CBS/AP/ October 22, 2010, 12:50 AM

Juan Williams: I Meant What I Said on O'Reilly

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Updated at 7:28 p.m. ET

Fired NPR news analyst Juan Williams said Thursday that he stands by the controversial comments about Muslims he made on a Fox News program and suggested that his dismissal was rushed and unfair.

"I'm not a bigot," Williams said. Then he talked about getting nervous on a plane when he sees people in Muslim dress. Fair game for one of his employers, Fox News Channel, but a firable offense for the other, NPR.

Muslim groups were outraged, saying that Williams' remarks Monday on Fox's "The O'Reilly Factor" endorsed the idea that all Muslims should be viewed with suspicion. But conservatives and even some liberals said NPR went too far in firing him for being honest about his feelings in an interview where he also said it is important to distinguish moderate Muslims from extremists.

Fox News Appearance that Got Juan Williams Fired

The opinions Williams expressed on Fox News over the years had already strained his relationship with NPR to the point that the public radio network asked him to stop using the NPR name when he appeared on Bill O'Reilly's show. NPR CEO Vivian Schiller said Thursday that Williams had veered from journalistic ethics several times before Monday's comments.

Controversial opinions should not come from NPR reporters or news analysts, Schiller said, adding that Williams was not a commentator or columnist for NPR.

Schiller said whatever feelings Williams has about Muslims should be between him and "his psychiatrist or his publicist - take your pick." In a post later on NPR's website, she apologized for making the "thoughtless" psychiatrist remark.

In a memo to her staff and affiliate stations, Schiller said the comments violated NPR's code of ethics, which says journalists should not participate in media "that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis."

Fox News, meanwhile, announced it had re-signed Williams to a multiyear deal at a reported $2 million that will give him an expanded role with the network - and that Williams will host O'Reilly's show on Friday. Chairman Roger Ailes described Williams as "a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints" and "an honest man whose freedom of speech is protected by Fox News on a daily basis."

Williams stood by his remarks Thursday. He told Fox News his statement was not bigoted, as he said NPR news executive Ellen Weiss implied Wednesday when she fired him by phone.

"I said, 'You mean I don't even get the chance to come in and we do this eyeball-to-eyeball, person-to-person, have a conversation? I've been there more than 10 years," Williams said. He said Weiss responded that "there's nothing you can say that would change my mind."

Williams made the comments at issue while discussing whether O'Reilly was wrong to have said "Muslims killed us on 9/11" during an appearance last week on ABC's "The View." O'Reilly's comment prompted co-hosts Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar to walk off the set, but Goldberg defended Williams on Thursday.

"The point he was trying to say is, 'I get nervous,' and that's OK," Goldberg said. "Firing him for saying that, I think, is kind of ridiculous."

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Republicans denounced NPR's decision. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told Fox News that Congress should investigate NPR for censorship and consider cutting off its public funding.

"Juan Williams: Going Rogue," former GOP vice presidental candidate Sarah Palin said Thursday in a Twitter message. "NPR should receive NO fed tax dollars if it operates as intolerant, private radio. Mr. President, what say you?"

Federal grants provide less than 2 percent - or $3.3 million - of NPR's $166 million annual budget. It is funded primarily by its affiliates, corporate sponsors and major donors.

O'Reilly had invited Williams on his show Monday to discuss his spat with hosts from "The View."

"Where am I going wrong here, Juan?" O'Reilly asked.

Williams told O'Reilly, "I think you're right," and said that "political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality."

"I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country," he said. "But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."



He went on to say that it is wrong to believe all Muslims are extremists, just as it would be wrong to think all Christians are extremists because of the actions of a few.

"We don't want, in America, people to have their rights violated, to be attacked because they hear rhetoric from Bill O'Reilly and they act crazy," Williams said.

Before Williams was fired, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said a news organization would not tolerate such commentary from a journalist about other racial, ethnic or religious minority groups. Early this month, CNN fired anchor Rick Sanchez for comments that included questioning whether Jews should be considered a minority.

"NPR should address the fact that one of its news analysts seems to believe that all airline passengers who are perceived to be Muslim can legitimately be viewed as security threats," CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said.

Society of Professional Journalists President Hagit Limor said Thursday that although the group supports Williams' right to free speech, "Based on our code of ethics, which advises avoiding stereotyping for any reason ... we understand the rationale that may be behind NPR's decision."

Williams was a longtime reporter, columnist and editorial writer at The Washington Post. He has written extensively on the civil rights movement, including a book on the African-American religious experience and a biography of Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, the first black justice.

Williams has been with Fox News since 1997. His appearances have been an issue for NPR in the past, including his remarks about Michelle Obama on a 2009 episode of "The O'Reilly Factor."

"Michelle Obama, you know, she's got this Stokely-Carmichael-in-a-designer-dress thing going. ... her instinct is to start with this 'Blame America,' you know, 'I'm the victim,"' Williams said, according to an account by NPR's Ombudsman Alicia Shepard. Carmichael was a civil rights activist who coined the phrase "black power."

Schiller said Williams' comments about Michelle Obama also violated the ethics code, but NPR executives wanted to give Williams a second chance.

One NPR employee, national political correspondent Mara Liasson, remains a Fox News contributor, and there was no sign that would change. "Mara's work on NPR and elsewhere is consistent with our standards and practices," NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher said.

Dori J. Maynard, the president of the Robert C. Maynard Institute for Journalism Education - a renowned institute that trains minority journalists - said NPR may have missed an opportunity by firing Williams. It could have broadcast a town hall-style program, or even a series, exploring why Williams made the remarks and feels the way he does.

"I hate what he said," Maynard said during the Associated Press Managing Editors conference in St. Petersburg, Fla. "But he didn't say something, unfortunately, that other people aren't thinking. So we have to talk about it. Not talking about things don't make them go away."
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footdr2 says:
After 911 I always look at the people getting on the airplane with me. I look for anyone that looks suspicious and "yes" I pay particular attention to those that appear to from the Middle East. Sorry, but I believe we have a responsibility to do so. We should all be aware of the individuals boarding the plane.

And also, I am worried when I see men from the middle east boarding my plane. I don't think there is anything wrong with that given past incidents.

Juan had a right to say how he felt, and described what a large majority of us who fly feel.

It is not our fault that the terrorists that have been involved in attacks and arrested for possible planned terrorists attacks on airplanes happen to be Muslims or from the Middle East. Its a fact.
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godi70 says:
Well, we cannot speak about the Muslim or about the Jews, or we will be destroyed. However, the republicans can lie against our president, and nobody stops or tries to stop what the other groups are doing, contraire.
Our president is insulted. The republicans teaching to the new generation about la failure of manners, moral and respect and everyone is blind about. Sometimes I cannot understand this system. I observe a lot of confusing among our folks.
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bankersvox says:
A duck does not become a chicken.
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goffredo29 says:
The original members of the Westside Barbell Club, before the Westside Barbell Club was the Westside Barbell Club, often worked out in the OSU Weightlifting Club?s facility. (Some of them were students.) When Woody Hayes saw that their guys were out lifting his guys on the weights, he closed the facility and made off with their weights and other equipment to the field house for his team. Qui potest capere capiat.
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fr33loader says:
If Islam was a race and not a faith of choice I'd buy into NPRs rationale. If an atheist commented on being uncomfortable in a room full of devout Christians whom he/she had never met before you might argue that the atheist was rushing to judgment based on mere perception or past experience(s), but our "Godless" subject is hardly guilty of "hate speech" or racism. Both political extremes (repub and demo) are testaments to the absurdity of their convictions. They rely on the strength of the Constitution to provide them open forum to espouse their radical ideas not embraced by the majority yet roundly criticize others who exercise the same right to disagree with them.
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gunther80 replies:
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Juan Williams is too smart to feel threatened by people in "Muslim Garb" because the terrorists try to blend in to the population. So that statement he made was bogus. NPR might have found out he was in negotiations with Fox to be hired, and did find an excuse to dump him first. Fox did the smart thing by making it into a big media event with an excuse to knock NPR.
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What NPR rationale? Why do they need to rationalize anything? Mr Williams could not keep his mouth shut even when told to so by the company who paid him (NPR). He got fired because he made remarks that did not fit the image of the company he was paid to represent. However, Juan Willams is perfect for FOX and will be happy there expressing himself as freely as he wants.
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slappy-mcfudpuck says:
by Empire--George-- Sorry, if you don't get it already, that those murders in America were not connected in any way, as muslim terrorists are, then no explaination would work....

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How about GUNS, Empire? Isn't that a connection? Oh, right, you don't like being wrong - forget I said anything.
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markenriquez71 says:
Maybe Juan Williams isn't afraid of Muslims at all, maybe he is just tired of the over sensitive Muslim community.
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slappy-mcfudpuck replies:
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I'll go by what he said.
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youbrew12 says:
Helen Thomas insults the state of Israel, later apologizes: fired, not rehired. Rick Sanchez insults Jews, by suggesting they aren't a minority when it comes to media control, later apologizes: fired, not rehired. Juan Williams insults, not a Muslim state, but individual Muslims for, of all things, LOOKING Muslim, later claims he meant what he said: fired, rehired with $2 million raise, and Conservatives everywhere talk about how his 'freedom of speech' was wrongly constrained. Only in Amerika.
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miami_don replies:
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I agree completely and will add that there isn't any issue here. NPR is funded by individual donors, corporate sponsors, and a small percentage of federal funds. It hired Mr. Williams as a journalist not as a commentator or pundit. Yet, Mr. Williams was never able to satisfy his own personal needs to be a commentator. There were no losers here. He is not a journalist, as proven by his personal compulsion to state his feelings on an issue, and he does not belong at NPR. However, his self righteous personality and need for personal attention fit like a glove at FOX. He can now be the commentator he has always visualized himself as and which, is exactly why your remarks were not only truthful and direct, but also very pragmatic.
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AnotherOracle says:
Nixon: "I AM NOT A CROOK!"
G.H.W. Bush: "NO NEW TAXES!"
Larry Craig: "I DON'T DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS!"
O'Donnell: "I'M NOT A WITCH!"

Williams: "I'M NOT A BIGOT!"............

There seems to be a serious pattern of denial going on here...
Someone should ask Williams what he thinks of some people feeling a bit nervous in a convenience store when a group of young black men walk in... Frankly I wonder how someone tells if someone is a Muslim by looking at them, other than clothing that a few might wear. I doubt anyone planning to do something on the plane would wear anything to stand out, more likely, they'd try to blend in. And really, any religion (ANYTHING really) taken to extreme tends to turn bad, moderation works for anything.
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slappy-mcfudpuck says:
by Empire--George-- Your whole motive is to somehow excuse us from being suspicious of muslims especially radical muslims, when they have been proven to be an enemy of America......by you suggesting we should be equally afraid of Americans, because there were 15k murders in our country....this is extremely psychotic for you to even think like this.........FT. Hood, look what happened when they took YOUR politically correct approach to dealing with muslims.....people died.


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All muslims, "plus the radicals"??? WOW - that's over the top, even for a paranoid loon such as yourself - sure, just put all American muslims in concentration camps like we did the Japanese! You should, statistically, be 50 times more afraid of your fellow Americans than of Muslims. You can't argue the math, if you have a brain and can understand the point. I don't support ANY murderer. So - what is it you're endorsing OTHER THAN "innocent until proven guilty"?? (of course, you always run away from this question...)
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