CBS/AP/ April 14, 2011, 7:09 AM

Little time between call, fatal NY river plunge

Police believe Lashandra Armstrong of Orange County, N.Y. killed herself and three of her children by driving her minivan into the Hudson River Tuesday night.

Police believe Lashandra Armstrong of Orange County, N.Y. killed herself and three of her children by driving her minivan into the Hudson River Tuesday night. / Personal Photo

NEWBURGH, N.Y. -- Angela Gilliam called the police at 7:43 p.m. Tuesday. She was worried about her niece's well-being and said there was a domestic tussle going on at the younger woman's apartment in this hardscrabble city on New York's Hudson River.

Police headed to the apartment but by the time they got there, it was empty.

Seventeen minutes later, Gilliam's grand-nephew Lashaun Armstrong stood shivering and soaking wet in a firehouse down the street, struggling to get the words out: His mother, 25-year-old Lashanda Armstrong, had driven their minivan off a boat ramp and into the river, taking her three other children with her.

All of them died.

CBS New York reports Lashaun Armstrong managed to slip out of the van while the power windows were still functioning. He then swam back to the shore. Mavis Ryan, a passerby, found the soaking wet, shivering boy and took him to firefighters, authorities said.

Photos: Tragedy on the Hudson

Police were still working Wednesday night to piece together the events that led to Tuesday's tragic plunge that killed Armstrong and three children: Landon Pierre, 5, Lance Pierre, 2, and 11-month-old Laianna Pierre.

Earlier Tuesday, Armstrong appeared stressed when she picked up the children at the Young and Unique Christian Development Child Care, said Shaniesha Strange, supervisor in the infant room.

"The only thing she'd say was that she was so alone," Strange said Wednesday. "She's a single parent. She takes great care of her kids, goes to school and works. She really needed a helping hand."

Police question the man they identified as the father of the three dead children, Jean Pierre, but did not give details. He apparently didn't live with the mother and children and could not immediately be located for comment.

Hetty Minatee, another teacher at the day care center, said Armstrong had enrolled the four children there in September. At first Jean Pierre would come in with Armstrong and sometimes would pick up the kids.

"A couple weeks ago, she came in a little upset," Minatee said. "She said, 'Miss Minatee, I don't want the father to pick the kids up or have any contact with them.' She said she was trying to get a court order so he could never see the kids again."

From Armstrong's apartment, she would have taken a right turn onto Washington Street, site of George Washington's headquarters during the American Revolution, and driven straight toward the river, downhill all the way. She'd be familiar with the boat launch, neighbors said. She watched fireworks over the river from the corner near her house. A half-mile drive would have gotten her there. A hard left then a quick right turn would take the van into the water.

Fire Chief Michael Vatter said the vehicle went under in the 45-degree water within two minutes.

A passer-by found a soaked and cold Lashaun Armstrong along the shore and took him to a firehouse for help.

"He got out of the car, got up onto the boat ramp, turned around and it was gone," Vatter said.

Divers searched for about an hour before finding the minivan submerged in 10 feet of water about 25 yards from the shore. They used a tow truck to pull it up the ramp.

Lashaun is staying with Gilliam and "doing fine," she said.

"She was a good mother. She was going through some stuff," Gilliam said of her niece. "Nobody knows what my niece went through." She would not elaborate.

Police said there was no history of domestic violence at the address.

Neighbors in the city of about 30,000 said the children seemed energetic and happy and would play on the block and ride bikes.

"She was a very good mom," said Tina Claybourne. "She took care of her kids. She always was with her kids."

Just last month, she donated money to help the family of a baby killed in a fire across the street from Armstrong's apartment. The loss of four children in such a short time hit the community hard.

Mourners created a memorial of stuffed animals and flowers at the boat ramp.

The deaths were reminiscent of the case of Susan Smith, the South Carolina woman who drowned her two young sons in 1994 by sending her car into a pond. She initially claimed she had been carjacked. She is serving a life sentence.

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formrusmcsgt says:
by Warmonger101 April 14, 2011 9:05 AM EDT
This is three less black men who will end up in the Judicial system.
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I sincerely pity you.
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xraeddie says:
Oh My God...I can't believe this has happened again to our children.Yes..I am white..and yes those 3 black kids were my children too.As a human I consider all to be my brothers and sisters,sons and daughter and moms and dads.The suffering of the mom and 3 dead kids is over...but my heart is broken and crying over the thought that this poor young boy will live with those memories.I take some solace in the fact that he heard his mom say she made a big mistake.He knows she tried to fix it but couldn't.I hope that carries him through.To his family...I beg of you to give him the peace and security he has always deserved. I don't know him or any of them...but I have much love for him and wish him a happy life.
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Warmonger101 says:
Had she had but just one child, with or without the father, the strain on her life may have been manageable. We are all responsible for our actions, however, it's the children that always seem to pay the price. Hormonal imbalances, are you kidding me? She maintained enough self control to navigate that vehicle into the river. Every thought in her mind was about herself and not the future of the children.
You make excuses for her, I'll sympathize for the children. They are the innocent, they didn't asked to be brought into this world. You say she snapped, and I agree, but to what extent is she responsible for the conditions that lead up to her decision to KILL her children. They paid the price for the decisions she made and the consequences she could not handle.
You call me a racist. If that is true, then I must hate my three children, grandchild as well as myself. Your assumption is wrong; I am of the Black race.
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Cas2dy replies:
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You don't know what her every thought was and you bviously have no tolerance for mental illness, which I do, having grown up with enough of it and seeing the varying degrees of treatment for it to recognize the signs. Mental illness is not something to take lightly, say, as you might a headache. The intricacies and insideousness of it are far too complicated for anyone to simply assume that eliminating teen pregnancy, bad relationships or multiple children will be the simplistic miracle answer. Sadly, I know of what I speak and have had to find it in me to forgive someone whith severe mental illness who should have been my protector as a child but who instead made me wish that I was dead. I do think that having a chemical imbalance can have everything to do with one's ability to steer a car straight into disaster. I am not making excuses for her. I am simply explaining that mental diseases are much more deeply rooted than you understand. If they were simple to understand we could avoid such tragedies as this. I don't believe I called you a racist; I objected to the implication that her status as a young, single, Black mother or that the absence of or presence of any Black men/fathers or the presence of decay in the inner cities are the only direct contributors to what happened here. Simply put, she had a new child, she was struggling to keep up with her obligations, her man acted stanker than stank and she lost it. We do not lose it in anger like that. This is something deeper. It spans every culture. Didn't you read about the rich woman who killed her autistic little boy in a fancy schmancy hotel room? What about the religeous nut who drwoned hers in the tub, one by one? Or the well known Susan Smith who just wanted to be with some guy? No, this isn't about race, and it's too complicated for the average, well adjusted person to get...and I don't presume that people are racist unless they make racist statements. From a mother of four, grandmother of five (White & Black), so I don't take sides because we're all on the same side.
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Cas2dy,
How do we know that "her man acted stanker than stank?" Because she told the daycare not to let him see his kids, because of the domestic dispute? In your 1st paragraph you state that we don't know her thoughts. Maybe she just had a mental illness and flipped out. It could be like the case of the woman in Ohio a few years back that cooked her baby in a microwave just to get back at the father. Could just be a vindictive person.
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msimamaji says:
While the GOP is going ballistic over taxing the rich, a women in New York killed herself and three of her four children. As a retired English teacher from an inner city high school, I can't help thinking of Beloved by Toni Morrison.

I must ask the questions that GOP ignores.

What pressures drove this woman to commit this desperate act? What sorts of social services were available? I'm talking about services like crisis intervention, family counseling, and mental health clinics. What economic pressures drove this woman to suicide? Perhaps she was getting laid off. Perhaps the school she attended raised tuition. Perhaps she was losing her food stamps or Medicaid. Might a combination of these economic problems driven her to suicide.

While the Republicans slash social services to the needy to provide tax cuts to the greedy, I can't help but wonder. How many other tragedies will occur?

The GOP, the party of No responsibility, obviously doesn't give a rat. As far as they are concerned if more desperate mothers kill themselves and their families, they can't give more tax cuts to the rich.
And imagine, these are the people who want to govern this country. Where are the churches? Why am I the only person asking these questions.
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shazbat34 replies:
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So this woman kills three of her children, and somehow it is the fault of someone else, or in this case a political party? Mindless drivel...
valeri1274 replies:
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Agree with louiville12... As a former teacher in inner city schools you should know of all the services that are provided to low income, which YOU are assuming, individuals. It is indeed a garbage post to tie this tragedy to a political party. Maybe the fact that the woman was 25 with 4 kids to care for was a bit much. Did that ever occur to you? She had her first child at 15 years old! She was figuratively drowning since 15 - no childhood to enjoy. She sort of just jumped right into motherhood without living her own life. Now that's the sad truth and no amount of government hand outs or support can alter that fact. Are we to reward every child who decides to have a child? At your age it's time to grow up.
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ursheetisshowing says:
Warmomger101 Susan Smith killed her 2 white children in the same manner. Angela Yates took her children to the family bathroom and drowned all five of her children. What is your point other than displaying the fact that you are a racist?
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Cas2dy says:
Warmonger; Your username says it all. This is about as sad as it gets. That young woman has suffered for a very long time. She was most likely suffering from post partum depression as well as dealing with a sneaky and unreliable man. She took great care of her children and even though the odds seemed to be stacked against her, she struggled on. No drugs, no sualor, no immoral behavior on her part. Like many poor young girls she started having children early; but she was working very hard to give them a stable life. When your mind is affected by the hormonal imbalances that can occur after having a baby, you don't even know you're mind is affected. You just think that you are coping the best way you can. To be treated as nothing by the man you trusted and believed would be there for you and the children is enough to send any woman over the edge, White, Black, Hispanic or whatever. She was young and the trouble that came to her claimed almost her entire family. This is not about Black women, Black fathers, Black men in general, the judicial system or any of that other crap you brought up that might apply in a different type of criminal case. This is about a woman who snapped, just like Susan Smith and countless other women who became overwhelmed by any number of things that eventually connect to her being unable connect to being herself or the mother she needed to be. If you cannot recognise yourself anymore for the good in you, if you cannot see past the moment of your deepest despair, if you don't have a happy thought in your head and you don't know that you are losing your grip, this can happen. So stop with the color/culture thing. it happens all over and that's what is so sad.
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Warmonger101 replies:
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Had she had but just one child, with or without the father, the strain on her life may have been manageable. We are all responsible for our actions, however, it's the children that always seem to pay the price. Hormonal imbalances, are you kidding me? She maintained enough self control to navigate that vehicle into the river. Every thought in her mind was about herself and not the future of the children.

You make excuses for her, I'll sympathize for the children. They are the innocent, they didn't asked to be brought into this world. You say she snapped, and I agree, but to what extent is she responsible for the conditions that lead up to her decision to KILL her children. They paid the price for the decisions she made and the consequences she could not handle.

You call me a racist. If that is true, then I must hate my three children, grandchild as well as myself. Your assumption is wrong; I am of the Black race.
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formrusmcsgt says:
"She was a very good mom," said Tina Claybourne.
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And a cold-hearted executioner as well.....
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Warmonger101 replies:
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This is three less black men who will end up in the Judicial system. No husband and an absolute guarantee they had two or more different fathers. The problem with Black men in America is black women having babies out of wedlock. 61 percent of Black women having babies are not married and a good percentage of them have babies by more than one man. No wonder Black men have such a hard time in this society. From birth, the very person who brought them into this world handicaps them by creating a crippled family structure. Blame the absent father(s) that's easy. Two, three or four men are to blame, but there is no one blames the action of the mother. Yet even when her final act of motherhood is to take the life from 3 of her four children, another Black women has the audacity to say "She was a very good mom". When will the Black community be honest with itself?
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then black men shouldn't make babies if they aren't going to be married to their wife when it happens! Then we wouldn't have single, black mothers out there on their own ! DUH ! The black community will never address it. Bill Cosby tried to, and the black community was furious with him. But the man spoke the truth !
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