2009 10:46 AM

What happens when a prisoner is set free from the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo? David Martin goes inside a Saudi Arabian program, which teaches alleged terrorists that Osama Bin Laden is all wrong.

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by laaker May 4, 2009 5:08 PM EDT
Kudos to Mary Walsh and David Martin. This is an excellent piece on the continuing effects of our policy at Gitmo, and the attempts of the Saudis to mitigate those effects. Congratulations on excellent journalism. Thank you.
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by scohen305 May 4, 2009 3:56 PM EDT
We need to learn how to use psychology and the social sciences to create a good society. We need to learn how to incorporate transparency, honesty, fairness and kindness into our social systems and world order. The alternative is the use of the social sciences for human manipulation. America is full of double binds, mixed messages, and manipulative deceptions. Thank Goodness we have a bill of human rights built into our social system. I believe people are as good as the social systems that govern them. Log on to http://www.realworldnewworld.com and http://www.scohen305.blogspot.com for a better America and a better world.
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by RAGGEE May 4, 2009 6:41 AM EDT
It is good that former gitmo detainees have a change of heart for violence against non muslims,but what i dont like is the saudi kingdom authorities saying these guys where tortured and mistreated in gitmo.not that i agree with torture but the saudis? the saudis are the worst most abusive regime on earth when it comes to treating human society.kim jong eel's regime can't even compete with saudi arabia when it comes to torture so please dont let them lecture any american about torture in the future.how they rehabilitate there own kids is there business but how about starting to get rid of the text books in the madrasas that encourage the hate of jews and non muslims?THNXS
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by wagzarus67 May 4, 2009 12:06 AM EDT
Typical biased reporting. Where is the in depth journalism telling the full story? You praise Saudi Arabia's feel good handling of terrorists and so-called rehabilitation while continuing to portray America as a bastion of torture and inhumanity. I like how you show pictures of the terror suspects strapped and hooded on US planes while your footage as supplied by the Saudi's show a nice cushy 747 where they are welcomed. Or how about the one terror suspect that failed to be rehabilitated and was an embarrassment to the Saudi's. You show him with a back brace on, which must have been caused by some harsh American torture technique. How irresponsible to give this perception without explaining why he was in a back brace. He was most likely injured in battle when he was captured and received better care than anywhere else in the world. Sure, his second time through the program made him rehabilitated, so now he is permanently confined to an apartment under siege by the government. Why isn't it emphasized as said at the end that any of these released can become terrorists again and that is why the only sure way to stop repeat acts is for them to be permanently imprisoned. How will any system be able to actually rehabilitate a die-hard terrorist and be able to tell if they are rehabilitated? I'm sorry, but my viewpoint is that you made your choice and you have to pay for it instead of a whole group of innocents dying at the folly at the belief that rehabilitation will work.

Have you investigated the civil rights abuses of the Saudi's lately? Check with the UN and Amnesty International. There is no comparison between our system of justice and the harsh Sharia Law based system they have. By the way, what happened to the 4000 + terror suspects the Saudis rounded up in their raids on suspected Al-Quaida and what "hard" methods were used on them. Gitmo is like the Hilton compared to what they must have endured at the hands of the Saudi's. I seriously doubt many of them are alive anymore anyway. (Have you heard about the recent tape released about the Saudi sheik torturing a local farmer over suspected theft). You focus on the "soft" Care program to rehabilitate the terror suspects and fail to expose their torture methods or horrendous treatment of their people. It is so nice for you to provide a platform where they make Gitmo out as such a harsh prison with the worst methods of torture. I especially like the art therapy program where the Saudi points at a picture and states that it represents Gitmo "probably". You allow a statement like that to go unquestioned? Once again America is the demon. What lead that terror suspect to land himself in Gitmo in the first place? I am sure he was just walking down the street and evil America profiled him and threw him in there.

It is interesting how you start out the whole story also of a rehabilitated Al-Quaida member who fought right with Osama Bin Laden. Of course he is rehabilitated, he had a choice of either being executed or being a spokesperson to promote the feel good Care Program along with being paid off with a car and a house and money for all his needs. This is Saudi Arabia's usual method with terrorism in their country. Pay them off as long as they don't commit terror in their country. Meanwhile, you fail to remind the viewers of the underlying causes of the problems in their country which sprout so much of the new followers into radical Islam. Saudi Arabia itself promotes hatred of the U.S. with its lower classes and immigrant workers to avoid them actually targeting the system there that creates the injustice and horrendous abuses of their society. America is once again a nice scapegoat for them and you help them to promote that ideology with stories like this.
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by Sonof9Ravens May 3, 2009 10:43 PM EDT
What a ridiculously one-side "report" on the Saudi rehablitation program - a 90% success rate, as your reporter acknowledges, is painted as a failure. And your reporter and sources fail to apply the same standards to the "success rate" of the American torture operation at Guantanimo, Cuba. Further, in examining the hijackers of 9/11, your "report" blithely glides over the fact that at least 7 of the "hijackers" are actually still alive, as reported seven years ago by the BBC:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

Shame on you, 60 Minutes, for continuing to spin the misrepresentations and outright untruths created by the Cheney-Bush junta...itself an illegal coup d'etat!
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