Palestinians: No talks without settlement freeze

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas waves to thousands of cheering Palestinians as they welcome their president, Sept. 25, 2011, at his Ramallah headquarters upon his return from delivering a historic U.N. membership bid. / Getty

RAMALLAH, West Bank - The Palestinians can't resume negotiations with Israel under current conditions and will pursue their bid to win U.N. recognition, a top Palestinian official said Thursday, after President Mahmoud Abbas and senior officials reviewed the latest appeal from Mideast mediators to restart talks and reach a deal within a year.

Last week, Abbas asked the U.N. to grant full membership to a state of Palestine in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem, lands Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war. In a turning point for Palestinian diplomacy, Abbas overrode strong objections by the U.S. which, like Israel, argues that a state must arise from negotiations.

Since returning from the U.N., both Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have tried to avoid being blamed for the deepening impasse.

The Palestinians say they can't be expected to negotiate while Israel keeps expanding settlements, thus pre-empting the outcome of a deal. They say they suspect Netanyahu wants talks as a diplomatic shield, but is not interested in reaching a deal.

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Netanyahu alleges the Palestinians are not serious about peace and says he is ready to negotiate at any time. However, the Israeli leader refuses to halt settlement construction or recognize the pre-1967 frontier as a baseline, rejecting internationally backed positions and Palestinian demands.

After the Palestinians' U.N. bid, the Quartet of Mideast mediators — the U.S., the U.N., the European Union and Russia — called for the resumption of talks and a deal within a year. The Quartet statement did not specifically refer to the two Palestinian demands but listed a number of speeches, U.N. resolutions and other documents that contain them.

"Members of the Security Council who want to see the peace process move forward and the early resumption of direct talks between Israel and Palestinians should not be supporting this Palestinian unilateral act," Netanyahu spokesman Mark Regev said.

On Thursday, Abbas consulted with officials from the Palestine Liberation Organization and his Fatah movement on what to do next.

Yasser Abed Rabbo, the secretary general of the PLO, said after the meeting that the Quartet statement contained encouraging elements, but that this is not enough to resume negotiations. The Palestinians are eager to restart talks, but Israel first has to commit to all references in the Quartet statement, "especially concerning the borders of 1967 and stopping settlement activity," he said.

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Abed Rabbo also said the Palestinians will keep pursuing U.N. recognition. Currently, the 15-member U.N. Security Council is reviewing the issue. The U.S. has already said it would veto the request should the Palestinians muster the required nine votes.

Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki told reporters Thursday that the Palestinians have secured eight votes so far, and that they are lobbying for more support, including from Bosnia and Colombia.

Despite the certain U.S. veto, the Palestinians are pushing for a majority in the council, in part to show that their statehood bid has international support. Malki told reporters that eight council members — Russia, China, India, South Africa, Brazil, Lebanon, Nigeria and Gabon — are expected to vote for Palestinian membership.

He said Nigeria and Gabon were initially considered undecided, but that senior officials from both countries have assured him of their support. Several others listed by Malki, including China and South Africa, already publicly announced their support for the membership bid.

The Palestinians also retain the option of seeking recognition as a non-member observer state from the General Assembly.

Also Thursday, the Palestinian Economics Ministry said that without Israel's occupation, the Palestinian economy would be almost double in size and entirely independent of foreign aid.

The ministry said losses due to Israeli restrictions amount to nearly $7 billion a year, or 85 percent of the Palestinian nominal gross domestic product. This includes nearly $2 billion in losses due to Israel's blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza, water use restrictions and restrictions on natural resources respectively, said Economics Minister Hassan Abu Libdeh.

Without the occupation, the Palestinian Authority could end its dependence on foreign aid, the minister said. Abbas' Palestinian Authority receives hundreds of millions of dollars of aid every year.

The International Monetary Fund concluded in a separate report this year that the Palestinian per capita GDP would have been 88 percent higher if growth had continued at about the same rate as during the years 1968-1987 when borders with Israel were more open.

[samXXkiley]

coucou,
""""After the Palestinians' U.N. bid, the Quartet of Mideast mediators the U.S., the U.N., the European Union and Russia called for the resumption of talks and a deal within a year.""""
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return to the talks, why?
to ridicule the Palestinians again
in short, to exert more pressure on the Palestinians and give in again and again to the whims of Israel,
it's sickening!
"au revoir"

[morris2196]

Anyone who thinks that Israel will halt the building of settlements is not thinking clearly and needs to stop smoking whatever it is they are smoking.

[MelbourneFL]

You can petition the US Government not to veto Palestine's request for statehood on website: http://wh.gov/g9R

[askagain]

This could have been avoided if the Palestinianians had negotiated in good faith in past years. To keep ckaiming that they want peace but to reject peace year after year is getting old.

[JehudahBenIsrael]

This is of course the latest rejection for an accommodation of peaceful coexistence with an independent Jewish nation-state, on any parcel of land between the River and the Sea. Preceded it are:

1917, Balfour Declaration

1920, San Remo Conference

1922, League of Nations decisions

1937, Peel Commission proposal

1947, United Nations resolution

1948, Israel's offer

1967, Israel's offer

1978, Begin/Saadat offer

2000, Barak/Clinton offer

2005, Sharon's gesture

2008, Olmert/Bush offer

and now Netanjahu's offer for direct talks without preconditions.

Even when they could, between the years 1948 and 1967, when the now disputed territories were totally "cleansed" of their former Jewish residents and ruled by the Muslim-Arabs, no Palestinian Arab state was set up there and Jerusalem was not proclaimed its capital city. But, three full years before Israel captured these territories in the defensive Six-Day War, 1967, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), now headed by Mr. Mahmoud Abbas, was set up. Which part of "Palestine" was this organization to "liberate" in 1964...?? The answer is found of course in the PLO's Charter that all must read...!!

P.S. Please note the pattern of nearly 100 years of rejections and the reason for it!!

[slappy-mcjohnson]

Screw Israel and their backhanded dealings which just bring more bad light on the US.