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Craigslist: Classified For Murder?

April 26, 2009 4:29 AM

In Full: 48 Hours delves into the life of Philip Markoff to uncover how he went from promising young medical student to alleged killer.

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by diana196464 September 18, 2009 12:19 PM EDT
REAL massage professionals don't give hand jobs, blow jobs & sex for outrageous amounts of CASH! Real massage professionals make about $60/hr. and don't touch your private parts, nor DO YOU TOUCH THEIR PRIVATE PARTS!
I AGREE that people need to START CALLING THIS "EROTIC MASSAGE" BUSINESS WHAT IT REALLY IS --- PROSTITUTION!! PROSTITUTION! PROSTITUTION! AND IT'S F'N ILLEGAL! THE COPS SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CRAIGSLIST AND START ARRESTING THESE PROSTITUTES AND CONVICTING THEM FOR PROSTITUTION, AND HAULING THEIR ****** ***** OFF TO JAIL... PROSTITUTES ARE A NUISSANCE AND MENACE TO SOCIETY.
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by MommyFirst May 21, 2009 8:51 PM EDT
lol yikes 101 all I have to say is yikes.........so it's true Aussie's have no morales?

I agree the crime is a crime against phill? not what the VICTIM did for a living.
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by sam-kiley May 8, 2009 4:42 AM EDT
bonjour
j'ai suivi le reportage "48 heures" incroyable, un enchainement d'avénements avant ..pendant et aprés, apparemment on savait ce qui se passait avec ce site"craig list"
mais on laissait faire,..il a fallu un crime..deux..je ne sais trop..l'affaire markoff en particulier et voila queles langues se délient et chacun commence a y mettre du sien..etrange tout cela...au revoir.
mieux vaut **** que jamais....
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by yikes101 May 6, 2009 3:10 AM EDT
sorry 4 doing a dbl post every1.. my browser froze.

also replying to ppl saying why dont i use my skills to work say in economics etc..

well why should i? i believe in living a happy life.. my ex bfs ex wife is a 45 yr old women.. she is a CEO of an international bank and makes 500k+ per yr working as a ceo of a bank.. but guess what?? she looks @ least 55. she puts in 6 days a week.. she works 12 hours per day. SHE HAS 2 KIDS THAT SHE DOESNT SEE. her ex husband./ my bf.. has full custody of their young kids and whenever the kids get upset... they run 2 my bf..and refuse 2 go with their mother. their mother is also overseas 3/4 of the yr and when she is home in australia..

anyway my point is.. even though she probly thinks her life is fullfilling because of her CEO job. she looks terrible... she looks wayyyyy older. @ least 55 and she is 45. and when she is in australia she work 12 hours a day... 9am-9pm.. she doesnt get home till 9pm. i know this because iam also friends with her... and she doesnt have a social life.. for the 5 yrs ive known her and was with my bf.. she has not been out once on a friday or saturday night. when she is out she is at work. i see her life as sad.

anyway my point is.. LIFE IS MEANT TO BE FUN.. WHY THE HELL WORK 24/7 and earn the same amount of money..

i only work between 1-3 days per week. max 3 days per week if i want 2 go shopping. lol. ... max 4 hours per day each time...so some weeks i only work 4 hours per week and some 12. and iam making as much money as ppl who work 40-50 hours per week.

i respect people who work very hard for their money but i think that life should be fun and be made the most of and to be happy. for me happiness is number 1. thats why i love acting stupid n goofing off and acting like a 15 yr old sumtimes when iam not. lol i see that as my life and thats why i do this job. i really enjoy what i do. most of my clients are regulars. i have been seeing about the same 10 clients per week for the last 2 yrs. they dont all have sex with me.. they pay me 2 go on dinner dates with them and even hang out and watch tv. they all see me as a gf kinda. i got 3 marriage proposals from clients. hahaa

in australia its relatively safe because this industry is regulated. we even have to get tested for std's every 3 months. if we missed a std test.. we are not allowed to work in the sex industry and if u caught with something like chlamydia etc u have to finish your treatment before you are able to work again. in australia it is that regulated and its illegal to work without a condom. the law in australia see's it as a normal job. with health regulations and rules and laws. just like any other industry like having to wear a helmet hard hat if you are a construction worker.


also another thing i refuse 2 use craigslist. i see craigslist as a place for amateurs. i do not have an ad online or even an ad in the newspaper.. iam on an agentcy who also screens the clients.

the agency amd all agencies in australia would ask for your landline home phone number and credit card number and i.d if you are calling from hotel they want the direct hotel line phone number to the room. if you pay by cash or credit card when i show up i have to see their credit card and PHOTO i.d and WRITE down their name and I.D number and what kind of i.d it is. i write these down, we also have a driver who waits 15 mins... anyway i then after getting all that information from them...i have to call the agency within 5 minutes of the driver seeing me go inside. i have to call the agency to confirm the i.d and for them to write down the i.d details. THE I'D is for safety reasons only and is nothing more than that. after they have heard from me within 5 minutes of going inside the time of the job starts... the driver still waits outside for 15 minutes and sometimes the whole time of the job. when the time of the job is up... the agentcy would call me 5 minutes after 1 hour is up and if i do not answer the phone within 10 minutes of the job finishing the driver would come check up as in go to the hotel room door and knock.


i have not met anyone violent or had any scary encounters from all this time. just alot of really kinky guys. some r into things that are abit wierd sexually but no one scary or bad. hahaa

i really hope that craigslist and others like it take down the erotic section because its more jobs for me.. yay! lol more guys would call up the agentcies instead if it wasnt 4 craigslist n similar sites. lol

there are even people in the australian police force who were hookers. there was this one woman who got fired from the police force a few years ago for being a hooker.. she sued them for unfair dismissal and ever since then.. so they made a new law protecting hookers from unfair dismissal and job hire ability for other normal jobs.

i hope that america legalises it because it makes it more dangerous when its not legal. girls are going to do it no matter what...
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by yikes101 May 6, 2009 1:48 AM EDT
replying to caintureed, iam not a criminal. I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA WHERE PROSTITUTION IS LEGAL.

in australia prositutes are treated like any other worker in any other field. we get taxed.. YES I PAY MY TAXES as a prostitute. i have an ABN number too. ABN is a registered AUSTRALIAN BUSINESS NUMBER.

i also get free medical treatments..and do not have to pay for medicine. e.g if i get a UTI or thrush.. i do not pay for the treatments.. condoms and lube are also free according to australian law.... it has to be free for sex workers.

the only thing illegal in australia is STREET sex workers... the ones like you see in american movies that stand in the street. thats illegal in australia but iam an escort and also work in a brothel wich both are legal.

i also have a driver if i do escort work to hotels.. the driver waits downstairs outside the hotel for the first 15 minutes.. sometimes if the driver takes me to really far places wich is 1 hour + away the driver would wait outside until i finish.

it is very safe in australia and legal and australia actually has laws protecting prostitutes.
for example... laws on having to give free condoms and lube and treatment to sex workers. also laws on sexual assualt on workers and that a sex worker in australia has the right to refuse service to a client.

one time i did an escort.. the agentcy sent me to a hotel where the guy was a from greece and did not speak english... anyway when i got there with my driver he tried saying he didnt understand that the receptionist said it was $500 per hour and he thought she meant $300 per hour... so guess what? I CALLLED THE COPS.. LOL guess he didnt know... the cops sided with me and i got my $500 and by the time i did his hour is up! LMAO. i thought that was hilarious.

by the way my spelling n grammer is bad because i type like i txt.. i normally type like this.
lyke + like, ****, @=at etc but i know how much ppl in forums etc h8 that i type the way i txt so i spell the whole words out. also i try 2 act like iam 15.. lol i love it when ppl say that actually cos im like yiiippppeee they all think iam younger than iam. lol iam enternally 15. lol i watch cartoons... when i promise ppl things i still say pinky promise.. lol i love elmo... lol all my pj's are elmo and i have a collection of elmo toys. lol my ex bf used to think it was abit freaky cos i'd get excited over cartoons n toy shops.. ahahaa...ohh and fairy floss when we go 2 festivals.. lol haha i love it. thanx for the compliments.
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by yikes101 May 6, 2009 1:42 AM EDT
replying to caintureed, iam not a criminal. I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA WHERE PROSTITUTION IS LEGAL.

in australia prositutes are treated like any other worker in any other field. we get taxed.. YES I PAY MY TAXES as a prostitute. i have an ABN number too. ABN is a registered AUSTRALIAN BUSINESS NUMBER.

i also get free medical treatments..and do not have to pay for medicine. e.g if i get a UTI or thrush.. i do not pay for the treatments.. condoms and lube are also free according to australian law.... it has to be free for sex workers.

the only thing illegal in australia is STREET sex workers... the ones like you see in american movies that stand in the street. thats illegal in australia but iam an escort and also work in a brothel wich both are legal.

i also have a driver if i do escort work to hotels.. the driver waits downstairs outside the hotel for the first 15 minutes.. sometimes if the driver takes me to really far places wich is 1 hour + away the driver would wait outside until i finish.

it is very safe in australia and legal and australia actually has laws protecting prostitutes.
for example... laws on having to give free condoms and lube and treatment to sex workers. also laws on sexual assualt on workers and that a sex worker in australia has the right to refuse service to a client.

one time i did an escort.. the agentcy sent me to a hotel where the guy was a from greece and did not speak english... anyway when i got there with my driver he tried saying he didnt understand that the receptionist said it was $500 per hour and he thought she meant $300 per hour... so guess what? I CALLLED THE COPS.. LOL guess he didnt know... the cops sided with me and i got my $500 and by the time i did his hour is up! LMAO. i thought that was hilarious.

by the way my spelling n grammer is bad because i type like i txt.. i normally type like this.
lyke + like, ****, @=at etc but i know how much ppl in forums etc h8 that i type the way i txt so i spell the whole words out. also i try 2 act like iam 15.. lol i love it when ppl say that actually cos im like yiiippppeee they all think iam younger than iam. lol iam enternally 15. lol i watch cartoons... when i promise ppl things i still say pinky promise.. lol i love elmo... lol all my pj's are elmo and i have a collection of elmo toys. lol my ex bf used to think it was abit freaky cos i'd get excited over cartoons n toy shops.. ahahaa...ohh and fairy floss when we go 2 festivals.. lol haha i love it. thanx for the compliments.
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by caintureed May 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT
ummm, I think ya might need to go back for that last degree there "yikes101" seriously, your grammar and spelling are at best a 10th grade level. And you speak 6 laguages?...really? so, do you screw them up as much as English? I am sure you are just the sweetest hooker on the planet, but hunny before you start to brag to America about what you do, remember that prostitution is still illegal in 49 out of 50 states, so unless you live in Nevada then not only are you a stereotype, but you are also a criminal. If you had the self respect you claim to have you certainly would not be broadcasting your criminal activity across the web for all to see, but maybe thats a pride point for you. If you spoke all the laguages you claim to speak you could be a court translator and work less hours than you do now with more pay, so you go ahead and live in your sweet little dream filled cardboard box and dream! playgirl, dream!
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by Monica7890 May 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
yikes 101.... so you lost your virgity at 18 and became a prostitute right away?
LOL dont you find it gross to have sex with strangers( i bet some of your clients are quite disgusting) for money?
Its your life and im not judging you but you can certainly do better if you are that smart, can speak 6 languages and respect your body by going to the gym
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by alisa71 May 3, 2009 8:09 PM EDT
What is really funny is they say they are smart and educated but have you looked at the spelling in the comments they make, it is absolutely rediculous!!!! And one says they are a teachers aide and speaks 6 laungages, girl, who are you trying to convince here?
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by randakl May 2, 2009 2:54 AM EDT
I find the information about the women and their choice of financial gain irrelivant. The story was about the man who killed an innocent girl. He was doing this for money, I don't think he had a double life.................
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by Ilove48hours April 29, 2009 1:30 AM EDT
I agree 110% wholeheartedly with xtiparis1. He/she made brilliant comments about this episode. To give credit to CBS, I really appreciated the last segment where they introduced us to Julissa's real world and how she was trying to become a counselor, opposite of what other media outlets only informing of her prostitution. The sad thing is that it was the last 5 minutes of this episode, and most people probably where tuning out or getting ready for bed. But yeah, i agree with xtiparis1 and also godsfiddler..CBS rushed too quickly into making this episode (when no trial has even occured)....sad how ratings control & rule TV, even in expense of one's name.
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by j88833 April 28, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
yikes101 if you're so good at all those things like building personal computers, software, speak 6 languages, are a property valuer, stuied 2 years of econ in college, and a certified teaching aid(which i doubt because you can't spell a lot correctly) why the hell are you a prostitute. if you can get a job in any of those fields u mention what kind of idiot are u??? i would say you're just a **** , but u say it's not about the sex . you can do alllllll those things and you choose to be a *****??? are u on meds? you make absolutely no sense at all ....and you can sit there with a straight face and say u respect yourself yet, i mean it's so ridiculous it's actually funny.....you can't be serious, did u write that post as a joke? don't you dare tell us not to judge u for this decision u made just because u wanna make yourself feel better about being a ****.....and just because you didn't have sex until u were 18 doesn't make what u do ok....by a longshot....get real and pop that bubble of denial.
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by musicmama88 April 28, 2009 6:28 PM EDT
Your volume does not work for me on the story but on the commercial it does.
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by Cypressmyst April 27, 2009 10:59 PM EDT
Good for you Yikes101. Not a bad deal if you ask me. :) Prostitution needs to be legalized, it is only sex. Puritan B.S is why it is illegal. Legalize it, tax it, regulate it and leave Craigslist alone!
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by yikes101 April 27, 2009 6:45 PM EDT
for those slandering prostitution and saying this is glamourising it. IAM a prostitute myself. iam 22 and have been one since i was 18. iam very smart.. i dont drink,dont do drugs, look after myself very well. iam also very smart. i build personalised computers.. mostly gaming pcs by myself. i also know how to build softwares, speak 6 languages. japanese,mandarin,malaysian,french, dutch and english. iam also a qualified teaching aid and qualified property valuer and studied 2 yrs of economics in college. just because we chose to be a prostitute desnt mean we dont respect ourselves. i think i respect myself than most of my peers my age. we see what we do as a job. u go in... do ur job and leave and thats it..u forget bout the client and the job. what many people dont understand is we see it as seperate but many ppl who are not in the industry see it as just sex. for me i was a virgin till i was 18. i waited till my first long term bf. i was with him for 6 months before we had sex and in my personal life when i date someone i do not have sex with them for @ least dating them for 6 months. but on the other hand iam a hooker. i see that as a job. how many young people today lose it at 14/15/or 13? i see those people are the ones who dont respect themselves. i also see people who do 1 night stands and sleep round or give in too early to their bfs/partners dont respect themselves because THAT IS SOMETHING PERSONAL. what i do is business.. not personal. personally i respect myself alot. i dont even swear. iam very polite.. a big green thumb and i help and give money to charity as well. i do volounteer work 1 day a week to help sick people. i think ive got a great life. hey i work only 2-3 days per week. a few hours each day and iam getting paid $2000 for a few hours a day for 3 days max. the rest i do what i want.. i mostly build computers and do all the other things. i just hate how when people think of prostitutes they think of really skanky scabby faced drug hoes. i personally when i do to my jobs.. i wear suits. the ones you wear in office work. lol and dont dress skanky at all.. thats actually how i normally dress. i go gym, look after myselfand look healthy. i also see that as another way of self respect. wheres every1's self respect when they get fat and obesed? isnt that harming your own body and not respecting your own body? so i guess you can say that about 80% of america as 80% are fat and obesed and overweight. guess they dont respect themselves enough to look after themselves. anyway unless you have been in the industry i dont think u can judge because u really dont know how it is. we think of it as a business and a job where most of u guys see it as sex and something personal.
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by Jalsw1977 April 27, 2009 5:52 PM EDT
As a massage therapist and massage therapy instructor I find it highly dissappointing that the news media chooses to smoothe over prostitution... There is no such thing as erotic massage!!! I spend hours upon hours educating therapists to go out into the world with an uphill battled started with things like this call a horse a horse calling what these women do massage is a farce! No matter how fast, easy and profitable it is it is still (release)sex for money isn't that prostitution. It makes it really hard to professionalize my field when even the news media doesn't distinguish prostitution from Massage therapy. Allthough these girls make good money doing what their doing, and pay for college and hve what they want is this the message we want to send to our young adults that this is a good way to pay for college or get a car, to sell yourself?????? Lets not glamorize these services or even make them seem like healthy alternatives to working hard for your money at a real job!!!
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by godsfiddler April 27, 2009 4:05 PM EDT
What this ho that's bragging about $1,800 a night, versus someone working a minimum wage job doesn't realize is the one who works a low wage job has earned respect, and respects themselves.
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by godsfiddler April 27, 2009 4:01 PM EDT
I don't believe this gal was as street smart as people say. Street smart don't risk murder by meeting total strangers and going to hotel rooms with them for a few measly bucks.
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by godsfiddler April 27, 2009 3:35 PM EDT
I'm hoping maybe their plan here is for people to learn from this and not make yourself become a statistic, like this gal did, meeting strangers in hotel rooms for sexual type meetings.
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by godsfiddler April 27, 2009 3:30 PM EDT
I think they should wait to do a report on this case until he's either been convicted or found not guilty.
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