December 9, 2010 1:19 PM

House Dems Reject Obama's Tax Cut Deal

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Updated at 11:55 a.m. Eastern.

The House Democratic Caucus has voted to reject President Barack Obama's tax deal with Republicans in its current form.

By voice vote, the rank and file Democrats passed a resolution Thursday that said the tax package should not come to the floor of the House for consideration. Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., introduced the resolution.

Said Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas: "If it's take it or leave it, we'll leave it."

Earlier in the day, it appeared congressional Democrats were slogging their way toward acceptance of President Obama's tax cut compromise, which would let rich and poor Americans keep Bush-era tax cuts that were scheduled to expire this month.

After Obama publicly defended the plan for a third day Wednesday, and Vice President Joe Biden met with Democratic lawmakers in the Capitol for a second day, several Democrats predicted the measure will pass, mainly because of extensive Republican support.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., predicted the tax cut compromise "will be passed by virtually all the Republicans and a minority of Democrats." He said he would vote against it.

Dems Still Resisting Obama Tax Deal
Obama Defends Tax Cut Deal with Republicans

Even among Democrats, "there's more support in the caucus than there appears," Rep. Gerald Connolly of Virginia told reporters after he and fellow Democrats met with Biden. "I think some people felt they had to vent."

Obama said more congressional Democrats would climb aboard as they studied details of the $900 billion year-end measure.

Vocal opposition continued Thursday morning, from Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., who told CBS' "The Early Show" on Thursday that many Democrats, "believe the president just didn't fight hard enough for a good deal."

Raising the direst alarm yet, his administration warned fellow Democrats that if they defeat the plan, they could jolt the nation back into recession.

Larry Summers, Obama's chief economic adviser, told reporters that if the measure isn't passed soon, it will "materially increase the risk the economy would stall out and we would have a double-dip" recession. That put the White House in the unusual position of warning its own party's lawmakers they could be to blame for calamitous consequences if they go against the president.

With many House and Senate Republicans signaling their approval of the tax cut plan, the White House's comments were aimed mainly at House Democrats who feel Obama went too far in yielding to Republicans' demands for continued income tax cuts and lower estate taxes for the wealthy.

Obama Tax Cut Plan Would Increase Taxes for the Poor

Obama says the compromise was necessary because Republicans were prepared to let everyone's taxes rise and to block the extension of unemployment benefits for jobless Americans if they didn't get much of what they wanted.

Economists say the recent recession officially ended in June 2009. But with unemployment at 9.8 percent, millions remain out of work or fearful of losing ground economically, and the notion of the nation falling back into a recession would strike many as chilling. It also could rattle markets and investors.

The deal Obama crafted with Senate Republican leaders would prevent the scheduled Dec. 31 expiration of all the Bush administration's tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003, even though Obama had often promised to end the cuts for the highest earners.

House Democrats, who will lose their majority in January, still hold a 255-179 edge in the current Congress. To pass a big bill with mostly Republican votes would mark a dramatic departure from recent battles, such as the health care overhaul, which was enacted with virtually no GOP support in either chamber.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other House Democratic leaders remained outwardly neutral to the tax cut compromise, criticizing some aspects but stopping short of urging or predicting its demise.

After the meeting with Biden, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said he still had reservations about the package, indicating he hopes changes are made before the Senate acts.

"We'll see what the Senate passes," Hoyer said.

Biden took a tough stance, warning that any changes might unravel the compromise plan, said several House Democrats who attended the meeting. "The vice president said, 'This is the deal, take it or leave it,"' said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif.

Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) said after the meeting that he believes there will be a number of Democrats who vote against the package, reports CBS News Senior Political Producer Jill Jackson. However, he conceded there may also be "a lot of people prepared to support this package - perhaps holding their nose, or someone else's nose."
The White House ballyhooed almost any elected Democrat who endorsed the tax plan, with no state or city too small to justify a press release. Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas and Charlotte, N.C., Mayor Anthony Foxx were among those praising the plan, the White House announced.

Obama: Not All Dems Feel "Betrayed" on Tax Cuts

But many House Democrats were unmoved. They particularly criticized Obama's proposed estate tax rates, which are far more generous than most Democrats had expected.

The concession seemed gratuitous, said Rep. David Price, D-N.C. For now, he said, "there's a mood to resist" the overall package.

Passage of Obama's plan seems more assured in the Senate, where numerous Democrats have agreed that the president had little choice in making the compromises with Republicans. Still, Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he and colleagues are considering possible changes, and action could come within days.

Changes designed to ease some Democrats' concerns might include a provision for bonds to help state and local governments pay for construction projects, tax breaks for wind power and clean-energy subsidies, lawmakers said.

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by mollybe December 10, 2010 2:49 PM EST
What a bunch of hypocrites....all the while there sending our stimulus money to their Marxist friends in China [Top Democratic fundraisers and lobbyists with links to the White House are behind a proposed wind farm in Texas that stands to get $450 million in stimulus money, even though a Chinese company would operate the farm and its turbines would be built in China.]
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by documemts December 10, 2010 2:26 PM EST
Attack!Attack!Attack!.
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by infantryman1968 December 10, 2010 1:29 PM EST
House Dems Reject Obama's Tax Cut Deal
Democratic Caucus Votes to Not Bring Package to the House Floor; "If It's Take It or Leave It, We'll Leave It," Rep. Says


LOL!

Obama will extend the Bush Tax Cuts and Cut the Federal Budget to save his Presidency with or without the Radical Left.
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by infantryman1968 December 10, 2010 1:27 PM EST
by starving1968-3 December 10, 2010 9:37 AM EST



Where's the Tea Party outrage over the massive addition to the national debt?

Or is it that a black man didn't create it, therefore it's okay?


LOL!

hungry1968,

I guess you havent heard about the Massive Budget Cuts for 2011 or 2012 yet?
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by MohatmaJeebus December 10, 2010 12:36 PM EST
That's awesome! One Trillion in bailouts for wall street AND tax cuts for the top 1 percent. We sure are serious about reducing our national debt. Not one of the useless parasites in Washington has any right to whine about this nation's economy.
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by doctor_know December 10, 2010 12:14 PM EST
Let the tax CUTS expire!
We have had these cuts in place for over 8 years, and where are we now? How well has trickle down worked for us?
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by Riverjump December 10, 2010 12:19 PM EST
Well, for one the rich are richer. And the unemployed are still unemployed. So, the richest got what they want?
by Mortarman429 December 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST
Silly.
by starving1968-3 December 10, 2010 9:37 AM EST
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703766704576009472395668718.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

"Tax provisions in the package will cost $801 billion over 10 years, according to Congress's bipartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. A 13-month extension of enhanced benefits for the long-term unemployed adds $57 billion. Because the bill identifies no offsetting cuts in federal spending, the entire amount, which is close to earlier estimates, will add to the deficit."





Where's the Tea Party outrage over the massive addition to the national debt?

Or is it that a black man didn't create it, therefore it's okay?
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by Empire--George-- December 10, 2010 10:31 AM EST
Are you referring to the debt created by compromising with the Democrats on the unemployment compensation ? as part of the agreement to not raise taxes on everyone...all income levels.

What other "massive addition" to the debt are you referring to ? because our expenses are remaing the same, are they not ?? so there is no "addition" to the debt, except the spending we have to pay for when all is said and done.

now's your turn, to call me names/un-intelligent.....because I actually know that a taxcut is not an expense to be paid....spending is what is paid.....and if you have a problem, that's where you need to look.
by Empire--George-- December 10, 2010 10:34 AM EST
It says it right there, "because the bill identifies no cuts in spending"....that's why there is massive debt associated with this bill.
by starving1968-3 December 10, 2010 8:34 AM EST
by RobAla December 9, 2010 9:38 PM EST
Since an increase in taxes will result in an increase in unemployment.....







Says who?
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by Riverjump December 10, 2010 8:50 AM EST
Um, the republicans?
by RobAla December 9, 2010 9:38 PM EST
Since an increase in taxes will result in an increase in unemployment, I want an extension of the current tax rates for 5 years. Business needs this length of time for long range economic planning, and few will hire without proper long range planning. The other major thing that is holding back hiring is the stupid health care bill, which places burdens on employers for each employee. Repeal the stinking bill.

$13.8 trillion in national debt proves we can not afford this current size and scope of federal government. We must evaluate each federal department and program, and phase out those which are not truly necessary. There is massive waste in this massive federal government, and we must reduce it to a manageable size and scope. No new federal programs without eliminating others to allow proper funding.

Extend unemployment, but pay for it by the elimination of other federal work. 20% of the budget goes to pay just the interest on the national debt. We must link spending to revenue.
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by nearl451 December 9, 2010 8:25 PM EST
Yeah a voice, however temporary, for fiscal repsonsibility,and morality....from Decomcrats, no less.

Make the Republicans pass what they can and hold them accountable for such, cause the Pres/REpub deal was "chicken crap", in Boehner's words.
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by nearl451 December 9, 2010 9:16 PM EST
The real chicken poop is all the cheering on one side or the other, but no realization of what kind of growth or budget cutting it takes to overcome a tax break. And this is just to maintain an existing revenue versus spending level.

After that realize that we have not been paying or bills since 2000....and we had a staggering debt then.

Cut all taxes for everyone by 50 percent and you have to double the tax basis to make up for the loss in revenue (that's right double the taxable income), or slash the budget to ribbons. THERE ARE 9+ YEARS OF WAR DEBT TO PAY FOR.

Small tax rate cuts are manageable short term. These sustained idiotic rates are not, regardless of economic climate.
by nearl451 December 9, 2010 9:20 PM EST
David Stockamn will tell you: trickle down dos not work. It is not sustainable.
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