CBS/AP/ August 15, 2011, 8:06 AM

Indiana State Fair: We thought we had more time

Updated at 2:18 p.m. ET

Organizers for the Indiana State Fair thought that they had more time to consider evacuating a grandstand before wind gusts between 60 and 70 mph toppled the stage, killing five people Saturday, a fair spokesman said on CBS' "The Early Show" Monday.

"The information we had, with our meteorologist on site with constant contact with the National Weather Service, was that we had about 30 more minutes before any kind of rain or storm blew in," fair spokesman Andy Klotz told "Early Show" co-anchor Chris Wragge.

An estimated 12,000 people were waiting to see the band Sugarland on Saturday night. The stage collapse sent about four dozen people, some critically injured, to hospitals.

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Klotz said fair staff made an announcement to concert-goers advising but not requiring them to seek shelter because foul weather was coming. Four minutes later, when organizers decided to evacuate the grandstand, the gusts forced the stage to collapse, Klotz said.

(At left, watch Klotz's interview)

"We were in constant contact with the National Weather Service, and we were constantly trying to figure out what was coming, when it was coming and get people to a position of safety as best we could with the information that we had," Klotz told Wragge.

But another meteorologist said forecasting the storm wasn't difficult, CBS News correspondent Cynthia Bowers reports.

"It was very predictable," AccuWeather meteorologist Mike Smith told CBS News. "We put out a warning for 60 mile-an-hour winds a full half-hour before the stage collapse occurred."

Concert-goers and other witnesses told The Associated Press that an announcer warned them of impending bad weather but gave conflicting accounts of whether emergency sirens at the fair sounded. Some fair workers said they never heard any warnings.

"It's pathetic. It makes me mad," said groundskeeper Roger Smith. "Those lives could have been saved yesterday."

Klotz said the damage was so sudden and isolated that he wasn't sure sirens would have done any good.

In an interview with Wragge, Gov. Mitch Daniels defended the organizers' actions, saying that the storm following the powerful gusts didn't hit the fairgrounds until 15 minutes after the stage collapsed.

(At left, watch the governor's interview)

"Nothing comes ahead of safety with the people who put this event together," Daniels told Wragge. "They think about it all the time. They were that night. They had multiple sources of counsel, including the weather service."

The fair was reopening Monday but paused first to honor and remember the five people killed in the accident. Daniels and others attended the memorial Monday morning at the state fairgrounds. The fair was to reopen afterward.

Four of the victims died at the scene: Alina Bigjohny, 23, of Fort Wayne; Christina Santiago, 29, of Chicago; Tammy Vandam, 42, of Wanatah; and 49-year-old Glenn Goodrich of Indianapolis. Nathan Byrd, a 51-year-old stagehand from Indianapolis who was atop the rigging when it fell, died overnight.

Santiago managed programming for the Lesbian Community Care Project at Howard Brown Health Center in Chicago and was named to the Windy City Times' "30 Under 30" list in 2007.

Jamal M. Edwards, the center's president and CEO, said she was one of the organization's "brightest stars" and worked to improve the lives of women, especially those who were lesbian, bisexual and transgender. Santiago attended the concert with her partner, Alisha Brennon, who was severely injured, Edwards said.

Bigjohny had been recently hired to teach seventh grade in Muncie, The Journal Gazette of Fort Wayne reported.

"She was funny, spontaneous. She was just amazing," said Danielle Stoy, who attended Manchester College with Bigjohny. She said Bigjohny attended the concert with another friend, Jennifer Haskell, who also was critically injured.

The fair canceled all activities Sunday as officials began the long process of sorting out what happened and fielded difficult questions about whether the tragedy could have been prevented.

Daniels called the accident an "unthinkable tragedy" and said the wind burst was a "fluke" that no one could have foreseen. Dan McCarthy, chief meteorologist for the National Weather Service in Indiana, said the gust was far stronger than those in other areas of the fairgrounds.

The seemingly capricious nature of the gust was evident Sunday at the fair, where crews placed a blue drape around the grandstand to block the view of the wreckage. A striped tent near the grandstand appeared unscathed, as did an aluminum trailer about 50 yards across from the grandstand. The Ferris wheel on the midway also escaped damage.

First Sgt. Dave Bursten of the Indiana State Police said the lack of damage to structures on the fair's midway or elsewhere supported the weather service's belief that an isolated, significant wind gust caused the rigging to topple.

"All of us know without exception in Indiana the weather can change from one report to another report, and that was the case here," he said.

The stage toppled at 8:49 p.m. Saturday. A timeline released by Indiana State Police shows that fair staff contacted the weather service four times between 5:30 and 8 p.m. At 8 p.m., the weather service said a storm with hail and 40 mph winds was expected to hit the fairgrounds at 9:15 p.m.


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Jaylah54 says:
All anybody really needs to do is to look at the video and the stills of this. Just LOOK at that sky! It's pitch black with lightning strikes running through it.

Where is the STUPIDEST place to be in a lightning storm? Standing under, or next to, a tall metal structure.

Unless your last name is Ovis, and you never do anything until or unless somebody leads you by the hand, why would anybody just stand there in weather like that?

People living in the midwest (as I do) know that tornados frequently spawn out of storms like that. And tornadoes aren't like hurricaines. Tornadoes don't give a lot of warning. You can be in the middle of, or even near, a sever storm like that and have a tornado drop down right on top of you.

I don't know who I'm more disgusted with: the fair officials that said nothing, or the concert goers that just stood there.

I'm reminded of that old expression my grandmother and mother used to use about people being too dumb to come in out of the rain.
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Truth_Tracker says:
These sociopathic blithering idiot bureaucrats need to be sued into oblivion for this inexcusable exercise of brain-dead stupidity. They're in the violent storm \ Tornado Alley capitol of the U.S. and they know that. Any idiot with a post-kindergarten degree knows that the most likely potential for violent winds always - repeat, ALWAYS comes on the 'Front End' of an approaching storm, often long before the actual storm cell arrives. WHY? Because the front end is where the tremendous transitional air turbulence is. It's the boundary between two often radically different air temperature masses violently collide. It's a no-brainer - at least for people who give a damn.
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NinthSt78 says:
Those aerodynamic concert stages like the one in Chicago are best.
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Jaylah54 says:
I'm very sorry for the loss of life and injuries that this caused, but....

I've never been to a headliner concert that lasted less than 30 minutes in my life. And if the NWS was predicting a severe storm 30 minutes away, and I had seen the size of the crowd, I would have assumed it was going to take me more than 30 seconds to get to safety and would have been boogying my butt out of there THEN.

I might not have made it back to my car before the wind gust came, but I sure as hell wouldn't have been standing under the stage.
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rf35 says:
I blame God for this. He should be held accountable for the deaths and injuries of those innocent American citizens!
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alwilde says:
While I can't say I am surprised, I am ashamed of all the heartless comments and people on here and many other websites that are providing this story. I am proud to say that I live in Indiana, 20 minutes south of where it occured. I am proud to say that I live in a state with so many compassionate people. To those who would have ran away, I am damn glad you don't live near me. To those who would have ran away leaving men, women, and little children trapped and bleeding- it doesn't get more selfish than that. And for anyone to point blame is useless. It always is. It happened. Maybe it could have been prevented, maybe it couldn't have. That's not the point. Have some compassion. The families and friends of those killed and wounded read this. They see your comments. Put yourself in their shoes. Most importantly though, send prayers, look beyond yourself. Pray for healing for Indy.
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gerryrigger says:
La la la la life goes on, so they say. Just a word to Sugarland, if they're still scheduled to perform: please don't sing your song "Stuck Like Glue". Under the circumstances, it would be in very bad taste (too soon)! Besides I can't stand that song!
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Jaylah54 replies:
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They were scheduled to perform at the Iowa State Fair the following night, but cancelled "because they couldn't get access to their equipment" buried under the collapse because it was still roped off for the investigation.
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mari1963 says:
What good is all this super duper weather equipment if it doesn't predict the weather in time to save people? It seems to me that weathermen and meterologists don't really know what they are doing. And 30 minutes seems like enough time to get the word out to people. Shame on the weather service! The sirens should have been blown off!
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Jaylah54 replies:
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Mari, in this part of the world, weather sirens are only set off in the event of a tornado.

This was not a tornado. It was an approaching severe thunderstorm. Which almost always has major wind gusts preceeding it. However, they are "straight line winds" not tornadoes.
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patocc123 says:
The people here who are trying to associate this with deregulation or the political parties sub divisions are idiots.
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patocc123 replies:
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Thank you for proving my point. If you truely belive what you typed then you are idiot or your a political hack and the ideas your expressing are those of your political masters. ie like a foxnews copy/paste idiot, but at least you should know better.
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ShellETurtle says:
Reading everyone's perspective's on the situation and how it was handled and so on is interesting. I witnessed the prop fall on top of all those people. I was in the seats next to the pit only 4 rows from where the corner of the prop landed. I listened when the announcer came out and told us there was a storm approaching and "if" it rained we were to go to certain buildings and then return once the storm had passed. It was down played and we were never told to evacuate. When the announcement had ended the music came back on and we were under the impression that Sugarland was going to come out and sing. Just a few minutes after that statement people starting screaming in the grandstands. To the left of us was what looked like a huge sand storm and when it hit us I watched the prop fall like pixy sticks. The winds were so strong. It all happened so fast and there was no where to go.

Yes, things could have been dealt with differently had we been told to evacuate the moment the announcer came on stage. It wasn't handled that way unfortunately. So many people are so quick to point the finger in all directions. But, who do you point the finger at and say "it's their fault this happened?". It is very unfortunate that this event occured and I'm beyond words at the moment. My heart goes out to all those that are injured and to the families that lost their loved ones. I witnessed death, heroism and bravery all at one time. I will never get those images out of my head.

Never go a day without telling the people you care about that you love them. They could be gone in a matter of moments.
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erasmus111 replies:
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I wouldn't be needing someone to tell me to evacuate, when you have 60 to 70 mph winds, with all that equipment sitting there. I have a brain.
ShellETurtle replies:
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We did not know the severity of the storm. I have a brain as well.
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