CBS/AP/ February 15, 2011, 8:37 AM

Obama Budget Glass: Half-Empty or Half-Full?

WASHINGTON - President Obama's proposed $3.73 trillion budget for 2012 which was announced Monday makes several assumptions in its claim to reduce overall spending by about $1.1 trillion over the next decade, mostly from spending cuts.

Republicans immediately attacked the bill as insufficient in reining in spending.

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said that for the sake of the economy, employment, and the future, "It would be better doing nothing than if we were to actually pass this budget."

One of the big question marks raised by the budget proposal relates to future growth of the U.S. economy. The plan shows the overall economy - as measured by the gross domestic product - growing at significantly higher rates than private forecasts.

Stronger economic growth means more people working - and making more tax payments to the government, increasing revenue and thus lowering the deficit.

For 2012, the administration is forecasting that GDP will increase 3.6 percent and then climb at rates of 4.4 percent in 2013, 4.3 percent in 2014 and 3.8 percent in 2015.

CBS News business and economics correspondent Rebecca Jarvis called those assumptions "pretty aggressive. They're very optimistic about the state of our future, and in fact they're more optimistic about our future growth than even the Congressional Budget Office, which is a nonpartisan office which looks at how fast the economy is going to grow. This budget actually assumes that the economy will grow faster."

For 2012 the CBO and others foresee GDP rates as much as a full percentage point below the administration's forecasts, and the White House continues to be more optimistic about stronger GDP for the rest of the decade.

Conversely, the administration's GDP forecast for 2011 is less optimistic than the projection of many economists. The administration sees GDP growing 2.7 percent this year, while many private forecasters have GDP growth a full percentage point higher - at 3.7 percent this year.

Part of the reason for the discrepancy in 2011 calculations owes to the fact that the administration's forecast was done last fall before Congress passed the deal that continued the Bush-era tax cuts and provided for Social Security payroll tax reductions in 2011 and tax incentives for businesses, boosting economists' projections for growth this year.

"Near-term, the administration is being very cautious, but as you move out, they get quite optimistic," Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, told The Associated Press.

Jarvis also notes that the budget shows its optimism in other areas. "It assumes that unemployment will drop faster than many economists are expecting," she said. "And on top of that, it anticipates that inflation will stay constant below 2 percent.

"So those are aggressive projections for the future, and if those don't turn out to be the case, then we won't get the kind of savings that the plan anticipates," Jarvis said.

Private economists said they did not view the administration's economic forecast as totally unrealistic, like some used in previous administrations to mask a deteriorating deficit picture.

David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York said that, while "not being ridiculously rosy," the administration is "certainly on the upbeat side."

Jarvis also noted that about half of the cuts - about $650 billion - are still unspecified. "They're mystery cuts right now," Jarvis said. "So when you think about what the future of this plan will hold, there's probably going to be a lot of gamesmanship, and in that whole negotiating process that $650 billion number is really probably going to turn into a moving target."

And while the budget proposal assumes cuts, it also allows for increases in spending in several key areas, such as improving teacher quality.

What will actually get cut? And will Congress have the will to tackle the elephant in the room - entitlement programs?

Making any cuts in popular programs will be difficult: According to a new CBS News poll, 41 percent of Americans said they do not believe cuts in funding to programs that benefit them personally should be necessary to balance the budget.

Optimistic about not needing cuts? CBS News senior White House correspondent Bill Plante said that the same CBS News poll also shows that Americans are pessimistic about the economic recovery. Fifty-seven percent say they don't feel the recession is over - or that recovery is underway.

On CBS' "The Early Show" this morning, Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said the atmosphere in Washington was especially difficult for making bipartisan decisions about spending cuts.

"Mr. Daly, the new chief of staff at the White House, taunts the Republicans a week or so ago saying "Where is the beef? Where is your cuts?' Like, 'We don't want any cuts but as soon as you produce them, we're going to attack you,'" Session said on "The Early Show." "Harry Reid said even a $30 billion cut that the House was proposing at one point is unacceptable. So this is not a good situation. I'm really worried about it."

But Sessions was hopeful that progress could be made in the Senate. "Senator Conrad, chairman of the budget committee that I work with, I think he's open to some improvement in our situation, so maybe we can," Sessions told "Early Show" anchor Erica Hill. "We've got to try to work together."

But when asked he thinks Americans are prepared to lose benefits from entitlement programs and even retire later, Sessions said, "Well, they don't have to prepare to lose significant benefits. If we start now and we do the right thing today and work together, we can reform Social Security and Medicare - which is over half of our budget, correct - and make some real progress there to put them on a sustainable path.

"But I have to say we should not ignore the discretionary spending. That has surged 24% in the last two years under President Obama. It needs to come down. It can come down. Program after program have had unprecedented increases, and I'm not counting the stimulus that was on top of that.

"Just for an example, if you would take a one-time cut of a $100 billion on discretionary spending over ten years, that reduces the baseline - and it's a trillion dollar savings," Sessions said.

"There's much more that can be done than that, but this is the kind of trajectory we need to be on," he said.

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lami987 says:
There is just no way to reduce our deficit without eliminating tax loop holes and some tax increases. It is of course easier said than done. We have flocks and flocks of lobbyists who reward our politicians handsomely for doing what they want. The rich wants more tax loop holes and business wants more tax cuts. According to them that would create jobs, evidently jobs for those politicians. All tax cuts we made in the last few decades ended up in more deficit and debt. Reagan's and first Bush's tax cut quadrupled our debt in 12 years. Clinton raised tax for the rich and he was able to balanced the budget and accumulated surpluses during his second term. Unfortunately he was followed by Bush Jr. who again offered tax cuts and he made surplus disappeared and our debt doubled in 8 years. Republican's spending cuts may only be a fantasy. They haven't offer any plan yet. If they were serious enough they'd have came up with a budget plan to compete with Obama's headon from day one.
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James93x says:
This federal budget missed the point. Gasoline is over $3 a gallon. Corporations do not pay very much in business tax due to energy cost. Tax revenue is based on company profit. Congress must solve national debt to renew confidence, improve credit, accept modest corporate tax. Translated, this means to stop catering to special interests and promote international trade.
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meshine says:
What a shame that the cuts have to affect the poor and downtrodden in this country. We are on the verge of financial run but we continue to play the role of a sugar daddy to other countries. Why are we still giving other countries billion of our tax payers dollars when we get absolutely nothing in return? Why cant our Government immediately suspend all foreign aid until we can get our own house in better order?
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Mortarman429 replies:
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Suspend ALL aid...to everyone. Countries, coproations, individuals.

Giving aid is NOT the proper role of government.
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tsigili says:
Mostly full. He has cut little, and plans to spend a lot.
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RealiteBites says:
From the article:

CBS News business and economics correspondent Rebecca Jarvis called those assumptions "pretty aggressive. They're very optimistic about the state of our future, and in fact they're more optimistic about our future growth than even the Congressional Budget Office, which is a nonpartisan office which looks at how fast the economy is going to grow. This budget actually assumes that the economy will grow faster."

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I remember Rebecca from The Apprentice - I really appreciate when analysts give reasons behind their thinking ... it's a lot more rare than you would think it should be.

PS Doesn't this admnistration have a history of seeing what they want to see based on wishful thinking, instead of what's really there? For example, didn't they predict that unemployment would get down to 8% if their stimulus package passed?
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CarloCaraluzzo says:
CBS News business and economics correspondent Rebecca Jarvis is amazing. This single media correspondant (not economist), knows more about this than real economists. Wow. So if I want to be a economist I go to journelism school?
My second objection is not putting the "mistake" into context. It was the REPUBLICANS who held unemployment hostage until Obama agreed to extend tax cuts for the rich. Now, in a year or so of course all of this, especially approving those tax cuts, will be Obamas fault. This is a typical Republican tactic: Force the president to do something by withholding benifits for lower income families and then blame it on the president when it falls apart.
And when the MRDIA fails to tell the WHOLE story is smacks of collusion.
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wfw3536 says:
Obama budget is a joke as he talks about how much he is cutting. The true is he is cutting a 100 billion a year for the next 10 years. The only problem is next year's budget will have a 1.65 trillion dollar deficit and his administration is projecting one trillion dollar deficits for the next several years. The president is out of touch as most folks that have some common sense know you can't keep on spending money we do not have, as soon we will end up being a third world country where you need a bag full of money to buy a loaf of bread.
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olebasiclady says:
The answer to the economic situation is for the Federal Government to cut spending and let the rest take care of itself.

Cutting spending will put more money into taxpayers' pockets by not having to raise taxes.

There is NO need for more infrastructure at this point. It would be like adding a room on your house when you can't afford to re-roof the rest of it which needs a new roof badly. In other words, building new right now will just let the "old" get worse and worse because of no money for repairs.

Cut Government spending in every way possible. Do away with foreign aid. Cut Military spending. Do away with subsudies, and plant corn, food crops, cotton, so that food and clothing will be cheaper and some agricultural jobs will be added to the work force. Inforce caps on gas prices so that Americans won't be spending their extra dollars on gas to get to work. Put construction workers back to work repairing the broken rather than building new.

Put regulations on Wall Street that will assure people won't loose their money (although I think that America can take care of Wall Street by just NOT investing in anything that is not FICA guaranteed). No small investors to swindle = no Wall Street criminals!!

Let people take care of themselves! New rules for disability and welfare. Greater requirements to gain benefits would cut costs here.

Logic and good common sense would take care of our problems.
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moodysanaltyics says:
Budget cuts are always difficult and have varying impact on consumers and may have unintended housing market consequences. Additional information on Consumer Credit Analysis is available at:
http://www.moodysanalytics.com/Products-and-Solutions/Economic-Consumer-Credit-Analytics/Consumer-Credit-Analytics.aspx
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shbreeze says:
Social Security isn't, and was never designed to be an entitlement program. With all of the fraud, and Gov't giving it to people who never contributed, they're trying to turn it into an entitlement program!!! Worry about the true entitlement programs, and give the social security to the deserving,,,, not as an ENTITLEMENT program.
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Mortarman429 replies:
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What do you mean "give it to the deserving?"
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