October 1, 2010 11:44 AM

Pakistan Blocks NATO Supplies to Afghanistan

Updated at 5:45 a.m. Eastern.

The Pakistani government ordered security forces to block oil tankers and trucks carrying NATO supplies into Afghanistan at a crucial border crossing Thursday, officials tell CBS News.

All NATO traffic was halted at the Torkham border checkpoint after threats by Pakistani officials to stop providing protection to NATO convoys if the military alliance's choppers hit Pakistani targets again.

Earlier Thursday, Pakistani officials alleged a NATO airstrike hit a border post, killing three Pakistani troops.

"This is the second such incursion of this kind in less than a week. It marks a serious violation of a red line already put in place by Pakistan. We cannot tolerate this kind of behavior," a Foreign Ministry official in Islamabad told CBS News' Farhan Bokhari.

A Pakistani security official based in the northern city of Peshawar told Bokhari that verbal orders had been passed down to authorities at the Torkham crossing to halt traffic.

The official said NATO supply vehicles were being stopped due to "rapidly growing insecurity, which makes it unsafe for us to let the trucks drive on."

"But we all know the reality," the official added.

By midmorning, a line of around 100 NATO vehicles was waiting to cross the border into Afghanistan, officials said.

"We will have to see whether we are allies or enemies," Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik said of the border incident, without mentioning the blockade.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information to the media.

Western military officials in Afghanistan would not comment on the Torkham closure when asked Thursday by CBS News, nor they would give any statistics on the supply route. However, an Afghan Army officer who works closely with NATO forces tells CBS News' Fazul Rahim that at least 70 percent of supplies for U.S. troops and their allies come through Pakistan, and more than half of that amount passes through the Torkham crossing.

A NATO official in Afghanistan confirmed there was an attack in the border area close to the Upper Orakzai region on Thursday, but gave no further details saying the incident was being investigated. He and the Pakistani security officers declined to give their names, citing the sensitivity of the alleged helicopter attack.

The attack was bound to worsen ties between Pakistan and NATO-led forces in Afghanistan at a crucial time in the 9-year war. The supply routes from Pakistan are vital for U.S. and NATO forces operating in Afghanistan, and convoys are often attacked by militants as the cross the border.

Bokhari points out that the orders to halt traffic are still just "verbal," but if Pakistan's government decides to officially halt the flow of supplies into Afghanistan, it would represent a massive logistical challenge for U.S. and NATO commanders, and an equally large diplomatic challenge for Western leaders dealing with an increasingly frustrated Pakistani government.

A European NATO official in Islamabad told Bokhari Thursday that tensions between Pakistan, the U.S. and other NATO nations seem to be rising rapidly.

"For the Western world, Pakistan seems to have become a rapidly growing staging point for militants who attack our troops in Afghanistan. We say Pakistan could do more (to restrain the militants), but hasn't taken adequate steps," said the NATO official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity.

Ahead of the closure, CIA Director Leon Panetta arrived in Islamabad on Wednesday for a two-day visit to meet with key Pakistani leaders.

Pakistan's state-owned television network PTV showed Panetta meeting Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani and other senior officials, including the head of the Pakistan's main intelligence agency, the ISI. PTV's report did not discuss the subject matter of the officials' conversations.

Panetta's visit comes after a record rise in the number of U.S. drone missile strikes on Pakistani soil -- largely believed to be the work of his agency. In September alone, at least 21 strikes have targeted suspected al Qaeda or Taliban sites in the country's lawless border region.

Pakistan Missile Strikes Paying Off?

The DAWN newspaper reported that Panetta was seeking a "clear timetable" from Pakistan to launch a new military operation in the North Waziristan region, a volatile area along the Afghan border. The area has long been eyed by U.S. officials as a refuge for militants who routinely attack Western troops in Afghanistan.

Western intelligence officials, all speaking on condition of anonymity, suggested Thursday that some of the recent missile strikes had specifically targeted militant leaders plotting a commando-style siege on major European cities.

Officials said Wednesday the threat was "still active," with some unnamed law enforcement agents even telling CNN that Osama bin Laden himself had signed off on the plans, which allegedly involved teams of well-armed militants simultaneously attacking sites in London, France and Germany.

However, not one of those European governments raised the terror threat level in their countries over the alleged plot, and the officials qualified their warnings by saying there had been no "imminent threat". The posturing led many experts and analysts - including a CBS News source in London with direct access to senior law enforcement agents, to speculate that the news of the plot was little more than a fabrication to justify the fierce bombing in Pakistan.

Beware Governments Trumpeting Terror Threats

Relations have been tense since NATO helicopters last weekend opened fire on targets on the Pakistani side of the border, killing several alleged insurgents. Those incidents were protested by Pakistan's government.

Pakistani officials differed on the exact location of the incident, saying it either took place in Upper Kurram or Upper Orakzai. The remote districts neighbor each other and there is no marked border between the two.

The dead men were from a paramilitary force tasked with safeguarding the border, they said. Their bodies had been taken to the region's largest town of Parachinar, said one of them.

Pakistan has a complicated alliance with the United States and NATO that is often subject to tensions.

Pakistan has to balance its support for Western forces in Afghanistan with the intense anti-U.S. feelings of much of its population. Opinion polls show many people regard the United States as an enemy, and conspiracy theories stating U.S. troops are poised to attack Pakistan and take over its nuclear weapons are common.

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by carlos4731 September 30, 2010 6:16 PM EDT
The war in Afghanistan is nearly nine years old, the longest in American history. After the U.S. quickly toppled the Taliban regime in October 2001, the Taliban, by all accounts, came back stronger and harsher enough to control now at least 30 percent of the country. During this time, U.S. casualties, armaments and expenditures are at record levels. America's overseas wars have different outcomes when they have no constitutional authority, no war tax, no draft, no regular on the ground press coverage, no Congressional oversight, no spending accountability and, importantly, no affirmative consent of the governed who are, apart from the military families, hardly noticing.This is an asymmetrical, multi-matrix war. It is a war defined by complex intrigue, shifting alliances, mutating motivations, chronic bribery, remotely-generated civilian deaths, insuperable barriers of language and ethnic and subtribal conflicts. It is fought by warlords, militias, criminal gangs, and special forces discretionary death squads.

Millions of civilians are impoverished, terrified and live with violent disruptions. There is no central government to speak of. The White House uses illusions of strategies and tactics to bid for time. In Afghanistan, the historic graveyard of invaders, hope springs infernal. Neatly dressed Generals who probably would never have gotten into this mess if they, not the civilian neocon, draft dodgers in the Bush regime, had made the call regularly trudge up to Congress to testify. There they caveat their status reports, keeping expectations alive, while cowardly politicians praise their bravery. General David Petraeus could receive the Academy Award in Hollywood next year, as long as he doesn't say what he really thinks, obedient soldier that he is. Listen to General Stanley A. McChrystal, not known for his squeamishness. Speaking of civilian deaths and injured at military checkpoints, he said: We have shot an amazing number of people,

but to my knowledge, none have ever proven to be a threat.??? On the ground are 100,000 U.S. soldiers with another 100,000 corporate contractors. The human and economic costs are huge. According to the CIA, James Jones???Obama???s national security adviser???and other officials, there are only 50 to 100 Al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan and 300 to 400 members of the group in Pakistan. The rest have scattered to other nations or just melded back into the population. Affiliates of Al Qaeda have emerged in the southern Arabian peninsula, Somalia, North Africa, Indonesia and other locales. There is something awry about this asymmetry. The Taliban number no more the 30,000 irregular fighters of decidedly mixed motivations entirely focused over there, not toward the U.S. mainland. President Obama describes the Taliban as ???a blend of hard-core ideologues, tribal leaders, kids that basically sign up because it???s the best job available to them.

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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 1, 2010 2:05 AM EDT
Shazmi (Mr. Taliban), read the damn post and stop using words like conjecture if you don't even understand them.
by LibertarianOH September 30, 2010 3:38 PM EDT
We put up with Karzi and his corrupt double-talking minions out of fear that Pakistan has nukes and we wouldn't want them falling into the hands of terrorists. When was the last time the IAEA inspected these sites and deemed them even viable and/or functional after all these years? Oh? that?s right? the last time they tried, Pakistan refused to allow them access and nothing was ever done about it. Knowing their status would be good to know, but I wouldn?t hold my breath on that one any time soon. I doubt they are even operational after the many years of little to no maintenance and no spare parts.
In either event, all throughout the middle east, these tribal groups and powers have been fighting and killing each other for thousands of years, including Pakistanis.... are we really so naive to believe they are a friend and ally just because we propped up their strongest tribal leader (who disses us every chance he gets) and voila... we're friends and allies??? I think not!
No one with even a modicum of intelligence and reason believes for one minute that Pakistani troops on the border just happened to be wearing the same garb as a Taliban were accidentally hit by friendly fire. They wouldn't have taken fire if they hadn't been in the wrong place doing the wrong thing and got caught this time red-handed siding with the Taliban that were being chased by NATO forces across the border from Afghanistan. They were not there guarding the same convoys they are now not allowing to leave with 80% non-war-making supplies to our troops in theater! It's absolutely ludicrous to think we are making progress.
It's really time we got serious, get the politicians out of the war-making business and let the Military finally get the job done in BOTH Afghanistan and Pakistan NOW... without their hands tied behind their backs.
If that's not going to happen, we need to cut off every single penny of aid to this worthless cesspool piece of sand permanently, pull every American citizen, contractors, educators, aid providers and soldiers out, remove every single asset and piece of equipment bolted down or not and burn the empty buildings we no longer occupy down to the ground.
Leave them to their own. If the Taliban want them... let them or the Indians have at them.
If they threaten to use their nukes... blow them to hell! Make no mistake... we know where all the nukes are and have for years. Pakistan has already cut deals with Japan and The Soviet Union for production of their mineral mines, so they can, and should, be able to operate on their own.
As far as Afghanistan... give them 30 days to get their house in order and citizens to safety, then level that place once and for all!
Finally, we have to leave Iraq in the exact same way as Pakistan. Iraq has massive oil reserves we have never touched which they sell all over the world every day and they have hundreds of millions of $$$ in profit hidden by their worthless government too! They can rebuild on their own or continue their infighting. Either way... Adios!!
It's time to stop playing world Daddy and Policeman to the entire middle east. Bring the boys and girls and all the toys home and put our own house back in order once and for all.
That also includes expelling all Non-Citizen Muslims and closing the borders. Pay our bills off, balance our budgets, serve our own citizens and to Hell with all these ***********... good riddance to bad and dangerous rubbish.
Let them all pay Allah a visit at their earliest convenience all on their very own.
It's time for this country to act like the great Super Power we have been and will be again. We will never bow to any Muslim Rag Head again. Let them hate us all they want... just stop paying them for it!

TCG-L
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by Barenziah58 September 30, 2010 9:57 PM EDT
We arenot the superpower anymore. I wrote than article on the Battle of Mu'ta in 629 ACE between 3000 muslim with no armor and light weapons only meet than Roman Empire army of 200,000 with heavy armour and heavy weapons. This took place in the Prophet live time. After the three leaders appoint by the Prophet live as martyrs Khalid Al-Waleed took command and use good strategy lead the muslim army in than orderly organized withdraal. The Roman army following fear they where being drawning into trap retreat too. The muslim lost 500 men killed the Roman Empire lost where never report but must have being heavy that they pull out of the area of Syria than never threaten the muslim again expect in the last year they march threaten on the board again then the muslim sent than 15000 men muslim army and the Roman troop reteat without than fight. I figue the Roman lost between 20,000 to 60,000 men killed. You most likely never hear of this battle one of the most important battle that change history. The muslim where not afraid to die in battle.
by LibertarianOH September 30, 2010 9:58 PM EDT
code_name_nina...
Not only am I an American... I'm one pissed-off American with rag-heads like you spewing your vile all over the internet!

Take your Koran and shove it where you play with yourself... fool!
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by westerly1 September 30, 2010 3:32 PM EDT
We should all be in the streets protesting Pakistan actions with chanting & Pakistan flag burning. Pakistan is a haven for people who want to attack us. They are letting massive numbers of Taliban cross the border in Afghanistan to fight us then return into a sanctuary.
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by run2jazz2 September 30, 2010 3:28 PM EDT
When the Taliban takes control of Afghanistan and starts beheading those who opposed to them don't cry to the US to help. When they enter Pakistan and the country becomes under Taliban rule, this is the time for the world to realize that they are far gone and put them out out of the world's misery.

Pakistan is a nuclear state and with this level of instability the world needs to realize that there is no sensible authority there. You cannot bargain with those who don't embrace life and the good for humanity. Evidently if they did they would be looking for ways to make peace their every effort rather than use religion as a justification to kill.
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by miami_don September 30, 2010 2:47 PM EDT
Perhaps this is the wake up call regarding our relationship with Pakistan. I am beginning to feel our involvement in Afghanistan could be better served by pulling up our pants and walking out of Pakistan. Hillary was right when she told them if they did not want our money we could take it back. The United States rushed to their aid following the recent floods and they respond by cutting off our overland fuel supplies to Afghanistan. (Coincidently while we are involved in likely the most important military operations we have conducted within Afghanistan.) Let them feed and arm themselves -- the Taliban would have never come to power in Afghanistan without Saudi Arabia funding and Pakistani military aid (via the U.S. arms and money pipeline). If they cannot defend their airspace from drones that may just be an Oh Well --- also, if we back away how long will it take for India to take revenge on them? I grow weary of supporting people who spit on me let the Saudi's feed them.
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by xila654 September 30, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
keep drinking your kool-aid and believing what the U.S government tells you
by tsigili September 30, 2010 2:28 PM EDT
Cut off financial aid.....now!
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by carlos4731 September 30, 2010 2:16 PM EDT
A generation of soldiers, now men and women, return from war, maimed, crushed and thrown away. 21st century America sees nothing, not the corruption, the narcotics, the lies, the evil in what has gone on so long in the name of the people of the United States. What is war? All war is class struggle. If we still had more communists around, they would remind us. Rich people start wars, poor people die and resources are stolen, banks emptied and all of it hidden behind flag waving and childish scare tactics. War is part of the grander plan. Is war politics or is it economics? At one point in the last 2 years, it was estimated there there were as few as 12 potential Al Qaeda suspects in Afghanistan. The person reading my water meter is a potential suspect.To a paranoid or law enforcement officer, anything that moves is a person of interest. A suspect is a person of interest who isn't sleeping or dead. Thousands of such suspects have been kidnapped and tortured by the United States over the last decade. The vast majority were released, some with millions in cash to shut them up, some died and a few were railroaded to criminal convictions based on false testimony and phony evidence. Who would want to protest against that? Would you want to die to defend that? Your children already have.

Gordon Duff
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by bajajohn1 September 30, 2010 1:58 PM EDT
We need to get the hades out of the area. Pakistan's politics are a hopeless case; we cannot buy their friendship but they Will take our money. Let them go at each other and just be prepared to take out their nukes if necessary.
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by xila654 September 30, 2010 2:24 PM EDT
Humans cannot be trusted
by Doctor_Bones September 30, 2010 1:54 PM EDT
NATO helicopter huh! It was probably an American Special Forces or CIA helicopter with with UN markings.
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by mjlewis6 September 30, 2010 1:33 PM EDT
The Bush Agenda of giving billions to Musharraf's Pakistan resulted in NO EFFECT on the Taliban safeholds in Waziristan and no capture of Osama bin Ladin or Dr. Wazahiri...Democracy there is not limited in Anti-American feelings...

We cannot change the landsscape of the warfare theater or the politics of the Pakistani government and military as China, by necessity, has been the technical assistance to Pakistan and to the former head Nuclear Scientists AG Khan, the nuclear proliferator of weapons technology throughout the Muslim world. See Newsweek article.

But if you want Pakistani assistance...neither ignoring the problem of the Taliban or buying off the government with "aid" works.

Pakistan has its own unique problem...and attacking Pakistan with an ally in China is not a solution, either.
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by xila654 September 30, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
Osama Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri have been working with CIA from the begining, it is all part of their plan to get rid of the U.S contitution and begin their new world order (a one world state), Democrates, republicans. Independents, the Judiciary, government agencies have all been compromised and are working towards this unattainable goal, it is going to be funny when it all blows up in their faces
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